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Did you think you'd be 4-6? I Didn't think you have 4 wins all year let alone with 2 games stil to play. Good luck the rest of the year. Just curious how you feel about the year so far and what you see in the future.

(11-20-2014 02:59 PM)MU ATO Wrote: [ -> ]Did you think you'd be 4-6? I Didn't think you have 4 wins all year let alone with 2 games stil to play. Good luck the rest of the year. Just curious how you feel about the year so far and what you see in the future.

Well, it has been a fun year I'll say that! A lot of people didn't think we'd win more than 3 games, so in that regard I think we can call this year a success. Our last two games are going to be tough so not sure if we'll make it to 6-6. I think 5-6 is doable and that would be a great year for our first FBS season.

As far as how I see us now, our defense is as usual highly suspect. While the play of our defense is marginally better then last year, it is easy to see the points allowed and say our defense is horrible. However, compared to last year we are getting more turnovers and forcing a few three and outs. That is good as the defense is designed to bend not break in the hopes our offense can toss up large numbers (we'll score 55, lets see if you can is the basic game plan for our our team). The big improvement I've seen this year in our defense is that our Def Coordinator is moving us into better formations (a lot more of the 46 which I've been hoping to see) instead of the same vanilla formation ever game.

The offense has been failing to click this year to a large extent. It seems to be a combination of poor play and poor play calling. Each game the offense will produce 2-3 good quarters and at least one dud quarter. During that dud quarter the opponent seems to build a lead that can't be overtaken. Our run game is suspect. I admit I hate doing runs out of the shotgun which our coach seems to be in love with.

Going forward ODU has a chance to shine. We have one the youngest squads in FBS and on top of that, almost all our recruits have been redshirted. This years recruiting class was ranked second best in CUSA. The QB taking over next year is said to be a Heinicke 2.0 so we'll see if that is true. If it is I think we'll be looking good next year.

Also, as a side note, our QB, Heinicke, is currently the#7 rated QB in draft projections and I think he could go up if he is invited to the combine or Sr. Bowl. He has already accepted an invite to the East vs West game so scouts will see him play in some extra games.

I'm sure other ODU fans can give better thoughts, that is just mine.

(11-20-2014 03:38 PM)FTW ODU Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2014 02:59 PM)MU ATO Wrote: [ -> ]Did you think you'd be 4-6? I Didn't think you have 4 wins all year let alone with 2 games stil to play. Good luck the rest of the year. Just curious how you feel about the year so far and what you see in the future.

Well, it has been a fun year I'll say that! A lot of people didn't think we'd win more than 3 games, so in that regard I think we can call this year a success. Our last two games are going to be tough so not sure if we'll make it to 6-6. I think 5-6 is doable and that would be a great year for our first FBS season.

As far as how I see us now, our defense is as usual highly suspect. While the play of our defense is marginally better then last year, it is easy to see the points allowed and say our defense is horrible. However, compared to last year we are getting more turnovers and forcing a few three and outs. That is good as the defense is designed to bend not break in the hopes our offense can toss up large numbers (we'll score 55, lets see if you can is the basic game plan for our our team). The big improvement I've seen this year in our defense is that our Def Coordinator is moving us into better formations (a lot more of the 46 which I've been hoping to see) instead of the same vanilla formation ever game.

The offense has been failing to click this year to a large extent. It seems to be a combination of poor play and poor play calling. Each game the offense will produce 2-3 good quarters and at least one dud quarter. During that dud quarter the opponent seems to build a lead that can't be overtaken. Our run game is suspect. I admit I hate doing runs out of the shotgun which our coach seems to be in love with.

Going forward ODU has a chance to shine. We have one the youngest squads in FBS and on top of that, almost all our recruits have been redshirted. This years recruiting class was ranked second best in CUSA. The QB taking over next year is said to be a Heinicke 2.0 so we'll see if that is true. If it is I think we'll be looking good next year.

Also, as a side note, our QB, Heinicke, is projected to be the #7 rated QB in the draft this year for the NFL.

I'm sure other ODU fans can give better thoughts, that is just mine.

I would caution you to be careful about "Heinicke 2.0." Heinicke is huge for your team, clearly, and guys like that are never as easily replaced as fans think. Rice went through this after Chase Clement left, and we had an Alabama transfer we were all high on. Saw it happen to UH after Keenum left. Look no further than UTSA this year post-Soza. Everyone always thinks it's going to be easier than it is to replace a guy like that.

That being said, I think ODU set a great example this year and I think they're set up for future successes down the road. I'm a believer.

I think most of our fans were predicting 3-6 wins. I predicted 4 for the season. I am not surprised about our performance. Our offense has underwhelmed in my opinion (we lost 5 of our top receivers in the offseason due to discipline or injury). I think without those losses, we may have picked up another game or two.

Our defense has been bad since the program's inception, so no shock there. Many speak of redshirt recruits waiting in the wings for next year...we shall see.

Humbling year for sure, but not blown out in any game except vs. Marshall (and everyone has been sufficiently beaten by them). We are where I expected us to be.

If the defense does not improve next year I will be pretty disappointed. Additionally, we lose our top tier QB (who will end up in top 10 all time NCAA passing yardage). Hopefully Bentley can step up in his place and we can improve at other positions.

Next year I would like to see at least 6-6. Might be a stretch.

I think we will take a big step backwards next season and then make huge leaps forward in '16 and '17. I think our defense will improve but only marginally but the offense will really fall off. (By the way...I hope I am wrong).

Once the new QB gains experience and our FBS recruits get to be Jrs. and Srs., followed by another wave of solid recruits...we'll be fine.

The big question is how will our spoiled fans react to a bad year?

As for the league. I like it. It would be nice to be able to travel with the team more...but maybe with the addition of Charlotte and some regional OOC games, it will get easier.

(11-20-2014 04:03 PM)Quagmire Wrote: [ -> ]I think we will take a big step backwards next season and then make huge leaps forward in '16 and '17.

This year has been about what I expected.

Totally agree about taking a step back next year. Breaking in a new QB is going to include growing pains.

It seems like the talent level on the team is continuing to grow but is still young. I have significant expectations for 2017 until then it is all transitioning up a level.

The biggest thing looking forward is the new stadium.

We're glad to be here. I'm a little disappointed in how our season has gone. Our Defense was dreadful for the most part. (No big surprise since it wasn't very good at the FCS level either, and pretty much has the same level of recruits playing.) Aside from the Marshall game I felt that all were winnable if we could have just gotten a few stops. It just didn't happen often enough. Considering what we lost from our offense in the offseason due to graduation or other issues, I think the offense has been OK. Special teams needs work.

I, too, think we'll take a step back next year. Our D should have better talent, size and speed, but will be very young. Obviously, we will lose the heart and soul of the team in Heinicke, and though we are excited about Bentley, he'll be a RS Freshman. I expect to see a lot of Ray Lawry next season.

2016 is when I see this team moving up in the conference ranks. We shall see.

About what I expected. I agree our D is marginally better, if we had more size/experience on the defensive line I'd say it would have been the difference in a few games we lost.

Bright point is definitely true freshman running back Ray Lawry who recently earned a starting position. And as many have stated he'll need to carry some weight next year with a new QB.

Overall, glad to be in C-USA

We could still finish 6-6, so my initial prediction may yet hold. I don't know that we will, though. 4 wins isn't terrible for a team in our situation. 5 wins would be great. 6 wins would be storybook and I'll leave it at that.

And yes, Ray Lawry is going to be a beast in the coming years. Phenomenal production for a RB in our system, and as a freshman to boot.

We haven't enjoyed the success that we had in the FCS, but that was expected. I, for one, am glad to be playing in C-USA. As long as we can show improvement from one year to the next, I'll be happy. My hope is that we claim a conference championship before I leave this earth.

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)07owl Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2014 03:38 PM)FTW ODU Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2014 02:59 PM)MU ATO Wrote: [ -> ]Did you think you'd be 4-6? I Didn't think you have 4 wins all year let alone with 2 games stil to play. Good luck the rest of the year. Just curious how you feel about the year so far and what you see in the future.

Well, it has been a fun year I'll say that! A lot of people didn't think we'd win more than 3 games, so in that regard I think we can call this year a success. Our last two games are going to be tough so not sure if we'll make it to 6-6. I think 5-6 is doable and that would be a great year for our first FBS season.

As far as how I see us now, our defense is as usual highly suspect. While the play of our defense is marginally better then last year, it is easy to see the points allowed and say our defense is horrible. However, compared to last year we are getting more turnovers and forcing a few three and outs. That is good as the defense is designed to bend not break in the hopes our offense can toss up large numbers (we'll score 55, lets see if you can is the basic game plan for our our team). The big improvement I've seen this year in our defense is that our Def Coordinator is moving us into better formations (a lot more of the 46 which I've been hoping to see) instead of the same vanilla formation ever game.

The offense has been failing to click this year to a large extent. It seems to be a combination of poor play and poor play calling. Each game the offense will produce 2-3 good quarters and at least one dud quarter. During that dud quarter the opponent seems to build a lead that can't be overtaken. Our run game is suspect. I admit I hate doing runs out of the shotgun which our coach seems to be in love with.

Going forward ODU has a chance to shine. We have one the youngest squads in FBS and on top of that, almost all our recruits have been redshirted. This years recruiting class was ranked second best in CUSA. The QB taking over next year is said to be a Heinicke 2.0 so we'll see if that is true. If it is I think we'll be looking good next year.

Also, as a side note, our QB, Heinicke, is projected to be the #7 rated QB in the draft this year for the NFL.

I'm sure other ODU fans can give better thoughts, that is just mine.

I would caution you to be careful about "Heinicke 2.0." Heinicke is huge for your team, clearly, and guys like that are never as easily replaced as fans think. Rice went through this after Chase Clement left, and we had an Alabama transfer we were all high on. Saw it happen to UH after Keenum left. Look no further than UTSA this year post-Soza. Everyone always thinks it's going to be easier than it is to replace a guy like that.

That being said, I think ODU set a great example this year and I think they're set up for future successes down the road. I'm a believer.

Much truth here. We got lucky with back to back Pennington/Leftwich, then nothing for 10 years till Cato shows up. I mean we had some QBs but nothing like those three.

(11-21-2014 12:08 AM)MUther Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)07owl Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2014 03:38 PM)FTW ODU Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2014 02:59 PM)MU ATO Wrote: [ -> ]Did you think you'd be 4-6? I Didn't think you have 4 wins all year let alone with 2 games stil to play. Good luck the rest of the year. Just curious how you feel about the year so far and what you see in the future.

Well, it has been a fun year I'll say that! A lot of people didn't think we'd win more than 3 games, so in that regard I think we can call this year a success. Our last two games are going to be tough so not sure if we'll make it to 6-6. I think 5-6 is doable and that would be a great year for our first FBS season.

As far as how I see us now, our defense is as usual highly suspect. While the play of our defense is marginally better then last year, it is easy to see the points allowed and say our defense is horrible. However, compared to last year we are getting more turnovers and forcing a few three and outs. That is good as the defense is designed to bend not break in the hopes our offense can toss up large numbers (we'll score 55, lets see if you can is the basic game plan for our our team). The big improvement I've seen this year in our defense is that our Def Coordinator is moving us into better formations (a lot more of the 46 which I've been hoping to see) instead of the same vanilla formation ever game.

The offense has been failing to click this year to a large extent. It seems to be a combination of poor play and poor play calling. Each game the offense will produce 2-3 good quarters and at least one dud quarter. During that dud quarter the opponent seems to build a lead that can't be overtaken. Our run game is suspect. I admit I hate doing runs out of the shotgun which our coach seems to be in love with.

Going forward ODU has a chance to shine. We have one the youngest squads in FBS and on top of that, almost all our recruits have been redshirted. This years recruiting class was ranked second best in CUSA. The QB taking over next year is said to be a Heinicke 2.0 so we'll see if that is true. If it is I think we'll be looking good next year.

Also, as a side note, our QB, Heinicke, is projected to be the #7 rated QB in the draft this year for the NFL.

I'm sure other ODU fans can give better thoughts, that is just mine.

I would caution you to be careful about "Heinicke 2.0." Heinicke is huge for your team, clearly, and guys like that are never as easily replaced as fans think. Rice went through this after Chase Clement left, and we had an Alabama transfer we were all high on. Saw it happen to UH after Keenum left. Look no further than UTSA this year post-Soza. Everyone always thinks it's going to be easier than it is to replace a guy like that.

That being said, I think ODU set a great example this year and I think they're set up for future successes down the road. I'm a believer.

Much truth here. We got lucky with back to back Pennington/Leftwich, then nothing for 10 years till Cato shows up. I mean we had some QBs but nothing like those three.

Heinicke will be missed very much, and it's true you never know how a qb will make the transition to college. I say this to take nothing away from TH, but one advantage Heinicke had that Bentley won't is that of being able to play against only FCS competition for his first two seasons. TH was able to put up great numbers that first year, and Bentley may struggle a little more his first season because he will be facing a higher caliber of defenses at the start. Bentley put up video game stats in HS (13K yds., 177 TD) and I think it's easy to look at those and project that to what he might do at ODU. I just hope we fans are patient with him for a while, especially in the wake of Heinicke's special talents and unusual circumstances.

On 8/12/2014 I posted the following:

Quote:I expect 4 wins. Will be happy with 5. Over the moon with 6 and you won't hear the end of it for 7 or more.

That being said. I think we're exactly where I thought we would be. Our offense can hang with the best of them when we're firing on all cylinders and get stuffed by the better D's. Our D is about where it was last year but more fundamentally sound and can come with a few stops a game but not enough to stop most decent FBS offenses.

It's been fun! Very fun. Glad to be here.

I have a different outlook on next year. I do not think we will take a step back. I think we might benefit with breaking in a new young quarterback. My hope is we run the ball a little more, not play so fast on offense, more ball control, and the defense with more talent and being on the field less will be improved.

I predicted 5-7 this season and we can still get there.

We certainly did not embarrass ourselves this season but as we aim for the top of the league we will have to get much, much better.

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)07owl Wrote: [ -> ]I would caution you to be careful about "Heinicke 2.0." Heinicke is huge for your team, clearly, and guys like that are never as easily replaced as fans think. Rice went through this after Chase Clement left, and we had an Alabama transfer we were all high on. Saw it happen to UH after Keenum left. Look no further than UTSA this year post-Soza. Everyone always thinks it's going to be easier than it is to replace a guy like that.

Words of wisdom.

Congrats ODU on a fine first year at the fbs level. That win over Rice was especially nice for you guys, I'd imagine.

This season has been almost exactly as I expected. I figured we'd beat Hampton, EMU and FIU and figured we'd get one upset. I thought that'd be UTEP so was surprised it was Rice. The early Rice win gave me hope for 6 wins, but our D and O line just aren't big enough yet. I've enjoyed the CUSA banter on this board, its been fun to root for the CUSA teams in non-conference and follow the conference race. Its also been nice having Marshall in the hunt for the Access. I have been a little disappointed in the national coverage of CUSA though. I thought it would be greater, with highlights on ESPN more frequently, and I figured ODU would get at least state wide coverage for each game, but its only been regional within the state with a few exceptions. Most of the games were available on TV or internet to watch, so that was nice. The quality of football has been more fun to watch. As a fan though, I do miss the rivalries and geographic proximity of the CAA. And the difference in atmosphere or quality of football from the CAA to CUSA is not a huge as I would have thought. I guess I thought all CUSA football was like ECU or Cincinnati or Navy, Marshall or So Miss. The reality seems to be more like W.KY MTSU... which isn't much different than the top of 1AA football like ODU, JMU, Delaware or App St.. So bottom line, I'm happy to be here and am enjoying it just fine. It's not perfect, but it's better than a dying 1AA conference... or the Sun Belt.

(11-20-2014 04:45 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]About what I expected. I agree our D is marginally better, if we had more size/experience on the defensive line I'd say it would have been the difference in a few games we lost.

Bright point is definitely true freshman running back Ray Lawry who recently earned a starting position. And as many have stated he'll need to carry some weight next year with a new QB.

Overall, glad to be in C-USA

This erstwhile C-USA fan (pending the outcome of the "sentence" awaiting UAB's Football Team) is glad to have you, too.

(11-21-2014 01:10 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]This season has been almost exactly as I expected. I figured we'd beat Hampton, EMU and FIU and figured we'd get one upset. I thought that'd be UTEP so was surprised it was Rice. The early Rice win gave me hope for 6 wins, but our D and O line just aren't big enough yet. I've enjoyed the CUSA banter on this board, its been fun to root for the CUSA teams in non-conference and follow the conference race. Its also been nice having Marshall in the hunt for the Access. I have been a little disappointed in the national coverage of CUSA though. I thought it would be greater, with highlights on ESPN more frequently, and I figured ODU would get at least state wide coverage for each game, but its only been regional within the state with a few exceptions. Most of the games were available on TV or internet to watch, so that was nice. The quality of football has been more fun to watch. As a fan though, I do miss the rivalries and geographic proximity of the CAA. And the difference in atmosphere or quality of football from the CAA to CUSA is not a huge as I would have thought. I guess I thought all CUSA football was like ECU or Cincinnati or Navy, Marshall or So Miss. The reality seems to be more like W.KY MTSU... which isn't much different than the top of 1AA football like ODU, JMU, Delaware or App St.. So bottom line, I'm happy to be here and am enjoying it just fine. It's not perfect, but it's better than a dying 1AA conference... or the Sun Belt.

I agree with you there. The fan support is dismal with such good programs. No reason we should have teams playing in frnt of 1k fans and even more playing in front of crowds that high school teams beat. But it is what it is. Its nice to have odus atmosphere added. Really nice and look forward to watching ODU grow