I have been seeing more and more rumors of schools like Cincy, Memphis, Colorado State and Boise State to be potentially headed to the Big 12. If Cincy and Memphis go that could free up some space in the American.
A few on the ODU have mentioned that it ideally would be our goal to get into the American and I personally agree that it would likely be the best place for ODU for football and basketball. The American conference for bball is much better than CUSA.
However I think we could be shooting our self in the foot if we build the new stadium with to small of a capacity. The lowest stat I have seen was 28k-30k with most reports being 30k expandable to 45k.
I personally would like to see 33k-35k for the initial stadium. It would be large enough to not hold us back but not too big to where we could not consistently sell out football games.
Correct me if I am wrong but is there about 15k season ticket waiting list.
I don't think the demand is as large as what has been been leaked from ODU. Everyone that really wants to go to a game can get in.
I think if we get into the AAC, we are likely to see the larger number to the stadium's initial build. This actually couldn't come at a better time. Basketball team is back, before the football team may well take a step back, and in the midst of planning a stadium. The iron is hot, time to strike. We must pray that the Big XII does indeed strike this year.
Yeah, but if Cincy and Memphis go, there'll be a gigantic gap in the western division of the AAC. That means they might want to fill that with schools like USM, La Tech, UTEP, UTSA, and even WKU and MTSU could swing it in the western division. We should hope that the AAC loses Cincy and UCF so they can focus on having to fill up Eastern slots.
(12-09-2014 07:23 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but if Cincy and Memphis go, there'll be a gigantic gap in the western division of the AAC. That means they might want to fill that with schools like USM, La Tech, UTEP, UTSA, and even WKU and MTSU could swing it in the western division. We should hope that the AAC loses Cincy and UCF so they can focus on having to fill up Eastern slots.
There is already a huge gap in the East. ECU is near nobody.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall reading that we would have to fork over close to $3M if we left for another league. If this is correct, I doubt the TV/revenue package would make a move worth it.
(12-09-2014 07:23 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but if Cincy and Memphis go, there'll be a gigantic gap in the western division of the AAC. That means they might want to fill that with schools like USM, La Tech, UTEP, UTSA, and even WKU and MTSU could swing it in the western division. We should hope that the AAC loses Cincy and UCF so they can focus on having to fill up Eastern slots.
When Navy joins next season, it's going to the Western Division, apparently because they want to play the Texas schools regularly. So that means if it's Cincy and Memphis, it'll be one team from the Western and one from the Eastern leaving. So that keeps the door open for an eastern member.
(12-09-2014 08:54 PM)Quagmire Wrote: [ -> ]Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall reading that we would have to fork over close to $3M if we left for another league. If this is correct, I doubt the TV/revenue package would make a move worth it.
It would be worth it for long term security in the AAC.
Cusa is a conference on the brink of collapse with it's massive 2000+ mile footprint.
The AAC would be a much better fit for a large, urban, football/basketball mid major power like odu than cusa, a cusa/sunbelt hybrid or gasp, possibly being forced to retreat back to the caa (however unlikely that is).
Personally, I hope both cusa and the AAC collapse and a new, eastern based remnant conference can be formed.
Something like
Navy, ecu, odu, Marshall, mtsu, cincy, south Florida, Memphis, temple, uconn,
And maybe a few others.
Solid football conference, solid basketball schools, some old school rivals for us (ecu, south Florida) and some good potential new rivals (navy and Marshall).
Fairly sane geographical footprint and decent mix of schools with travel partners.
I think it makes a lot of sense, which is probably exactly why it won't ever happen.
(12-10-2014 01:08 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 08:54 PM)Quagmire Wrote: [ -> ]Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall reading that we would have to fork over close to $3M if we left for another league. If this is correct, I doubt the TV/revenue package would make a move worth it.
It would be worth it for long term security in the AAC.
Cusa is a conference on the brink of collapse with it's massive 2000+ mile footprint.
The AAC would be a much better fit for a large, urban, football/basketball mid major power like odu than cusa, a cusa/sunbelt hybrid or gasp, possibly being forced to retreat back to the caa (however unlikely that is).
Personally, I hope both cusa and the AAC collapse and a new, eastern based remnant conference can be formed.
Something like
Navy, ecu, odu, Marshall, mtsu, cincy, south Florida, Memphis, temple, uconn,
And maybe a few others.
Solid football conference, solid basketball schools, some old school rivals for us (ecu, south Florida) and some good potential new rivals (navy and Marshall).
Fairly sane geographical footprint and decent mix of schools with travel partners.
I think it makes a lot of sense, which is probably exactly why it won't ever happen.
Not that I wouldn't be happy about the aac but there footprint isn't much smaller. Texas to Connecticut and Florida form a really big triangle.
I think if Cinci and Memphis left the stability of the AAC would be in serious doubt. UCONN might decide to take it's BB to the Big East and go Indy for football until a P5 comes calling. They certainly wouldn't be happy about what is left in the AAC without those two as far as BB. At that point the western schools might start looking at the MWC and Navy could easily stay Indy. That leaves ECU and the FL schools. At any rate if Memphis and Cincy leave the AAC, it's not much better than the C-USA (other than UCONN) in BB and I believe the TV contract would automatically be renegotiated if certain teams leave making it probably near what we have now. All that said, if we can get into a conference with ECU, Navy and Temple we should. The FL schools and TX schools in the AAC are a step above those in the CUSA imo.
(12-10-2014 08:13 AM)benny_t Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2014 01:08 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2014 08:54 PM)Quagmire Wrote: [ -> ]Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall reading that we would have to fork over close to $3M if we left for another league. If this is correct, I doubt the TV/revenue package would make a move worth it.
It would be worth it for long term security in the AAC.
Cusa is a conference on the brink of collapse with it's massive 2000+ mile footprint.
The AAC would be a much better fit for a large, urban, football/basketball mid major power like odu than cusa, a cusa/sunbelt hybrid or gasp, possibly being forced to retreat back to the caa (however unlikely that is).
Personally, I hope both cusa and the AAC collapse and a new, eastern based remnant conference can be formed.
Something like
Navy, ecu, odu, Marshall, mtsu, cincy, south Florida, Memphis, temple, uconn,
And maybe a few others.
Solid football conference, solid basketball schools, some old school rivals for us (ecu, south Florida) and some good potential new rivals (navy and Marshall).
Fairly sane geographical footprint and decent mix of schools with travel partners.
I think it makes a lot of sense, which is probably exactly why it won't ever happen.
Not that I wouldn't be happy about the aac but there footprint isn't much smaller. Texas to Connecticut and Florida form a really big triangle.
True, but at least you aren't going on the road to Texas, Florida, and Connecticut to play 300+ RPI teams like Rice, UTSA, UNT, and F_U.
IF Uconn, Cincy and Memphis left the AAC, then its possible that Temple and ECU may be interested in coming back to CUSA, especially if Navy decided to stay independent. I still think it'd be better for everyone, especially at that point, if the AAC became the east conference we all want, and CUSA became the Texas/Alabama gulf region conference. It would all make sense except for who keeps which Fla schools. UCF and USF are definitely better options than F_Us. I'd be willing to let the better Fla schools go with the other conference to get ECU and Temple in the fold for geographic purposes. Temple, Marshall, ODU, ECU, WKU, MTSU, UNCC, FIU, FAU is not a bad start
(12-10-2014 09:36 AM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]IF Uconn, Cincy and Memphis left the AAC, then its possible that Temple and ECU may be interested in coming back to CUSA, especially if Navy decided to stay independent. I still think it'd be better for everyone, especially at that point, if the AAC became the east conference we all want, and CUSA became the Texas/Alabama gulf region conference. It would all make sense except for who keeps which Fla schools. UCF and USF are definitely better options than F_Us. I'd be willing to let the better Fla schools go with the other conference to get ECU and Temple in the fold for geographic purposes. Temple, Marshall, ODU, ECU, WKU, MTSU, UNCC, FIU, FAU is not a bad start
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(12-10-2014 09:36 AM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]IF Uconn, Cincy and Memphis left the AAC, then its possible that Temple and ECU may be interested in coming back to CUSA, especially if Navy decided to stay independent. I still think it'd be better for everyone, especially at that point, if the AAC became the east conference we all want, and CUSA became the Texas/Alabama gulf region conference. It would all make sense except for who keeps which Fla schools. UCF and USF are definitely better options than F_Us. I'd be willing to let the better Fla schools go with the other conference to get ECU and Temple in the fold for geographic purposes. Temple, Marshall, ODU, ECU, WKU, MTSU, UNCC, FIU, FAU is not a bad start
I can't imagine anyone would return to CUSA from the American. Even if UConn, Cincy and Memphis all leave, they'd just snag the best of the other conferences. Moving from the AAC to another G5 conference would, for better or worse, feel like a demotion to them, even if it's not really one.