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Curious to see where/if Armstead is on the list. I'd personally rank him above Bowie, but not above Highsmith. Tables may have turned after the injury to Highsmith though. Need to see him play to validate such.

(10-23-2014 10:42 AM)EA3 Wrote: [ -> ]Curious to see where/if Armstead is on the list. I'd personally rank him above Bowie, but not above Highsmith. Tables may have turned after the injury to Highsmith though. Need to see him play to validate such.

I bet Anthony Johnson will be a top 15-20 player in the MAC this season as well but he won't be on this top 25 list due to him being a transfer.

Aaric Armstead will be around 15-16 and Threloff should be 5-8.

That's pretty high for Dontel since he didn't play any conference games. TOLEDO and NIU should both lead the way with 4-guys. If, they put in transfers they both will have 5 guys.

(10-23-2014 04:26 PM)dekalb222 Wrote: [ -> ]Aaric Armstead will be around 15-16 and Threloff should be 5-8.

I can't even respond to this. We are on different planets in regards to assessing talent in the MAC.

Tucker Haymond is on the list(really). If, Austin Richie makes it then so should Travon Baker!

(10-23-2014 04:52 PM)dekalb222 Wrote: [ -> ]Tucker Haymond is on the list(really). If, Austin Richie makes it then so should Travon Baker!

I said nothing about any of those players.

But again...we are on completely different planets in regards to talent assessment in the MAC.

I never said that you said anything about those players. I looked at the names and didn't feel Haymond should be on the list. Where would you put Armstead or Threloff or maybe they wouldn't make your list?

(10-23-2014 05:38 PM)dekalb222 Wrote: [ -> ]I never said that you said anything about those players. I looked at the names and didn't feel Haymond should be on the list. Where would you put Armstead or Threloff or maybe they wouldn't make your list?

I made my list well before Hustlebelt.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-698590.html

Glaring error was not remembering that Freelove exhausted his eligibility.

I do prefer Boothe over Threloff...despite Threloff getting the better of the matchup in both games last year. I think Boothe will make a huge leap this year. I'm more inclined to say Threloff reached his ceiling last year. I ranked them in that order for that reason alone. I could be totally wrong by the time the season is over.

I looked at your list, I would say Threloff is better than Boothe and Conner Tava is good but is no better than Bowie. Oh well, time shall tell all. I give you credit, you did your homework on these guys.

The initial shock of reading your assessment of Threloff has slightly worn off. I would concede that he is likely ranked too low on my list. However, as stated, I do prefer Boothe and I think he will perform better than Threloff this year. Just my hunch.

If you think Tava is no better than Bowie, I don't know what to tell you. Here's a quick snap shot of their stats.

FG%

Tava .585
Bowie .380

PPG

Tava 11.8
Bowie 9.6

RPG

Tava 5.7
Bowie 6.5

Assists

Tava 2.9 (that's more than your PG averages)
Bowie 1.1

Turnovers

Tava 3.3
Bowie 2.9

Minutes per game

Tava 29.6
Bowie 27.7


The FG% and assists stick out the most to me. Maybe Bowie will continue his progression and Tava will slip a bit without Whittington drawing so much attention. I wouldn't be willing to bet on that though.

If, Bowie shot just a little better from free-throw line he scores as much as Tava. Tava playing without Shayne may affect his scoring. I'd also like to see Aaric Armstead compared to Tucker Haymond. Should be a fun competitive season, I cant wait!

I also put Threloff that high because he is a center. I don't think he is the 5-8 best player. The first team ALL-MAC team probably will have a big/center on it.

FG%, 3PT%, FT% Tucker Haymond was better than Aaric Armstead. Rebs, Blocks, Steals and Scoring Armstead was better than Haymond.

Bowie catches up to tava in PPG under that scenario. Still gets blown away in FG% and assists though. You could make a really good case for tava being the second or third best PF in the MAC behind Treadwell and maybe Ndour if you call him a PF and not a center.




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Tough to compare Armstead and Haymond. Armstead was scoring option 1 for NIU. Haymond was #4 for WMU. Haymond benefited from being ignored and unknown. Armstead was anointed NIUs offensive weapon by the end of the season. Scouting reports didn't focus on how to shut down Armstead or Haymond though. I'll take Haymond. You'll take Armstead. I'd expect nothing less.

I also freely admit that NIUs stats are skewed due to MMs preferred slow down style of play. Reminded me of EMU in murphys first year. Tough to get the sexy stats with such a short leash


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In regards to Threloff. I'd rate him no lower than #4 but no higher than #3 in terms of centers in the MAC. I'd take Ndour at center (I really think he's a C in this league) and forsythe at 1 and 2. Boothe is my third option and Threloff could be debated there.


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Defensively the guys from NIU are good. I have not seen anyone from WMU enough to know about their abilities. I don't think highly of Richie though.