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Browns WR Gordon charged with DWI in NC

AP | Associated Press

Published July 5, 2014 04:05PM EDT

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Police say Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon was arrested and charged with driving while intoxicated after speeding down a street in Raleigh.

Police spokesman Jim Sughrue said Gordon was taken into custody after being pulled over for going 50 mph in a 35 mph zone on U.S. 70 in northwest Raleigh around 3 a.m. Saturday.

Gordon was released on bail. Court records did not list an attorney.

The 23-year-old Pro Bowl wide receiver has been in trouble before off the field. He missed two games last season for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy and reportedly failed another drug test during the offseason, which could lead to a season-long ban.

Browns General Manager Ray Farmer said the team is aware of the arrest and is disappointed. He didn't comment further.

http://www.rr.com/articles/2014/07/05/b/...-dwi-in-nc
Not sure ctipton why this is posted in the smack forum but Josh Gordon has an addiction problem and it is so sad to see. He has immense talent and he is wasting it literally. He needs help before he hurts himself, or even worse, someone else. Unfortunately, he has yet to admit or accept he has an addiction problem. Only when he does can he begin to willingly seek help to hopefully overcome it.

Quote: Former Browns linebacker D'Qwell Jackson, now with the Colts, tweeted, "If you're close to Josh Gordon, please help this kid. It's not about football anymore. It's about picking up the pieces of his life.''
I posted this here because I live in Cincinnati and not Cleveland. I have no respect for Cleveland or anything in Cleveland. Therefore it is not on the Off Topic, as most things are. It goes here with the Suckeyes, Stealers and Baltimore Nosepickers.

This isn't about Gordon (although I have no respect for him either), it is a diatribe on Cleveland. OK?

Do not expect to find anything pro-Browns on our boards. That would be like rooting for the Cardinals.
(07-05-2014 10:40 PM)ctipton Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this here because I live in Cincinnati and not Cleveland. I have no respect for Cleveland or anything in Cleveland. Therefore it is not on the Off Topic, as most things are. It goes here with the Suckeyes, Stealers and Baltimore Nosepickers.

This isn't about Gordon (although I have no respect for him either), it is a diatribe on Cleveland. OK?

Do not expect to find anything pro-Browns on our boards. That would be like rooting for the Cardinals.

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(07-05-2014 10:40 PM)ctipton Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this here because I live in Cincinnati and not Cleveland. I have no respect for Cleveland or anything in Cleveland. Therefore it is not on the Off Topic, as most things are. It goes here with the Suckeyes, Stealers and Baltimore Nosepickers.

This isn't about Gordon (although I have no respect for him either), it is a diatribe on Cleveland. OK?

Do not expect to find anything pro-Browns on our boards. That would be like rooting for the Cardinals.

I understand not expecting anything "Pro-Browns" posted on these boards. However, I can relate to drug and alcohol addiction as several members of my family have struggled with this in their lives. I have seen first hand the pain and problems this has caused them. So, when it comes to this subject it hits home. Ok? Carry-on with the Cleveland diatribe.....
I am no Browns fan but Bengals fans shouldn't throw stones.... do names like Stanley Wilson and Chris Henry ring a bell?
Not lately, and this isn't a history class. This is pound on Cleveland while I have a chance.
Cris Carter: Browns should cut Josh Gordon in wake of arrest

Posted: Mon Jul. 7, 2014

Former NFL receiver Cris Carter, who has overcome addictions to alcohol and cocaine in his past, said Monday on ESPN's Mike and Mike that the Cleveland Browns should cut troubled receiver Josh Gordon in the wake of his DUI arrest early Saturday.

Carter expanded on his comments to cleveland.com, telling the site Gordon needs to have football taken away from him in order to deal with his substance abuse issues.

More from Carter:

"Obviously the support system he has now doesn't work, so I would develop a new support team and it wouldn't be with the Browns. It would be people like myself, it would be people like (former NBA star and addiction specialist) John Lucas, and other NFL players. I'd have him go somewhere.

"Gordon needs to save his life now. He needs to learn to live substance-free, and the team isn't going to be able to help him do that now. If he wants to play football, he's going to have to show substantial progress in the next year for the NFL to allow him to play ever again."


Following a second reported violation of the NFL's substance abuse policy this offseason, the third-year pro is currently facing a hearing, reportedly scheduled for late July, to determine if he'll be suspended for the entire 2014 season or if he'll face a reduced punishment.

Gordon was suspended for two games last season after his first substance abuse violation and also failed at least three drug tests in college while playing for Baylor.

He came back from the suspension last season to lead the NFL with 1,646 receiving yards on 87 catches and added nine touchdowns.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/07/cris-ca...nl_siextra
Josh Gordon's story less about football, more about unraveling life

by Doug Farrar

Posted: Sat Jul. 5, 2014

No matter how talented an athlete is, there can be times when it's not about sports anymore. It's about life, and trying to live it, and praying you can succeed in the face of the obstacles set forth by the world, by fate, or by one's self. Cleveland Browns receiver Josh Gordon is one of the five most talented people in the world who does what he does, and right now, that couldn't possibly matter less.

At 23, Gordon is watching his career slip away. As so many people in so many fields have done before him, Gordon seems not only helpless to curb his own demise, he's an active participant in its acceleration. On Saturday morning, Gordon was arrested for driving while impaired in Raleigh, N.C. He was held in the Wake County Detention Center, and at this point, such a place might be the safest place for him.

Gordon was already in the process of appealing the reported one-year suspension handed down to him by the NFL in May after a drug test came back positive for marijuana. Gordon had already been suspended for the first two games of the 2013 season because of a positive test for codeine, and the most recent occurrence put him in the league's crosshairs as a Stage 3 offender of the NFL's drug policy. News of the year-long suspension came less than 24 hours after the Browns drafted Johnny Manziel in the first round. The hope was for a new aerial attack in which Manziel would be making play after play with Gordon as his primary target.

But this isn't about sports anymore. It's about Gordon's life, and what it's going to look like in a year. Two years. Five years. How long does he have? He was suspended indefinitely by the Baylor football program before the 2011 season after a marijuana arrest, transferred to Utah, and was selected by the Browns in the 2012 supplemental draft. Gordon's story whipsawed back to football when, in just 14 games and with a rotation of less than impressive quarterbacks, he caught 87 passes for a league-leading 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns in 2013. For a brief moment, Gordon seemed to be holding onto the promise he made soon after the Browns took a shot on him.

"Despite everything I've been through, despite being a kid with a spotty background, the Cleveland Browns stuck their neck out and risked taking me and put their faith and belief in me, and I won't let them down," Gordon said in his first encounter with the Cleveland media in July 2012. "I'm grateful, and I know I can't go back to being the person I used to be."

Those who had played with Gordon, like Baylor teammate Robert Griffin III, could only hope for the best.

"He's been a kid that's been in a bunch of unfortunate situations," Griffin told former SI scribe Mike Silver and myself around that same time, "and he knows that he was the reason that those [situations] happened. So I think any team that gets him, of course they're gonna feel like they're rolling the dice on the kid. I think that in the end, he'll be successful if he wants to be successful. That's all on him. And he knows that. He knows he's used up all his chances and everybody's watching him."

The watching is not working.

"I've definitely learned from this," Gordon concluded back then. "It's been a long road, but I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel after today. Looking back, it was something that had to happen in order for this to even take place. I promise the Browns won't regret this."

We hear about these falls from reclamation all the time. We see public figures fall from grace, and get all dirty when they try to climb back up, only to fail over and over again. We feel compassion to a point, we most likely sneer a bit at the idea that a person with this much talent would choose to waste it, and we wonder in this case who Johnny Football is going to throw to when he takes the field this year.

"We have to build a football team that can win regardless of who is missing,'' Browns general manager Ray Farmer said in May. "I think that's the charge that we have. That's my job, coach [Mike] Pettine's job is to prepare this football team to win games regardless of who's missing."

None of that helps Josh Gordon, of course, because he has to want help, or that help has to be forced upon him in a way that meets a desire to get better. Most certainly, any chance at a reduction in his suspension at his July appeal is out the window if this most recent charge sticks, and there are some who wonder if Gordon will ever play football again. Some believe that if Gordon is taken away from the support system a team provides for that long, he'll drift further and further away, and that will be that, in whatever sense.

Which seems very likely, and it's not really the Browns' problem. It's Gordon's problem. Sadly, he appears to be the only one who doesn't understand that he's already missing -- and on track to find himself lost completely.

Hall of Fame receiver Cris Carter, who has become an advocate for athletes like himself who struggled with substance abuse issues at one time, told the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the real slippery slope is that the person under that spell must want the help before it will happen.

"Some players run away from the help as opposed to running to the help. Most of these kids, they don't want to have a heart-to-heart conversation. They've got enough people lecturing them and telling them what they should be doing.

"Unless you've talked to Josh, you don't know where he is," says Carter. "Just like no one could explain my story, no one's going to be able to explain his.''

Carter didn't figure it out until he was cut by the Eagles in 1990. We don't yet know how many brick walls Gordon will have to crash into -- figuratively, at this point -- before it hurts enough to stop.

As Carter said, not everybody is in a position to be saved.

http://www.si.com/2014/07/05/josh-gordon...eling-life
these guys are quick:



(07-05-2014 10:40 PM)ctipton Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this here because I live in Cincinnati and not Cleveland. I have no respect for Cleveland or anything in Cleveland. Therefore it is not on the Off Topic, as most things are. It goes here with the Suckeyes, Stealers and Baltimore Nosepickers.

This isn't about Gordon (although I have no respect for him either), it is a diatribe on Cleveland. OK?

Do not expect to find anything pro-Browns on our boards. That would be like rooting for the Cardinals.

Cleveland did land the Republican National Convention, whereas Cincinnati not so much...
(07-09-2014 07:20 AM)bearcatmill Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-05-2014 10:40 PM)ctipton Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this here because I live in Cincinnati and not Cleveland. I have no respect for Cleveland or anything in Cleveland. Therefore it is not on the Off Topic, as most things are. It goes here with the Suckeyes, Stealers and Baltimore Nosepickers.

This isn't about Gordon (although I have no respect for him either), it is a diatribe on Cleveland. OK?

Do not expect to find anything pro-Browns on our boards. That would be like rooting for the Cardinals.

Cleveland did land the Republican National Convention, whereas Cincinnati not so much...

Because of their basketball arena. That's the only reason.
(07-09-2014 08:35 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-09-2014 07:20 AM)bearcatmill Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-05-2014 10:40 PM)ctipton Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this here because I live in Cincinnati and not Cleveland. I have no respect for Cleveland or anything in Cleveland. Therefore it is not on the Off Topic, as most things are. It goes here with the Suckeyes, Stealers and Baltimore Nosepickers.

This isn't about Gordon (although I have no respect for him either), it is a diatribe on Cleveland. OK?

Do not expect to find anything pro-Browns on our boards. That would be like rooting for the Cardinals.

Cleveland did land the Republican National Convention, whereas Cincinnati not so much...

Because of their basketball arena. That's the only reason.

It apparently isn't just the arena. Article in the Enquirer today said Cleveland has invested $4.5 billion in their downtown over the past 10 years.
How much has Cincinnati invested in The Banks, Gateway and Riverfront.

My guess is it is not too far from that number and we are not finished.
Josh Gordon defense plan outlined
Updated: July 29, 2014, 5:56 PM ET
By Adam Schefter | ESPN

The legal team for Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon will argue in a hearing Friday that its client has disputed test results that were caused from secondhand marijuana smoke, according to sources.

Gordon is appealing the NFL's imposition of a yearlong suspension for a positive test for marijuana.

Gordon's legal team will argue that the positive tests are so marginal that they show uncertainty as to whether the test results were truly positive, and even if so, were the result of exposure to secondhand smoke, according to sources familiar with the case.

Gordon's "A" sample tested at 16 nanograms per milliliter, a bare one nanogram per milliliter above the 15-nanogram-per-milliliter threshold, while Gordon's "B" sample -- which should theoretically be consistent with the "A" sample, as it comes from the exact same specimen -- tested at 13.63 ng/ml, lower than the threshold.

With both samples coming from the same specimen test, the results should be consistent. Gordon's attorneys do not believe their client should be suspended for a year for differing disputed test results, especially when only one was barely higher than the threshold, sources said.

Gordon's attorneys also plan to introduce witnesses who will testify that Gordon's scores indicate he was the victim of breathing in secondhand smoke, according to sources. The league has maintained that it does not intend to suspend players for secondhand smoke.

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Josh Gordon's legal team plans to point out inconsistencies between his two test samples that could be due to secondhand smoke, sources say. AP Photo/Mark Duncan

Scientific studies have shown that secondhand smoke exposure can result in the kind of test results similar to those of Gordon. Because of this, Gordon's test results would have been negative for marijuana if considered under other professional sports testing regimens -- including the strict Olympic standard and Major League Baseball -- the federal workplace testing standards and various state testing standards, including California and Nevada, which govern boxing and MMA.

And lastly, Gordon's attorneys also will point out that with their client being subject to over 70 drug tests, there was only one time since his rookie year that a test came back positive for marijuana, and even then, the "A" and "B" samples did not match.

Gordon's arrest in early July in North Carolina was a DWI charge, which is unrelated to the proceedings surrounding his positive marijuana test. It cannot and will not be factored into any discipline that is doled out to Gordon over this violation.

Gordon is facing the indefinite one-year ban for violating the league's substance-abuse policy for at least the third time. If he loses, he'll have to wait a year to apply for reinstatement. Last season, Gordon was suspended two games and docked four game checks for testing positive for what he said was codeine in his prescribed cough medicine.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/112814...juana-test
Good luck with that.
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