http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/2014.pdf
The ACC had a record high average attendance for the conference of 10,661. This was second to the Big Ten, which had a record high average attendance for all conferences at 13,534.
The ACC average moved up from 5th in attendance last year (2012-2013) to 2nd this year. The ACC was obviously bolstered by Syracuse, while breakthrough seasons at Nebraska made their attendance have the biggest average increase in the nation.
The ACC Tournament led all conferences in average attendance at 20,020 per session. Of note, Big East Tournament attendance was down an average of 5,501 per session, or a loss of 67,620 in overall attendance (albeit with 2 less sessions).
individual schools' national ranks and home averages:
1. Syracuse 26,253
3. Louisville 21,282
4. UNC 18,025
25. NCSU 12,641
26. UMD 12,557
30. UVA 11,684
33. Pitt 11,004
46. Duke 9,314
47. Wake 9,000
55. ND 8,366
64. Clemson 7,486
75. GT 6,584
82. FSU 6,285
93. Miami 5,778
>100. Virginia Tech 4,812
>100. BC 4,007
The BIG attendance is remarkable. Props to them. Im also amazed at SU's attendance increase of an average of 3800 per game from just last season. I wonder how long the excitement of the newness of the ACC will last. I also wonder how much Louisville will help close the attendance gap between the ACC and Big when Maryland and Rutgers get to the BIG and lower their average while Louisville will raise the Acc average. Louisville has almost a 10,000 average per game over Maryland. That should help a lot.
(06-28-2014 08:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote: [ -> ]The BIG attendance is remarkable. Props to them. Im also amazed at SU's attendance increase of an average of 3800 per game from just last season. I wonder how long the excitement of the newness of the ACC will last. I also wonder how much Louisville will help close the attendance gap between the ACC and Big when Maryland and Rutgers get to the BIG and lower their average while Louisville will raise the Acc average. Louisville has almost a 10,000 average per game over Maryland. That should help a lot.
The ACC was pretty mediocre this year and the B10 was up and had two break through teams in UNL and Iowa that have been down for a long time. If you took the averages by next year's membership, the difference goes down to 1,881 per game. Considering the differences in school size, it is pretty competitive. I would think VT's attendance could get a big jump next year, but so likely may Rutgers...well maybe not. Some of these have to be taken with a grain of salt. For instance, PSU is not averaging 6K per game. But I guess you have to assume some inflation for everyone. But the ACC could certainly average more attendance once the pendulum swings back to the ACC being up and teams having national rankings.
I think the more interesting story is the drop in BET attendance.
(06-28-2014 08:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote: [ -> ]The BIG attendance is remarkable. Props to them. Im also amazed at SU's attendance increase of an average of 3800 per game from just last season. I wonder how long the excitement of the newness of the ACC will last. I also wonder how much Louisville will help close the attendance gap between the ACC and Big when Maryland and Rutgers get to the BIG and lower their average while Louisville will raise the Acc average. Louisville has almost a 10,000 average per game over Maryland. That should help a lot.
Do you really find the B1G's men's basketball attendance remarkable because I don't think there's any mystery at all to what they're doing. They are almost all HUGE state schools lucky enough to be located in the middle of nowhere. If not for going to a college basketball game, what else are they all going to do for entertainment?
The ACC will NEVER be able to compete with that by the very nature of the size and location of the schools themselves.
(06-28-2014 11:30 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote: [ -> ] (06-28-2014 08:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote: [ -> ]The BIG attendance is remarkable. Props to them. Im also amazed at SU's attendance increase of an average of 3800 per game from just last season. I wonder how long the excitement of the newness of the ACC will last. I also wonder how much Louisville will help close the attendance gap between the ACC and Big when Maryland and Rutgers get to the BIG and lower their average while Louisville will raise the Acc average. Louisville has almost a 10,000 average per game over Maryland. That should help a lot.
Do you really find the B1G's men's basketball attendance remarkable because I don't think there's any mystery at all to what they're doing. They are almost all HUGE state schools lucky enough to be located in the middle of nowhere. If not for going to a college basketball game, what else are they all going to do for entertainment?
The ACC will NEVER be able to compete with that by the very nature of the size and location of the schools themselves.
Yes, I think its remarkable. The SEC and The Big 12 are mostly large State schools too, but they dont average anywhere near 13,000 per game as a conference and they have similar geography being located mostly in the middle of nowhere.
ACC numbers are hurt by our number of smaller stadiums, namely Duke. For being a powerhouse they have a small stadium. If they had a larger stadium I know they could fill it up as well. However, Cameron is something that makes Duke special
At least our average was nearly 6,000. With how crappy we were this past year, this was a good number for an arena that only holds about 8k.
(06-29-2014 01:15 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: [ -> ]At least our average was nearly 6,000. With how crappy we were this past year, this was a good number for an arena that only holds about 8k.
% of capacity is uber important. Between the ACC and B1G, what % of their individual media deals is basketball and what % is football? Anybody know?
There are quite a few schools that are significantly under capacity.
FSU seats close to 13,800 (so they're about -7k)
NCSU seats close to 19,500 (so they're about -7k)
Wake seats close to 14,000 (so they're about -5k)
Va Tech seats close to 10,000 (so they're about -5k)
BC is about -4k
Not enough to catch the B1G, but can definitely close the gap if those numbers improve. Also, Rutgers will drop the B1G avg and replacing Maryland with Louisville will help the ACC.
Here are the conference attendance figures proformed for 2014-15 changes in membership.
Code:
B1G 250 3,185,727 12,743
ACC 269 3,028,536 11,258
B12 171 1,793,617 10,489
SEC 254 2,629,593 10,353
NBE 171 1,660,570 9,711
MWC 190 1,468,700 7,730
P12 217 1,637,406 7,546
AAC 193 1,287,489 6,671
(06-29-2014 01:57 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]There are quite a few schools that are significantly under capacity.
FSU seats close to 13,800 (so they're about -7k)
NCSU seats close to 19,500 (so they're about -7k)
Wake seats close to 14,000 (so they're about -5k)
Va Tech seats close to 10,000 (so they're about -5k)
BC is about -4k
Not enough to catch the B1G, but can definitely close the gap if those numbers improve. Also, Rutgers will drop the B1G avg and replacing Maryland with Louisville will help the ACC.
NC State's attendance was its lowest in ten years, and 3,658 lower than the previous year. I expect they'll do a little better in the future, but not by much. The 2013 number was an outlier for them.
(06-29-2014 01:57 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]There are quite a few schools that are significantly under capacity.
FSU seats close to 13,800 (so they're about -7k)
NCSU seats close to 19,500 (so they're about -7k)
Wake seats close to 14,000 (so they're about -5k)
Va Tech seats close to 10,000 (so they're about -5k)
BC is about -4k
Not enough to catch the B1G, but can definitely close the gap if those numbers improve. Also, Rutgers will drop the B1G avg and replacing Maryland with Louisville will help the ACC.
State had 2 or 3 games severely affected by Ice/Snow storms. Conference games averaged about 14K. The FSU game should have been postponed, but it was played with just 7K people in the stands.
UNC was the only home conference game of real interest last year - no Duke, no Syracuse, no ND,
Having your facility on campus so that the students can walk to the game helps a great deal if you have a significant student population.
All of Wake's students would just fill half of the arena.
Having a good system in place to allow purchased tickets that will not be used to be turned back in also helps.
Weather may have also affected UVa because they only attended at 75% of capacity despite a Championship Year.
Increasingly if it's not an interesting game, or the weather is bad, or people don't like the parking, they stay home and watch in High - Def.
(06-30-2014 11:58 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2014 01:57 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]There are quite a few schools that are significantly under capacity.
FSU seats close to 13,800 (so they're about -7k)
NCSU seats close to 19,500 (so they're about -7k)
Wake seats close to 14,000 (so they're about -5k)
Va Tech seats close to 10,000 (so they're about -5k)
BC is about -4k
Not enough to catch the B1G, but can definitely close the gap if those numbers improve. Also, Rutgers will drop the B1G avg and replacing Maryland with Louisville will help the ACC.
State had 2 or 3 games severely affected by Ice/Snow storms. Conference games averaged about 14K. The FSU game should have been postponed, but it was played with just 7K people in the stands.
UNC was the only home conference game of real interest last year - no Duke, no Syracuse, no ND,
Having your facility on campus so that the students can walk to the game helps a great deal if you have a significant student population.
All of Wake's students would just fill half of the arena.
Having a good system in place to allow purchased tickets that will not be used to be turned back in also helps.
Weather may have also affected UVa because they only attended at 75% of capacity despite a Championship Year.
Increasingly if it's not an interesting game, or the weather is bad, or people don't like the parking, they stay home and watch in High - Def.
And not just for the ACC or for basketball either.