According to rule 18.7.2.2.2 "waiver for conference champion" it sounds like a simple 2/3 vote of the leadership council for the conference champion to be determined bowl eligible. If we had not won the conference, this rule would not apply. Plus we meet the definition of a "deserving team" per the rule, and the SBC champion is contractually required to go to a bowl. Therefore we do not have to first wait for all of the bowls to be filled. We should be determined eligible if the ncaa follows the conference champion rule.
18.7.2.2 Contest Status. [FBS] A contest shall be licensed only if it serves the purpose of providing a national contest between deserving teams. A “deserving team” shall be defined as one that has won a number of games against Football Bowl Subdivision opponents that is equal to or greater than the number of its overall losses. Tie games do not count in determining a team’s won-lost record. Further, when forfeiture of a regularseason football victory is required by the Committee on Infractions or a conference, or is self-imposed by an institution as a result of a violation of NCAA rules, neither of the competing institutions may count that contest in satisfying the definition of a “deserving team.” (Revised: 10/18/89, 10/12/93, 4/20/99, 12/15/06, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 7/30/10) 18.7.2.2.1 Exception—Football Championship Subdivision Opponent. [FBS] Each year, a Football Bowl
18.7.2.2.2 Waiver for Conference Champion. [FBS] The Leadership Council, by a two-thirds majority of its members present and voting, or a committee designated by the Leadership Council, may approve a waiver of the definition of a “deserving team,” to enable a conference champion to participate in a bowl game when the conference champion is scheduled contractually to participate in the game. (Adopted: 1/12/93, Revised: 10/28/97, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 7/30/10)
Oh gawd. I see hanging chads in our futures.
(11-30-2014 10:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]According to rule 18.7.2.2.2 "waiver for conference champion" it sounds like a simple 2/3 vote of the leadership council for the conference champion to be determined bowl eligible. If we had not won the conference, this rule would not apply. Plus we meet the definition of a "deserving team" per the rule.
18.7.2.2 Contest Status. [FBS] A contest shall be licensed only if it serves the purpose of providing a national contest between deserving teams. A “deserving team” shall be defined as one that has won a number of games against Football Bowl Subdivision opponents that is equal to or greater than the number of its overall losses. Tie games do not count in determining a team’s won-lost record. Further, when forfeiture of a regularseason football victory is required by the Committee on Infractions or a conference, or is self-imposed by an institution as a result of a violation of NCAA rules, neither of the competing institutions may count that contest in satisfying the definition of a “deserving team.” (Revised: 10/18/89, 10/12/93, 4/20/99, 12/15/06, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 7/30/10) 18.7.2.2.1 Exception—Football Championship Subdivision Opponent. [FBS] Each year, a Football Bowl
18.7.2.2.2 Waiver for Conference Champion. [FBS] The Leadership Council, by a two-thirds majority of its members present and voting, or a committee designated by the Leadership Council, may approve a waiver of the definition of a “deserving team,” to enable a conference champion to participate in a bowl game when the conference champion is scheduled contractually to participate in the game. (Adopted: 1/12/93, Revised: 10/28/97, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 7/30/10)
That is called the North Texas rule. They got a Waiver for a bowl bid after winning the SBC with a 5-6 record in 2001 (Our first awful year)
That does not apply here. We're not breaking a contractual agreement with any of our bowls by not having our champion available to take.
LET..............IT................GO
Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
I knew all that "deserving team" stuff looked familiar
(11-30-2014 10:12 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote: [ -> ]LET..............IT................GO
Just reading what the ncaa rule says.
yep good try busting out the ole NT ruling, but Chief is right. and the NO bowl is no longer required to take the SBC champion. I believe it was revised sometime around 2010-11. The SBC is only required to provide the conference champs with a bowl-but we all know that won't occur due to transitional rules.
I think you guys definitely will change the rule but that won't come until the offseason, if not a little further down the road
(11-30-2014 10:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
Yes, but they don't get out much. We told 'em we'd won the conference so they issued the invite. Sorry, but it's a done-deal.
(11-30-2014 10:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
No..arkansas state has 4 titles and only played in New orleans bowl once
(11-30-2014 10:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
That was gotten rid of for the "Rajun Cajun Exception" New Orleans Bowl can now take whoever the heck they want...as long as the champion is accommodated somewhere.
(11-30-2014 10:17 PM)RustonCAT Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2014 10:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
No..arkansas state has 4 titles and only played in New orleans bowl once
I kept thinking
turtles. What's he mean by
turtles?
I got to give GaSoEagle credit, he may be the first poster here to ever reference an NCAA by law by the reference number in the thread title.
(11-30-2014 10:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I got to give GaSoEagle credit, he may be the first poster here to ever reference an NCAA by law by the reference number in the thread title.
Isn't it time they password-protect those bylaws? Just sayin'.
(11-30-2014 10:43 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I got to give GaSoEagle credit, he may be the first poster here to ever reference an NCAA by law by the reference number in the thread title.
It was GSU Eagles btw.
(11-30-2014 10:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
Hasn't been the case for at least 3 or 4 years now.
Probably the biggest misconception (among many) about the SBC.
Three years ago the rule was that the NO Bowl had to take the Champion one year out of three. Which it did last year.
That's no longer the rule. It changed again this year. The conference only requires that the champion be accommodated and the bowls will rotate who gets to pick first.
This year NO has first pick.
I, for one, would not be disappointed about "missing out" on a 10 AM local time bowl game if we were to become so lucky as to be extended bowl eligibility.
(12-01-2014 06:16 AM)AstroCajun Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2014 10:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't the New Orleans bowl contractually required to take the SBC champion?
Hasn't been the case for at least 3 or 4 years now.
Probably the biggest misconception (among many) about the SBC.
Three years ago the rule was that the NO Bowl had to take the Champion one year out of three. Which it did last year.
That's no longer the rule. It changed again this year. The conference only requires that the champion be accommodated and the bowls will rotate who gets to pick first.
This year NO has first pick.
Understand. But the rule says the champion must be accommodated. I wonder if that is why the Camelia bowl allegedly encouraged us to pursue the waiver.
Simple solution - let bowl eligible teams left out of organized bowls play an impromptu December game. There going to be what 6 eligible teams not going to bowls counting the three transitional teams. Ga Southern could invite ODU down for another beating.
(12-01-2014 07:13 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote: [ -> ]Simple solution - let bowl eligible teams left out of organized bowls play an impromptu December game. There going to be what 6 eligible teams not going to bowls counting the three transitional teams. Ga Southern could invite ODU down for another beating.
Thank you, but two games against Taylor Heinicke are plenty enough.
