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Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Thanks for being concerned enough to come over to our board and try to regulate how to track "big" wins...

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Any program capable of drawing 65 friggen thousand fans in losing season like BYU has IS a big time program. Period. That's like top 25 in the entire nation and 3 times as many as your stadium even holds I bet. The fact they have been in the top 25 this year as well only validates that win beyond that. We draw like a mid level P5 program, they draw like a top level one. Educate yourself.

(10-12-2014 08:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Any program capable of drawing 65 friggen thousand fans in losing season like BYU has IS a big time program. Period. That's like top 25 in the entire nation and 3 times as many as your stadium even holds I bet. The fact they have been in the top 25 this year as well only validates that win beyond that. We draw like a mid level P5 program, they draw like a top level one. Educate yourself.

oh, I didn't realize rankings and attendance were what determined whether a team was a P5 team or not. Thanks for educating me.

Based on this logic we can eliminate half of the wins up there because Wake Forrest, Washington St and a couple of other most certainly do not meet the criteria.

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

good point...but to suggest wake forest is p5....and byu is not.

ah, the absurdity of it all.

If you have a tv channel, you are pretty big

(10-13-2014 12:02 AM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 08:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Any program capable of drawing 65 friggen thousand fans in losing season like BYU has IS a big time program. Period. That's like top 25 in the entire nation and 3 times as many as your stadium even holds I bet. The fact they have been in the top 25 this year as well only validates that win beyond that. We draw like a mid level P5 program, they draw like a top level one. Educate yourself.

oh, I didn't realize rankings and attendance were what determined whether a team was a P5 team or not. Thanks for educating me.

Based on this logic we can eliminate half of the wins up there because Wake Forrest, Washington St and a couple of other most certainly do not meet the criteria.

BYU + VT + UNC >>>> Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

I've posted the non-cartel records vs Cartel 5/Notre Dame/BYU ALL season and EVERY week. No one complained those weeks that I had BYU included when BYU was unbeaten, top 20 with blowout wins at Texas....now that both the mwc and aac have victories over them people speak out, funny.

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

perception wise beating byu is a lot better than beating the bottom half of the P5

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

So NW, Indiana and Purdue are better than BYU? Got it. Go back to the Rust Belt boards.

(10-13-2014 12:02 AM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 08:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Any program capable of drawing 65 friggen thousand fans in losing season like BYU has IS a big time program. Period. That's like top 25 in the entire nation and 3 times as many as your stadium even holds I bet. The fact they have been in the top 25 this year as well only validates that win beyond that. We draw like a mid level P5 program, they draw like a top level one. Educate yourself.

oh, I didn't realize rankings and attendance were what determined whether a team was a P5 team or not. Thanks for educating me.

Based on this logic we can eliminate half of the wins up there because Wake Forrest, Washington St and a couple of other most certainly do not meet the criteria.

get a clue dude. I certainly think BYU is a better program than Wake and Washington State. Hell I think they are a better program than many mid level P5 schools. When you can still put 65 thousand in the stadium in bad years and have won things like a national championship before you are nothing like MAC crap. That was certainly a win over a nice program.

Oh and BTW look up the programs that average the most and you'll find most of them are the elite programs in the nation. Maybe not from year to year every year, but overall over a period of time in most cases their success seems to match up with their level of support. Sure there are some exceptions but if you draw 80k+ you probably are in the top 15 rankings often too for example. There is certainly a correlation.

(10-13-2014 12:14 AM)Yung Knight Wrote: [ -> ]If you have a tv channel, you are pretty big

No kidding. There isn't many schools that could support a whole network even in the p5 schools. They have a P5 program even if the country club doesn't let them in the door.

(10-13-2014 07:28 AM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-13-2014 12:02 AM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 08:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 06:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]Non-Cartel Conference wins vs P5/Notre Dame/BYU

MWC 5-17: Colorado St d. Colorado, Utah St d Wake Forest, Nevada d Washington St, Colorado St d. Boston College, Utah St d. BYU

AAC 4-19: temple d. Vanderbilt, ECU d. Virginia Tech, ECU d. North Carolina. UCF d. BYU

MAC 3-21: Northern Illinois d. Northwestern, Bowling Green d. Indiana, Central Michigan d. Purdue

Sun Belt 1-14: Louisiana Monroe d. Wake Forest

CUSA: 0-19

BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Any program capable of drawing 65 friggen thousand fans in losing season like BYU has IS a big time program. Period. That's like top 25 in the entire nation and 3 times as many as your stadium even holds I bet. The fact they have been in the top 25 this year as well only validates that win beyond that. We draw like a mid level P5 program, they draw like a top level one. Educate yourself.

oh, I didn't realize rankings and attendance were what determined whether a team was a P5 team or not. Thanks for educating me.

Based on this logic we can eliminate half of the wins up there because Wake Forrest, Washington St and a couple of other most certainly do not meet the criteria.

get a clue dude. I certainly think BYU is a better program than Wake and Washington State. Hell I think they are a better program than many mid level P5 schools. When you can still put 65 thousand in the stadium in bad years and have won things like a national championship before you are nothing like MAC crap. That was certainly a win over a nice program.

Oh and BTW look up the programs that average the most and you'll find most of them are the elite programs in the nation. Maybe not from year to year every year, but overall over a period of time in most cases their success seems to match up with their level of support. Sure there are some exceptions but if you draw 80k+ you probably are in the top 15 rankings often too for example. There is certainly a correlation.

wow, some of you people really are dense. you're touting wins over really bad P5 teams without qualifying them as such but then adding in other teams you wish were in the P5 but aren't. clueless.

(10-13-2014 05:44 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-13-2014 07:28 AM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-13-2014 12:02 AM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 08:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-12-2014 07:39 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: [ -> ]BYU isn't on the same level as the P5+ND, you've just added them to bump up AAC and MWC by 1 to fit the narrative that those conferences have a separation over the other 3.

Any program capable of drawing 65 friggen thousand fans in losing season like BYU has IS a big time program. Period. That's like top 25 in the entire nation and 3 times as many as your stadium even holds I bet. The fact they have been in the top 25 this year as well only validates that win beyond that. We draw like a mid level P5 program, they draw like a top level one. Educate yourself.

oh, I didn't realize rankings and attendance were what determined whether a team was a P5 team or not. Thanks for educating me.

Based on this logic we can eliminate half of the wins up there because Wake Forrest, Washington St and a couple of other most certainly do not meet the criteria.

get a clue dude. I certainly think BYU is a better program than Wake and Washington State. Hell I think they are a better program than many mid level P5 schools. When you can still put 65 thousand in the stadium in bad years and have won things like a national championship before you are nothing like MAC crap. That was certainly a win over a nice program.

Oh and BTW look up the programs that average the most and you'll find most of them are the elite programs in the nation. Maybe not from year to year every year, but overall over a period of time in most cases their success seems to match up with their level of support. Sure there are some exceptions but if you draw 80k+ you probably are in the top 15 rankings often too for example. There is certainly a correlation.

wow, some of you people really are dense. you're touting wins over really bad P5 teams without qualifying them as such but then adding in other teams you wish were in the P5 but aren't. clueless.

so to make you happy the records shouldn't include BYU? That's fair, but like I said before, I ve posted this every week with byu included and nothing was brought up by you. Now that byu has lost to UCF your accusing me of propping up the AAC by including them with P5/notre dame. Seems a little unfair on your part. I've been consistent.

65 ******* thousand people a game in losing seasons. Nuff said

What is funny the original post counted byu well before the ucf game and when the league was 0-1 against them. Now it is all of a sudden an issue counting byu as a big win.

(10-14-2014 11:44 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]What is funny the original post counted byu well before the ucf game and when the league was 0-1 against them. Now it is all of a sudden an issue counting byu as a big win.

this.