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Vad Lee is the best QB in the CAA and possibly in the nation. He deserves to be in the mix for the Peyton.

John Robertson is tearing it up tonight. He's had a few off weeks, but is getting back on tract to make CAA POY a close race.

(11-15-2014 08:45 PM)Dukie95 Wrote: [ -> ]John Robertson is tearing it up tonight. He's had a few off weeks, but is getting back on tract to make CAA POY a close race.

5 TDs already for Robertson and it's still early in the 3rd.

(11-15-2014 07:40 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote: [ -> ]Vad Lee is the best QB in the CAA and possibly in the nation. He deserves to be in the mix for the Peyton.

+1

(11-15-2014 07:40 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote: [ -> ]Vad Lee is the best QB in the CAA and possibly in the nation. He deserves to be in the mix for the Peyton.

+1

(11-15-2014 11:32 PM)atljmualum Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-15-2014 07:40 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote: [ -> ]Vad Lee is the best QB in the CAA and possibly in the nation. He deserves to be in the mix for the Peyton.

+1

Its amazing how little chatter this JMU team and Lee in general are receiving nationally.

Through yesterday's games, Lee has thrown for nearly 3100 yards with 26 TD/6 INT and 740 yards rushing and 7 TD on the ground.

Robertson completing 68% of passes for 2400 yards, 31 TD, 2 INT 860 yards on the ground and 9 TDs.

Robertson's stats are better and he came with more Peyton hype going into the season, but Lee's stats are at worst, comparable. Lee is also shattering school records every time he takes the field. Robertson will (and should) win CAA POY, but we have a damn good QB.

There was some interesting chatter the other week about Lee vs. Landers. To me, Landers could put the team on his back with his incredible individual talent, bue we have better skill position guys and Lee is much better at working these guys into the flow of an offense than Landers would have been capable of. Tough one...its fun to think about though :)

Into the home stretch...

I thought Robertson was SR. Wow. Next year's Nova/JMU game is at home and that's going to be awesome.

He now is on the Payton watch list.

(11-16-2014 08:09 AM)PhillyDuke Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-15-2014 11:32 PM)atljmualum Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-15-2014 07:40 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote: [ -> ]Vad Lee is the best QB in the CAA and possibly in the nation. He deserves to be in the mix for the Peyton.

+1

Its amazing how little chatter this JMU team and Lee in general are receiving nationally.

Through yesterday's games, Lee has thrown for nearly 3100 yards with 26 TD/6 INT and 740 yards rushing and 7 TD on the ground.

Robertson completing 68% of passes for 2400 yards, 31 TD, 2 INT 860 yards on the ground and 9 TDs.

Robertson's stats are better and he came with more Peyton hype going into the season, but Lee's stats are at worst, comparable. Lee is also shattering school records every time he takes the field. Robertson will (and should) win CAA POY, but we have a damn good QB.

There was some interesting chatter the other week about Lee vs. Landers. To me, Landers could put the team on his back with his incredible individual talent, bue we have better skill position guys and Lee is much better at working these guys into the flow of an offense than Landers would have been capable of. Tough one...its fun to think about though :)

Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

(11-18-2014 12:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

So do you think if Landers had been playing in a more-friendly offense, he could put up the passing numbers Lee has this year?

(11-18-2014 12:34 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

So do you think if Landers had been playing in a more-friendly offense, he could put up the passing numbers Lee has this year?

Yes , but they ran the ball so well ( MM style ) they wouldnt be throwing the ball this much.

Not a knock on Lee, he should have been on the national radar , they bascially ignored his numbers. Lee is a top five athlete ever at JMU.

(11-18-2014 12:45 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:34 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

So do you think if Landers had been playing in a more-friendly offense, he could put up the passing numbers Lee has this year?

Yes , but they ran the ball so well ( MM style ) they wouldnt be throwing the ball this much.

Not a knock on Lee, he should have been on the national radar , they bascially ignored his numbers. Lee is a top five athlete ever at JMU.

Come on now....I loved watching Landers play and it was a completely different style but you have to be kidding saying that Landers was a better passer than Lee. I seriously questioned MM's coaching at times but if he chose simply not to pass the freaking ball giving he had a better passer than Lee playing QB then MM was a freaking idiot and cost JMU at least 2 national championships. Now I don't think MM was that inept as a coach but to hear HotRod tell it MM must have been the best defense JMU ever faced.

JMU's Vad Lee, and Sac St.'s DeAndre Carter added.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnfo..._2014a.htm

(11-18-2014 03:16 PM)MadGrad95 Wrote: [ -> ]JMU's Vad Lee, and Sac St.'s DeAndre Carter added.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnfo..._2014a.htm

Word.

(11-16-2014 04:29 PM)Dukie95 Wrote: [ -> ]

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TOTAL OFFENSE           Team Cl  G Rush Pass Plays Total Yds/G
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1. Vad Lee............. JMU  JR  7  401 2161   366  2562 366.0
2. John Robertson...... VU   JR  7  541 1624   285  2165 309.3

Into the home stretch...

I thought Robertson was SR. Wow. Next year's Nova/JMU game is at home and that's going to be awesome.

Wow, I may have to fly back for that one.

(11-18-2014 01:48 PM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:45 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:34 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

So do you think if Landers had been playing in a more-friendly offense, he could put up the passing numbers Lee has this year?

Yes , but they ran the ball so well ( MM style ) they wouldnt be throwing the ball this much.

Not a knock on Lee, he should have been on the national radar , they bascially ignored his numbers. Lee is a top five athlete ever at JMU.

Come on now....I loved watching Landers play and it was a completely different style but you have to be kidding saying that Landers was a better passer than Lee. I seriously questioned MM's coaching at times but if he chose simply not to pass the freaking ball giving he had a better passer than Lee playing QB then MM was a freaking idiot and cost JMU at least 2 national championships. Now I don't think MM was that inept as a coach but to hear HotRod tell it MM must have been the best defense JMU ever faced.

I tend to agree. I really love Landers, but to me Lee looks like an even better version, including in the passing game. If Landers was better at anything, I would say it was on the ground, especially in traffic. But I admit my memory isn't the best.

(11-18-2014 01:48 PM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:45 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:34 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

So do you think if Landers had been playing in a more-friendly offense, he could put up the passing numbers Lee has this year?

Yes , but they ran the ball so well ( MM style ) they wouldnt be throwing the ball this much.

Not a knock on Lee, he should have been on the national radar , they bascially ignored his numbers. Lee is a top five athlete ever at JMU.

Come on now....I loved watching Landers play and it was a completely different style but you have to be kidding saying that Landers was a better passer than Lee. I seriously questioned MM's coaching at times but if he chose simply not to pass the freaking ball giving he had a better passer than Lee playing QB then MM was a freaking idiot and cost JMU at least 2 national championships. Now I don't think MM was that inept as a coach but to hear HotRod tell it MM must have been the best defense JMU ever faced.

Lmao , Landers rushed for 1700 yards and only lost to Duke his senior yr. Lee is still working on passing game , so saying Landers was better is not far fetched. And they both run the spread option. MM hated turnovers so we would throw ball when needed. Watch the tape

(11-18-2014 04:03 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 01:48 PM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:45 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:34 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-18-2014 12:32 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote: [ -> ]Landers , he was a threat on the read option plays and could throw the ball better than Lee. Lee is a better athlete and faster than landers , but lacks that " toughness" that these read option Qbs need to possess.

So do you think if Landers had been playing in a more-friendly offense, he could put up the passing numbers Lee has this year?

Yes , but they ran the ball so well ( MM style ) they wouldnt be throwing the ball this much.

Not a knock on Lee, he should have been on the national radar , they bascially ignored his numbers. Lee is a top five athlete ever at JMU.

Come on now....I loved watching Landers play and it was a completely different style but you have to be kidding saying that Landers was a better passer than Lee. I seriously questioned MM's coaching at times but if he chose simply not to pass the freaking ball giving he had a better passer than Lee playing QB then MM was a freaking idiot and cost JMU at least 2 national championships. Now I don't think MM was that inept as a coach but to hear HotRod tell it MM must have been the best defense JMU ever faced.

Lmao , Landers rushed for 1700 yards and only lost to Duke his senior yr. Lee is still working on passing game , so saying Landers was better is not far fetched. And they both run the spread option. MM hated turnovers so we would throw ball when needed. Watch the tape

I don't need to watch the freaking tape --- Perhaps you should watch a little tape b/c as much as I appreciate everything that Landers did, he was no great passer. Lots of screens and dump-offs in that scheme. You go get some tape and watch Mike Cawley and Eriq Williams they were both probably better passers than Landers too.

Cawley was definitely a better passer. Accuracy wise and throw difficulty, the best I've seen at JMU.

(11-18-2014 04:30 PM)ShadyP Wrote: [ -> ]You go get some tape and watch Mike Cawley and Eriq Williams they were both probably better passers than Landers too.

absolutely... Landers probably wasn't even a top 5 all-time "passer" at JMU

He was Tebowesque... a solid FB-built running QB with enough passing skill to keep defenses honest