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(10-14-2019 10:27 AM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]He also tried a 58-yard field goal on 4th and 3 with a kicker whose career long was 49 (earlier in the game).

In fairness, Ray Alborn tried what would have been a school record 54 yarder on 4th and 6 from a kicker playing in his first college game who had never kicked a college field goal before. Kick hit the upright but kicker was roughed, 15 yard penalty and first down. 3 plays and 2 sacks later, they scored a school record (at the time) 55 yard fg.... or so I've heard
(10-15-2019 02:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2019 10:27 AM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]He also tried a 58-yard field goal on 4th and 3 with a kicker whose career long was 49 (earlier in the game).

In fairness, Ray Alborn tried what would have been a school record 54 yarder on 4th and 6 from a kicker playing in his first college game who had never kicked a college field goal before. Kick hit the upright but kicker was roughed, 15 yard penalty and first down. 3 plays and 2 sacks later, they scored a school record (at the time) 55 yard fg.... or so I've heard

04-cheers 01-ncaabbs
(10-15-2019 02:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2019 10:27 AM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]He also tried a 58-yard field goal on 4th and 3 with a kicker whose career long was 49 (earlier in the game).

In fairness, Ray Alborn tried what would have been a school record 54 yarder on 4th and 6 from a kicker playing in his first college game who had never kicked a college field goal before. Kick hit the upright but kicker was roughed, 15 yard penalty and first down. 3 plays and 2 sacks later, they scored a school record (at the time) 55 yard fg.... or so I've heard


Good thing they got sacked on the opposite hash so the same kick went thru the second time.

Or so I imagine.

I was probably there, just can’t remember ‘em all any more (!)
lol

obviously a shameless plug.... The only point I was making was that sometimes kickers are at the mercy of opportunity. I have little doubt that Chris Boswell was capable of kicking the ball farther than the guy who's record he tied... and both had of course made even longer ones in practice... but his only opportunity was that one. SOme others probably could have as well, but never got the chance.

One would suspect that unless it's a hail-mary situation, that a coach would generally only let a guy try something that he'd seen him at least come close to in practice with some regularity.
(10-15-2019 02:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-14-2019 10:27 AM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]He also tried a 58-yard field goal on 4th and 3 with a kicker whose career long was 49 (earlier in the game).

In fairness, Ray Alborn tried what would have been a school record 54 yarder on 4th and 6 from a kicker playing in his first college game who had never kicked a college field goal before. Kick hit the upright but kicker was roughed, 15 yard penalty and first down. 3 plays and 2 sacks later, they scored a school record (at the time) 55 yard fg.... or so I've heard

I seem to remember that this guy was some walk-on who won a kicking competition for the job earlier in the week, although perhaps my memory fails me in that regard.
(10-13-2019 11:19 PM)WRCisforgotten79’' Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 03:17 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]If we do bring in somebody from outside, he will not have the luxury of a multi-year losing-record transition period.

03-shhhh

Context matters. Back in 2014 when I posted that (and there was a possibility of Bailiff leaving on a mediocre note), the future of the program was at stake. Now, I’m not so sure.
Wellll, looks like he's good for now (you never know, though):

Amid down year, Muschamp looks forward to ‘a long tenure here at South Carolina’
(11-18-2019 01:08 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Wellll, looks like he's good for now (you never know, though):

Amid down year, Muschamp looks forward to ‘a long tenure here at South Carolina’

Our boy is shuffling the deckchairs like a pro...looks like the problem was a lot more than Roper...

Gamecocks coach Will Muschamp shuffles football staff

Quote:The moves were aimed at eliminating the two most troublesome areas of the Gamecocks’ program the past two years — its inept offense and a lengthy injury list.

Offensive coordinator and play-caller Bryan McClendon was demoted, and Muschamp has already begun the search for a new one, his sixth such search in eight years as a head coach.

“You know, no one was bitching last year when we averaged 425 yards and we averaged over 30 points a game. We’ve struggled this year. There’s a lot of different areas that are at fault and need to get fixed, and that’s what I’m going to do.”

McClendon was elevated to interim coordinator and play-caller after taking over for the fired Kurt Roper at the end of Muschamp’s second season. The Gamecocks won the Outback Bowl with an electrifying fourth-quarter comeback as McClendon called the shots, prompting Muschamp to drop the interim tag soon after.
Muschamp knows how to build a defense but is a disaster on the other side of the ball. It’s really amazing that he can be a good DC with so little understanding of how offenses work. Somebody needs to pay him a couple of million to be a DC.
(12-02-2019 03:40 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Muschamp knows how to build a defense but is a disaster on the other side of the ball. It’s really amazing that he can be a good DC with so little understanding of how offenses work. Somebody needs to pay him a couple of million to be a DC.

Well...he's "available" again, ha, ha:

From one Dawg to another: South Carolina replaces Muschamp with Bobo
...he's currently a defensive analyst on the #2 ranked Georgia coaching staff as well as their Special Teams Coordinator. Would it have gone better hiring Will than we are doing now? Could we? Should we?
(09-22-2021 12:51 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]...he's currently a defensive analyst on the #2 ranked Georgia coaching staff as well as their Special Teams Coordinator. Would it have gone better hiring Will than we are doing now? Could we? Should we?

He's special teams coordinator? Despite his Florida Gators getting regularly gashed on special teams fakes? That seems ill suited.
(09-22-2021 06:35 PM)franklyconfused Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-22-2021 12:51 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]...he's currently a defensive analyst on the #2 ranked Georgia coaching staff as well as their Special Teams Coordinator. Would it have gone better hiring Will than we are doing now? Could we? Should we?

He's special teams coordinator? Despite his Florida Gators getting regularly gashed on special teams fakes? That seems ill suited.

Hasn't seemed to stop him from helping the team he's currently coaching at keep on winning, and their defense has been a big part of it, especially after losing all those players to the NFL last season, but keeps right on rolling.

Georgia is again #1 ranked, heading back to the SEC championship, this time against LSU tomorrow, and a very likely CFP participant again even if they lose tomorrow. Muschamp can't stink all that bad for that to happen two years in a row with him as the co-defensive coordinator and safeties coach at the University of Georgia.

Rice needs to go outside the box a bit when it comes to choosing coaches, especially in today's environment. Taking a chance on a guy too soon, or one that's got a football rep that has been damaged and wants another chance to redeem is okay. If it doesn't work, that is okay as long as Rice is willing to move on sooner rather than later. Problem is partly that Rice holds on to the bad ones too long, and when they have a good one, they don't often want to double down to try to keep them here as long as they can. In fact, almost the opposite of those seems more true sometimes.

Look at Liberty. Did they have any illusions that Freeze would stay forever if he had success there? No. Did they nevertheless double down to try to keep him as long as possible, and by doing so, show that their job was still desirable to anyone else after? Yes. Now they are allegedly after the Coastal coach, who's has great success down the road from them. Why can they seemingly handle this better than a University that is supposedly "smart"?

As for Muschamp, say what you will, he has winner contacts, has done both well and not so well in past and was at one time designated Texas' "head coach in waiting." after Mack Brown, if you remember? He is the co-defensive coordinator and safeties coach at the still #1 and defending national champions University of Georgia. He served as head football coach at the University of Florida from 2011 to 2014 and the University of South Carolina from 2016 to 2020. Maybe he'd like another shot? If someone like him did, why would a school like Rice (or more specifically, Rice) not want to give it to him?

We either need to give a coach a chance that others aren't ready to, or spend a lot more money than we are and hire a guy with built-in recruiting like a Deion Sanders, who two years ago some people were making fun of as a college head coach possibility. Heck try RU Owls for three years and see what happens. At least it will be entertaining and generate some national headlines. There's just Got to be better candidates out there than Bailiff and Bloomgren, but we act like there aren't. I strongly disagree with those who who that sentiment whether fans, former players or admin-types. I'd expect DesRoaches to know better, but maybe he's already been subsumed into the Rice Way of loserdom...or maybe it's the Rice Swamp.
(12-02-2022 01:26 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Rice needs to go outside the box a bit when it comes to choosing coaches, especially in today's environment. Taking a chance on a guy too soon, or one that's got a football rep that has been damaged and wants another chance to redeem is okay. If it doesn't work, that is okay as long as Rice is willing to move on sooner rather than later.

This part.

I think we need to take more chances and have a shorter, better funded leash... i.e. offer a guy not ready for a $1mm job but currently only making 250, $500k with lots of incentives that can easily pay him 1+mm if he is successful, with that bonus funding his buyout if he is not... meaning he gets the money either way. Give him 'above average' assistant resources so he builds a great team under him (so its not all about 'him') and we can then hire from within if he is successful and moves on. Find a retired HC from somewhere who is great at the administrative aspects but doesn't want the stress and pressure of 'on the field' success (or who failed at it) to help him manage the administrative tasks and teach him the ropes.

What we've been doing is playing the same game as everyone else for about the same money (more actually, but obviously not enough more given the challenges) and then we draw some line and we either can't keep the guy (Fraud) or we can keep him, but we make him cut elsewhere (Bailiff).

Bailiff obviously has coaching skills, but its not as if he left us and went up.... even after some success at a lower level again... so clearly he's not a lock.
Wondering if someone would take another flyer at Muschamp after today's dominating first half performance in their final game of the season against what was but will soon not be anymore an undefeated Fla State team in the Orange Bowl? For those who are looking for a defense-first Head Coach, Muschamp is pretty good. Just needs to find an offensive-minded X's and O's guy to be his OC and run the Offense for him. If he has a few parts to work with on D, he can make that unit more solid than it is. Any takers?
(12-30-2023 06:33 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Wondering if someone would take another flyer at Muschamp after today's dominating first half performance in their final game of the season against what was but will soon not be anymore an undefeated Fla State team in the Orange Bowl? For those who are looking for a defense-first Head Coach, Muschamp is pretty good. Just needs to find an offensive-minded X's and O's guy to be his OC and run the Offense for him. If he has a few parts to work with on D, he can make that unit more solid than it is. Any takers?

You do realize FSU played with 7 offensive starters either injured or opting out, right? Including their starting QBs, top two running back, all-american WR (Coleman) and all-american TE (Wilson).
(12-30-2023 06:33 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Wondering if someone would take another flyer at Muschamp after today's dominating first half performance in their final game of the season against what was but will soon not be anymore an undefeated Fla State team in the Orange Bowl? For those who are looking for a defense-first Head Coach, Muschamp is pretty good. Just needs to find an offensive-minded X's and O's guy to be his OC and run the Offense for him. If he has a few parts to work with on D, he can make that unit more solid than it is. Any takers?


Manny Diaz got another chance. Why not Muschamp? Third time may just be the charm for the right buyer. Personally, I’d stick with DC if I were Muschamp. Only reason to take a HC job at this point in his career is if he feels he has something to prove. DC pay and perks at GA are pretty good.


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I'm not sure there are many HC jobs that are better than DC at Georgia.
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