I just read through the ISU game thread, and watched the game on ISU's TV stream. I hate to bring this thread up again, but feel the need.
We play the same defense, 10 yds off the ball for 4 years and expect different results (insanity). More disappointing is that we don't seem to improve as the years goes on. (coaching). Remember Akron?
We recruit well for a mid major, but don't develop our players.
I don't want to wait any longer to see if this guy can grow into his job.
Let's cut our losses.
PS. maybe we'll win the west and Campbell can get promoted to Illinois
from another thread:
I think one thing that gets overlooked when comparing the MAC to P5 conferences is the coaching. I think the GAP is this area if much greater than the talent on the field. Think back to MAC teams that were coached by solid Head Coaches and staffs. ( Pinkel, Saban, Kelly, Urban Meyer, Jerry Kill) these teams tended to be teams that could compete at a higher level. It is tough to compete when you have slightly less depth and inferior coaching staffs. Right now, we have young inexperienced staff that is not taking advantage of the talent we have in the program.
Brady Hoke should be available at the end of the season.
Buffalo just fired their coach for losing to EMU.
Solution: Lose to EMU, and you'll get a new coach. :)
(10-13-2014 03:52 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ]I just read through the ISU game thread, and watched the game on ISU's TV stream. I hate to bring this thread up again, but feel the need.
We play the same defense, 10 yds off the ball for 4 years and expect different results (insanity). More disappointing is that we don't seem to improve as the years goes on. (coaching). Remember Akron?
We recruit well for a mid major, but don't develop our players.
I don't want to wait any longer to see if this guy can grow into his job.
Let's cut our losses.
PS. maybe we'll win the west and Campbell can get promoted to Illinois
Just ******* stop. It's not going to happen.
(10-13-2014 06:25 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 03:52 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ]I just read through the ISU game thread, and watched the game on ISU's TV stream. I hate to bring this thread up again, but feel the need.
We play the same defense, 10 yds off the ball for 4 years and expect different results (insanity). More disappointing is that we don't seem to improve as the years goes on. (coaching). Remember Akron?
We recruit well for a mid major, but don't develop our players.
I don't want to wait any longer to see if this guy can grow into his job.
Let's cut our losses.
PS. maybe we'll win the west and Campbell can get promoted to Illinois
Just ******* stop. It's not going to happen.
promoted to Illinois, or just stop growing....again
(10-13-2014 05:24 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ]from another thread:
I think one thing that gets overlooked when comparing the MAC to P5 conferences is the coaching. I think the GAP is this area if much greater than the talent on the field. Think back to MAC teams that were coached by solid Head Coaches and staffs. ( Pinkel, Saban, Kelly, Urban Meyer, Jerry Kill) these teams tended to be teams that could compete at a higher level. It is tough to compete when you have slightly less depth and inferior coaching staffs. Right now, we have young inexperienced staff that is not taking advantage of the talent we have in the program.
The Pass Defense needs to be fixed. That's it. Everything else is good or not a big issue. Our incoming recruiting class looks very good. The big differences between the MAC schools and P5 is money and player talent. You've got two former National Head Coaches of the Year that haven't exactly beat up the Conference so far.
The secondary was a concern from the start of the season because of the lack of experience and injury to Cheatum. But they show improvement with each game. UT has not really lost ugly in any game. If the SEC refs had called an unbiased game against Missouri, the score would not have been so lopsided.
Campbell is 3 and 0 in the MAC. That is what matters. I love this Rockets team. I would take Campbell over Beckman no question about it. GO ROCKETS!
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(10-13-2014 06:32 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 06:25 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 03:52 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ]I just read through the ISU game thread, and watched the game on ISU's TV stream. I hate to bring this thread up again, but feel the need.
We play the same defense, 10 yds off the ball for 4 years and expect different results (insanity). More disappointing is that we don't seem to improve as the years goes on. (coaching). Remember Akron?
We recruit well for a mid major, but don't develop our players.
I don't want to wait any longer to see if this guy can grow into his job.
Let's cut our losses.
PS. maybe we'll win the west and Campbell can get promoted to Illinois
Just ******* stop. It's not going to happen.
promoted to Illinois, or just stop growing....again
Call up Mike and tell him how you feel and watch how fast he..... A) Laughs at you because you sound ridiculous or B) hangs up the phone.
Just stop before you make yourself look more like a fool.
(10-13-2014 06:48 PM)OldRock Wrote: [ -> ]The secondary was a concern from the start of the season because of the lack of experience and injury to Cheatum. But they show improvement with each game. UT has not really lost ugly in any game. If the SEC refs had called an unbiased game against Missouri, the score would not have been so lopsided.
Campbell is 3 and 0 in the MAC. That is what matters. I love this Rockets team. I would take Campbell over Beckman no question about it. GO ROCKETS!
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+1
(10-13-2014 06:59 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 06:32 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 06:25 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 03:52 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ]I just read through the ISU game thread, and watched the game on ISU's TV stream. I hate to bring this thread up again, but feel the need.
We play the same defense, 10 yds off the ball for 4 years and expect different results (insanity). More disappointing is that we don't seem to improve as the years goes on. (coaching). Remember Akron?
We recruit well for a mid major, but don't develop our players.
I don't want to wait any longer to see if this guy can grow into his job.
Let's cut our losses.
PS. maybe we'll win the west and Campbell can get promoted to Illinois
Just ******* stop. It's not going to happen.
promoted to Illinois, or just stop growing....again
Call up Mike and tell him how you feel and watch how fast he..... A) Laughs at you because you sound ridiculous or B) hangs up the phone.
Just stop before you make yourself look more like a fool.
Potts you must be delusional. (sp). I'm no fool.... this team gets outcoached in every game. At ISU we had too many men breaking the huddle after a time out! really?
We don't improve during the season at all, while others do.
We recruit well but don't develop talent.
Personally I'd like to see the rockets have bigger ambitions than winning a weak MAC west.
Sorry
(10-13-2014 07:17 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ]this team gets outcoached in every game.
We don't improve during the season at all, while others do.
We recruit well but don't develop talent.
Personally I'd like to see the rockets have bigger ambitions than winning a weak MAC west.
My thoughts exactly.
We'd all love to have a Saban here for the next 20 years - or even 5 years. Not likely to happen. BG had Meyer for all of 2 years and we had Saban for 1. No coach has dominated the MAC for any length of time more than maybe 3-4 years. if we take the West and MACC - weak or not - we are poised to have some decent success for a few years. Let Campbell finish the year then evaluate which direction we are headed in.
(10-13-2014 07:31 PM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ]We'd all love to have a Saban here for the next 20 years - or even 5 years. Not likely to happen. BG had Meyer for all of 2 years and we had Saban for 1. No coach has dominated the MAC for any length of time more than maybe 3-4 years. if we take the West and MACC - weak or not - we are poised to have some decent success for a few years. Let Campbell finish the year then evaluate which direction we are headed in.
Second highest paid coach in the MAC learning on the job..... Ugh
Coach Pinkel didn't have his breakout year until his fifth season in 1995 when we went 11-0-1.
Coach Campbell has a very young staff and realized, after only two seasons, that he didn't have the right defensive coordinator. Honestly, unless you're paying a few million dollars a year for salary, you just can't demand instant results.
Coaches at this level are more like investments than winning the lottery. (Although it can happen, like with Saban)
(10-13-2014 07:43 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 07:31 PM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ]We'd all love to have a Saban here for the next 20 years - or even 5 years. Not likely to happen. BG had Meyer for all of 2 years and we had Saban for 1. No coach has dominated the MAC for any length of time more than maybe 3-4 years. if we take the West and MACC - weak or not - we are poised to have some decent success for a few years. Let Campbell finish the year then evaluate which direction we are headed in.
Second highest paid coach in the MAC learning on the job..... Ugh
Except for Frank Solich, every coach in the MAC is learning on the job. Pony up the money and get someone better. But I'm sure you don't have a couple of million dollars laying around. So your stuck, ***** all you want but it's not going to change.
Please when this team wins the MAC West, don't show up in Detroit, because in your mind they have already lost.
(10-13-2014 07:43 PM)magoo Wrote: [ -> ] (10-13-2014 07:31 PM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ]We'd all love to have a Saban here for the next 20 years - or even 5 years. Not likely to happen. BG had Meyer for all of 2 years and we had Saban for 1. No coach has dominated the MAC for any length of time more than maybe 3-4 years. if we take the West and MACC - weak or not - we are poised to have some decent success for a few years. Let Campbell finish the year then evaluate which direction we are headed in.
Second highest paid coach in the MAC learning on the job..... Ugh
How much do you suppose Brady Hoke is making?
(10-13-2014 07:55 PM)Photodan Wrote: [ -> ]Coach Pinkel didn't have his breakout year until his fifth season in 1995 when we went 11-0-1.
Coach Campbell has a very young staff and realized, after only two seasons, that he didn't have the right defensive coordinator. Honestly, unless you're paying a few million dollars a year for salary, you just can't demand instant results.
Coaches at this level are more like investments than winning the lottery. (Although it can happen, like with Saban)
Not very good investments considering if they do have a modicum of success, they're out of here. For that reason alone, does it makes sense to give such an inexperienced staff that kind of money? Not rhetorical.
or a Stoops. There always seem to be one or two of those laying around. lol
Think I'll stand pat with Coach Campbell for a bit.