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So for discussion...I was pondering this the other day.

What is stopping major corporations from staring a pro league and fielding their own teams? Instead of advertising at a pro stadium etc why not skip the middle man and just start your own league?

The Walmart Merchants
The Halliburton Oilers
The P&G Atoms

whatever....you get the point.

These corporations could build their own stadiums and have their own teams. Probably in the city they are headquartered in I assume, or some desirable market anyway.

With the money these corps make they could probably lure the best NFL players and then it would get really interesting.

Why doesn't this happen?

Discuss

(07-27-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]So for discussion...I was pondering this the other day.

What is stopping major corporations from staring a pro league and fielding their own teams? Instead of advertising at a pro stadium etc why not skip the middle man and just start your own league?

The Walmart Merchants
The Halliburton Oilers
The P&G Atoms

whatever....you get the point.

These corporations could build their own stadiums and have their own teams. Probably in the city they are headquartered in I assume, or some desirable market anyway.

With the money these corps make they could probably lure the best NFL players and then it would get really interesting.

Why doesn't this happen?

Discuss

I'm no expert but,

Oh the obvious things.

Start-up costs, Cost of Employees, Medical Insurance, Rent/property Cost and tax, Transportation, etc. etc...

(07-27-2014 10:39 AM)USFRamenu Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-27-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]So for discussion...I was pondering this the other day.

What is stopping major corporations from staring a pro league and fielding their own teams? Instead of advertising at a pro stadium etc why not skip the middle man and just start your own league?

The Walmart Merchants
The Halliburton Oilers
The P&G Atoms

whatever....you get the point.

These corporations could build their own stadiums and have their own teams. Probably in the city they are headquartered in I assume, or some desirable market anyway.

With the money these corps make they could probably lure the best NFL players and then it would get really interesting.

Why doesn't this happen?

Discuss

I'm no expert but,

Oh the obvious things.

Start-up costs, Cost of Employees, Medical Insurance, Rent/property Cost and tax, Transportation, etc. etc...

Exactly, it is more cost effective to simply put their name on the shirts of sports teams. Take a look at what they do in European football (soccer).

Chevrolet now has their symbol and name upon Manchester United. We see MLS following the tradition of World Soccer and having title sponsors get their symbol and/or name on the jerseys.

When MLS becomes more popular here and those sponsorship spots start becoming very costly to obtain, you will start to have the likes of the NBA, MLB and maybe even the NFL looking at such methods of making huge sums of easy money.

Why start your own team as a Corporation when all you have to do is push for MLS to make it big here so that the sponsorship culture of Soccer permeates into the rest of sports culture in this country?

Starting up a new league is big hassle. New leagues usually fail. Walmart, Microsoft, Wells Fargo etc don't know squat about running a sports team or a sports league and they know that. Vince McMahon at least knows live stadium events, and his league failed.

If this comes to pass, it will be by existing leagues being more accepting. I remember I think the Arena Football League Detroit Neons, or some such, named after the Plymouth Neon line. I also remember around ten years ago pushes by KFC and FedEx to buy the Vancouver Grizzlies, move them and rename them either the Kentucky Colonels or the Memphis Express and use the KFC/FedEx colors and branding etc. (NBA HQ squashed that, never mind whether FedEx really wanted years of "Express Fails to Deliver/Runs Out of Time/etc" headlines.)

(07-27-2014 11:42 AM)johnbragg Wrote: [ -> ]Starting up a new league is big hassle. New leagues usually fail. Walmart, Microsoft, Wells Fargo etc don't know squat about running a sports team or a sports league and they know that. Vince McMahon at least knows live stadium events, and his league failed.

If this comes to pass, it will be by existing leagues being more accepting. I remember I think the Arena Football League Detroit Neons, or some such, named after the Plymouth Neon line. I also remember around ten years ago pushes by KFC and FedEx to buy the Vancouver Grizzlies, move them and rename them either the Kentucky Colonels or the Memphis Express and use the KFC/FedEx colors and branding etc. (NBA HQ squashed that, never mind whether FedEx really wanted years of "Express Fails to Deliver/Runs Out of Time/etc" headlines.)

Arena League had a team like that with the Miami Hooters but the Detroit teams were called the Drive/Fury.

The Kentucky Colonels were an ABA team that folded after the ABA-NBA merger. I think the Express was the one the NBA had a problem with.

(07-27-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]So for discussion...I was pondering this the other day.

What is stopping major corporations from staring a pro league and fielding their own teams? Instead of advertising at a pro stadium etc why not skip the middle man and just start your own league?

The Walmart Merchants
The Halliburton Oilers
The P&G Atoms

whatever....you get the point.

These corporations could build their own stadiums and have their own teams. Probably in the city they are headquartered in I assume, or some desirable market anyway.

With the money these corps make they could probably lure the best NFL players and then it would get really interesting.

Why doesn't this happen?

Discuss

New York Red Bulls franchise in MLS is owned by the Red Bull energy drink company.

Other companies might shy away from naming the team after the company for the reason John alluded to. Imagine you're the CEO of a multibillion dollar company, and every numbskull talking head on ESPN is making fun of your company name because you put your company name and logos on a 2-14 NFL team.

good input fellas....

weren't there quite a few "major" professional baseball leagues back in the 1890s, 1900s??

The teams of these new started up leagues would likely have to be in cities other than where the major professional sports teams are located. And what would make said basketball, baseball, football new league different than what is already established?

Why not? Jonathan E.

(07-27-2014 03:06 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Why not? Jonathan E.

I saw what you did there.

Energy, IIRC

(07-27-2014 12:16 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]New York Red Bulls franchise in MLS is owned by the Red Bull energy drink company.

Other companies might shy away from naming the team after the company for the reason John alluded to. Imagine you're the CEO of a multibillion dollar company, and every numbskull talking head on ESPN is making fun of your company name because you put your company name and logos on a 2-14 NFL team.

Beat me to it. Maybe one day McDonald's will capitalize on the Denver Nuggets name and rename them the McNuggets via naming rights. Ditto for Ford and the Broncos (heck, I'm surprised they don't buy the naming rights to their stadium and call it Ford Bronco Stadium).

This idea isn't as crazy as it sounds. All of the teams in Japan's Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) are owned by corporations.

The funniest name (for English speakers) is the Nippon Ham Fighters. The mascot isn't "Ham Fighters" ; rather, it's the "Fighters," and the team is sponsored by the Nippon Ham Company.

(07-27-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]So for discussion...I was pondering this the other day.

What is stopping major corporations from staring a pro league and fielding their own teams? Instead of advertising at a pro stadium etc why not skip the middle man and just start your own league?

The Walmart Merchants
The Halliburton Oilers
The P&G Atoms

whatever....you get the point.

These corporations could build their own stadiums and have their own teams. Probably in the city they are headquartered in I assume, or some desirable market anyway.

With the money these corps make they could probably lure the best NFL players and then it would get really interesting.

Why doesn't this happen?

Discuss

New York Redbulls

(07-27-2014 09:21 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-27-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]So for discussion...I was pondering this the other day.

What is stopping major corporations from staring a pro league and fielding their own teams? Instead of advertising at a pro stadium etc why not skip the middle man and just start your own league?

The Walmart Merchants
The Halliburton Oilers
The P&G Atoms

whatever....you get the point.

These corporations could build their own stadiums and have their own teams. Probably in the city they are headquartered in I assume, or some desirable market anyway.

With the money these corps make they could probably lure the best NFL players and then it would get really interesting.

Why doesn't this happen?

Discuss

New York Redbulls

Green Bay Packers

Ya'll seem really bored! Relax football games start in 33 days and NCAA practice starts in two weeks.

(07-27-2014 03:06 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Why not? Jonathan E.

Corporate decisions are made by corporations. Corporations make corporate decisions. - Talking Cube of Water

What if sports teams started doing this?

Corporations aren't going to line up to do this because they don't want the hassle it brings to their brand.

Not many Quaker State Eagles fans are going to use AT&T when they hate the AT&T Cowboys and Allstate Bears fans aren't going to flock to Target when they lose the division to the Target Vikings.

Sponsorships work fine because they cost far less and you can sponsor many teams without opposing fans associating your brand closely to that team.

(08-06-2014 07:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Corporations aren't going to line up to do this because they don't want the hassle it brings to their brand.

Not many Quaker State Eagles fans are going to use AT&T when they hate the AT&T Cowboys and Allstate Bears fans aren't going to flock to Target when they lose the division to the Target Vikings.

Creative.