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Only current SBC team with a top 50 class, with 9 *** recruits. Next closest is #87 USA with 4 ***. It's still early but Arkansas State's current class actually ranks above all AAC teams right now except for Cincy!
And wow, ASU has 19 recruits to others having 6,7,8,9 (and some less) already in. Can't imagine why there's such a gap.
(07-27-2014 11:43 PM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]And wow, ASU has 19 recruits to others having 6,7,8,9 (and some less) already in. Can't imagine why there's such a gap.

Its not our fault everyone likes us. We'll still have to hold on to a few of these, especially with this staff's policy of not allowing current commitments to take other visits.
(07-28-2014 12:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2014 11:43 PM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]And wow, ASU has 19 recruits to others having 6,7,8,9 (and some less) already in. Can't imagine why there's such a gap.

Its not our fault everyone likes us. We'll still have to hold on to a few of these, especially with this staff's policy of not allowing current commitments to take other visits.

was being a bit facetious. IE: with greater numbers you have a greater chance at the 3 and 4's.

We have 26 seniors this year so need a huge class for 2015. We're just getting started.
(07-28-2014 12:33 AM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-28-2014 12:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2014 11:43 PM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]And wow, ASU has 19 recruits to others having 6,7,8,9 (and some less) already in. Can't imagine why there's such a gap.

Its not our fault everyone likes us. We'll still have to hold on to a few of these, especially with this staff's policy of not allowing current commitments to take other visits.

was being a bit facetious. IE: with greater numbers you have a greater chance at the 3 and 4's.

We have 26 seniors this year so need a huge class for 2015. We're just getting started.

I know what you meant. I was just pointing out that its not our fault that everyone liked us enough to commit early.

Lots of sweating to do though. Not as worried about the out of state kids as I am the in state kids. Arkansas has a nasty habit of offering our commitments anything under the Sun to get them to switch.
PS - Our biggest problem since declaring to go FBS is that our coaching staff has the reputation of recognizing talent, early and often, that are not on the "Big boys' " radars. Once we offer or invite them to a camp those schools antennae go up and then they get offers from them.

We are not, yet, in a position to sway a Texas kid to go to TXST when UT or A&M comes in behind us with their offer. That same kid would be a 2 star if he commits to TXST but let him take the UT/A&M, etc., offer and he's a 3.
(07-28-2014 12:42 AM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]PS - Our biggest problem since declaring to go FBS is that our coaching staff has the reputation of recognizing talent, early and often, that are not on the "Big boys' " radars. Once we offer or invite them to a camp those schools antennae go up and then they get offers from them.

We are not, yet, in a position to sway a Texas kid to go to TXST when UT or A&M comes in behind us with their offer. That same kid would be a 2 star if he commits to TXST but let him take the UT/A&M, etc., offer and he's a 3.

There are certain players that Troy just doesn't mention for that very reason.
(07-28-2014 12:42 AM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]PS - Our biggest problem since declaring to go FBS is that our coaching staff has the reputation of recognizing talent, early and often, that are not on the "Big boys' " radars. Once we offer or invite them to a camp those schools antennae go up and then they get offers from them.

We are not, yet, in a position to sway a Texas kid to go to TXST when UT or A&M comes in behind us with their offer. That same kid would be a 2 star if he commits to TXST but let him take the UT/A&M, etc., offer and he's a 3.

Same issue here. We've started recruiting more and more out of state as a way to get around it. Majority of our commitments are from Texas, Alabama, and Georgia.
Don't hog them all A-State! We're trying to build a FBS program over here...
The services are frustrating because:

A. They reward quantity as well as quality. Others will catch up as they fill their classes.
B. The commits who stay true and don't shop around will not get their due "stars" because they are not on the market.

That said, we are thrilled to have so many commits this early as it is an indication that the staff is getting guys they really want and not having to scurry. A lot of great players are found in a rush to fill a class at the end as wel though.

This young staff, the recent string of championships, the numerous facility projects and the visible support of the community have really created a great situation for recruiting. We have to keep going to post-season to keep the momentum. Everyone is one bad hire or one key injury away from losing that momentum.
Good job stAte!
Cracked the top 50!

On a side note, I don't think I have ever seen Florida ranked that low.
Now you've got to hold on to and sign 'em come February.
(07-27-2014 10:56 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: [ -> ]http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footbal...amRankings

Only current SBC team with a top 50 class, with 9 *** recruits. Next closest is #87 USA with 4 ***. It's still early but Arkansas State's current class actually ranks above all AAC teams right now except for Cincy!

How are you pulling that off with such a small market size?03-wink

Killing it fo sho! 04-bow

GaSou it starting to pick up but not a lot of rated kids. Signing this many kids so early is new for me as a GaSou fan as I found out most of our recruits on signing day in the FCS. I doubt many of our recruits have been evaluated yet..I'm hoping anyways! Seems like our coach high a pretty high standard last year to the point holding schollies, just trusting he is just ahead of the ratings curve at this point.
TXST just got a transfer from Utah St (QB) and one from UT. Both will have to sit this year, though.

Quote:Earlier this spring, Micah Thomas (a 3*) was told by the Utah Coaching Staff that he would be getting moved from QB to WR. In hopes of still playing QB, he decided to transfer closer to home and has chosen Texas State.

Easy Anyama only ran track at UT but will put on the pads at TXST. He had originally committed to TXST but went with the track scholly at UT. Will sit this year and be a RS soph in 2015. He could play a variety of positions, at the coaches discretion.

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(07-29-2014 05:22 PM)JCGSU Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2014 10:56 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: [ -> ]http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Footbal...amRankings

Only current SBC team with a top 50 class, with 9 *** recruits. Next closest is #87 USA with 4 ***. It's still early but Arkansas State's current class actually ranks above all AAC teams right now except for Cincy!

How are you pulling that off with such a small market size?03-wink

Killing it fo sho! 04-bow

GaSou it starting to pick up but not a lot of rated kids. Signing this many kids so early is new for me as a GaSou fan as I found out most of our recruits on signing day in the FCS. I doubt many of our recruits have been evaluated yet..I'm hoping anyways! Seems like our coach high a pretty high standard last year to the point holding schollies, just trusting he is just ahead of the ratings curve at this point.

We're cheating of course...all the cool kids do it!
NCAA By-law 14.5.5.2.10 is known as the One-Time Transfer Exception. This by-law permits a student-athlete at a four-year college or university to transfer to another four-year college or university without being required to sit out a year in his or her sport.

There are certain requirements for this exception to apply. Specifically, the exception can only be used once for an athlete, the athlete must be in good academic standing and meet certain progress towards degree requirements, and the institution from which the athlete is transferring must state in writing that it has no objection to the waiver (often referred to as a "release").

In addition, the student-athlete may not be a participant in basketball (men's or women's), men's ice hockey or Division I-A football at the institution to which the student-athlete is transferring. In other words, the exception does not apply for football, basketball and men's hockey players. These student-athletes are generally required to sit out a year.


Can one of you NCAA guru's explain this to me? I am under the impression that Easy can not play football this year as, although he is not transferring to run track, he will be playing football so he can't suit up this year? It's a bit confusing.
(07-29-2014 10:31 PM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]NCAA By-law 14.5.5.2.10 is known as the One-Time Transfer Exception. This by-law permits a student-athlete at a four-year college or university to transfer to another four-year college or university without being required to sit out a year in his or her sport.

There are certain requirements for this exception to apply. Specifically, the exception can only be used once for an athlete, the athlete must be in good academic standing and meet certain progress towards degree requirements, and the institution from which the athlete is transferring must state in writing that it has no objection to the waiver (often referred to as a "release").

In addition, the student-athlete may not be a participant in basketball (men's or women's), men's ice hockey or Division I-A football at the institution to which the student-athlete is transferring. In other words, the exception does not apply for football, basketball and men's hockey players. These student-athletes are generally required to sit out a year.


Can one of you NCAA guru's explain this to me? I am under the impression that Easy can not play football this year as, although he is not transferring to run track, he will be playing football so he can't suit up this year? It's a bit confusing.

Have to sit out a year when you transfer from FBS to FBS. But, you can apply for a hardship waiver and sometimes (seemingly randomly) the NCAA will allow the player to be eligible immediately if you convince them you are moving close to home with a good enough reason.

A-State got the waiver for AJ Turner (Home Town 40 Minutes from Jonesboro, don't know "family circumstances"), who transferred from Arkansas. So he won't have to sit out a year. Well if he makes high enough grades in his last summer school classes he won't have to sit out, but that is a different matter altogether!

Only other way to transfer FBS to FBS without sitting a year is to graduate and find a school offering a master's program your school doesn't. Like Adam Kennedy for stAte or Russell Wilson from NC State to Wisconsin.

No idea what happens when the player changes sports.



Incidentally, stAte just found out a 3* Punter from Pine Bluff, Arkansas that singed with Purdue in February '14 was miserable there, and got his release. He is on campus in Jonesboro and has applied for the NCAA waiver so he can be eligible to play this fall. Who knows if it will be granted.
You guys ARE on fire!

But don't forget...

App is hot, HoT, HO..... oh yeah.
(07-29-2014 10:31 PM)CatMom Wrote: [ -> ]NCAA By-law 14.5.5.2.10 is known as the One-Time Transfer Exception. This by-law permits a student-athlete at a four-year college or university to transfer to another four-year college or university without being required to sit out a year in his or her sport.

There are certain requirements for this exception to apply. Specifically, the exception can only be used once for an athlete, the athlete must be in good academic standing and meet certain progress towards degree requirements, and the institution from which the athlete is transferring must state in writing that it has no objection to the waiver (often referred to as a "release").

In addition, the student-athlete may not be a participant in basketball (men's or women's), men's ice hockey or Division I-A football at the institution to which the student-athlete is transferring. In other words, the exception does not apply for football, basketball and men's hockey players. These student-athletes are generally required to sit out a year.


Can one of you NCAA guru's explain this to me? I am under the impression that Easy can not play football this year as, although he is not transferring to run track, he will be playing football so he can't suit up this year? It's a bit confusing.

I think you've got it. In any sport except football basketball and men's hockey, a player does not have to sit out a year the first time they transfer as long as they get a release from their old school.
USA had a star softball player transfer to Auburn after the 12-13 season and she was beyond angry when she was not granted a release and had to sit out this year.
Since your guy is going to be on football scholarship, he does have to sit out whether he gets a release or not.
3* Punter is a good get! special teams, and flipping field position is a major part of winning games. 04-cheers
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