The head of the Big Ten painted a dire picture Friday of what college sports would look like if players were paid.
He said his conference likely would cease to exist and the Rose Bowl probably would not be played.
Jim Delany said the idea of paying players goes against the entire college experience and he couldn't see league members agreeing to it. If some did, he said, they likely would be kicked out of the conference because the move would create an imbalance among schools that could not be resolved.
Really? No more Big 10? No more Rose Bowl? Surely, no one in Cali is buying that load of crap... If that's the case...I say pay the boys!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nnon-trial
(06-20-2014 07:34 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ]The head of the Big Ten painted a dire picture Friday of what college sports would look like if players were paid. He said his conference likely would cease to exist and the Rose Bowl probably would not be played.
Jim Delany said the idea of paying players goes against the entire college experience and he couldn't see league members agreeing to it. If some did, he said, they likely would be kicked out of the conference because the move would create an imbalance among schools that could not be resolved.
Really? No more Big 10? No more Rose Bowl? Surely, no one in Cali is buying that load of crap... If that's the case...I say pay the boys!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nnon-trial
Can these Big 5 commissioners be any more full of it? This is like watching a bad soap opera.
Actually, I can see his point, here how it could happen. The Judge rules against the NCAA and all college players can demand to payed, students that don't about athletic sue to get rid of student fees and win, also athletic departments lose their tax exempt status. Schools that have student fees (their are about 15-20 that don't) lose that money, booster club donations dry up because you won't be to claim that on your taxes anymore. Schools then decide athletics are no longer worth the headache. Of course there is a little more to it, but I don't feel like writing a 2-3k word post about it on a Friday night.
(06-20-2014 08:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, I can see his point, here how it could happen. The Judge rules against the NCAA and all college players can demand to payed, students that don't about athletic sue to get rid of student fees and win, also athletic departments lose their tax exempt status. Schools that have student fees (their are about 15-20 that don't) lose that money, booster club donations dry up because you won't be to claim that on your taxes anymore. Schools then decide athletics are no longer worth the headache. Of course there is a little more to it, but I don't feel like writing a 2-3k word post about it on a Friday night.
If he said the MAC, MWC or even the AAC would cease to exist and the Miami Bowl no longer would be played...ahhhh - ok, MAYBE (not that I agree).
BUT, The BIG 10? The Rose Bowl? "The grand daddy of them all..." as they like to call it. I'm not buying it. The 60K-80K+ will still show up and still throw money at the "blue chip" programs. They are not going anywhere.
Tax breaks stop? I'm not so sure about that either. Heck, the mega church's that have their leaders living in 4 million dollar homes...raking in tons of money every Sunday...plus TV contracts...are still tax exempt.
It may change the way many view the game...it may knock out a few of the little guys...but, the big boys are not going anywhere.
(06-20-2014 07:34 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ]The head of the Big Ten painted a dire picture Friday of what college sports would look like if players were paid. He said his conference likely would cease to exist and the Rose Bowl probably would not be played.
Jim Delany said the idea of paying players goes against the entire college experience and he couldn't see league members agreeing to it. If some did, he said, they likely would be kicked out of the conference because the move would create an imbalance among schools that could not be resolved.
Really? No more Big 10? No more Rose Bowl? Surely, no one in Cali is buying that load of crap... If that's the case...I say pay the boys!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nnon-trial
is he ever sober?
(06-20-2014 09:41 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 08:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, I can see his point, here how it could happen. The Judge rules against the NCAA and all college players can demand to payed, students that don't about athletic sue to get rid of student fees and win, also athletic departments lose their tax exempt status. Schools that have student fees (their are about 15-20 that don't) lose that money, booster club donations dry up because you won't be to claim that on your taxes anymore. Schools then decide athletics are no longer worth the headache. Of course there is a little more to it, but I don't feel like writing a 2-3k word post about it on a Friday night.
If he said the MAC, MWC or even the AAC would cease to exist and the Miami Bowl no longer would be played...ahhhh - ok, MAYBE (not that I agree).
BUT, The BIG 10? The Rose Bowl? "The grand daddy of them all..." as they like to call it. I'm not buying it. The 60K-80K+ will still show up and still throw money at the "blue chip" programs. They are not going anywhere.
Tax breaks stop? I'm not so sure about that either. Heck, the mega church's that have their leaders living in 4 million dollar homes...raking in tons of money every Sunday...plus TV contracts...are still tax exempt.
It may change the way many view the game...it may knock out a few of the little guys...but, the big boys are not going anywhere.
Tax except status would be gone, the athletic departments wouldn't be able say it is an amateur athletic non-profit organization anymore. With that the booster clubs would be in effect dead, no more tax breaks for giving, to make for the lose season tickets would go up by hundred to thousands of dollars depending on their location in stadiums, many wouldn't pay it and do the same (pay many hundreds of dollars more for basketball season tickets, that's not even counting the increase you'd want to have to be able to go after top players.
You forget that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton where long ago the top schools in athletics and football having 7 national titles from 1890-1919. They never offered athletic scholarships, today they are FCS and do not send teams to the FCS play offs.
Right, if OSU started paying players, I'm suuure Delany will be running through brick walls to have them kicked out of the Big 10 ASAP.
(06-20-2014 10:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote: [ -> ]Right, if OSU started paying players, I'm suuure Delany will be running through brick walls to have them kicked out of the Big 10 ASAP.
Oh, no he won't, I was just playing devil's advocate little, in a worst case outcome. The far more likely out come will be nothing more than what many expect, FCA stipends, some other perks though limited, and some other things that go with the autonomy stuff.
(06-20-2014 07:34 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ]The head of the Big Ten painted a dire picture Friday of what college sports would look like if players were paid. He said his conference likely would cease to exist and the Rose Bowl probably would not be played.
Jim Delany said the idea of paying players goes against the entire college experience and he couldn't see league members agreeing to it. If some did, he said, they likely would be kicked out of the conference because the move would create an imbalance among schools that could not be resolved.
Really? No more Big 10? No more Rose Bowl? Surely, no one in Cali is buying that load of crap... If that's the case...I say pay the boys!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nnon-trial
This confirms it now, Jim Delany dude is messed up, mentally challenge.
(06-21-2014 12:26 AM)BigHouston Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 07:34 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ]The head of the Big Ten painted a dire picture Friday of what college sports would look like if players were paid. He said his conference likely would cease to exist and the Rose Bowl probably would not be played.
Jim Delany said the idea of paying players goes against the entire college experience and he couldn't see league members agreeing to it. If some did, he said, they likely would be kicked out of the conference because the move would create an imbalance among schools that could not be resolved.
Really? No more Big 10? No more Rose Bowl? Surely, no one in Cali is buying that load of crap... If that's the case...I say pay the boys!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nnon-trial
This confirms it now, Jim Delany dude is messed up, mentally challenge.
You didn't need that, he went to UNC, case closed.
Bye. I'm sure that OSU, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State would find other conferences.
The NCAA keeps shooting itself in the foot, with every witness.
(06-20-2014 10:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote: [ -> ]Right, if OSU started paying players, I'm suuure Delany will be running through brick walls to have them kicked out of the Big 10 ASAP.
Right, if OSU
stopped paying players, I'm suuure Delany will be running through brick walls to have them kicked out of the Big 10 ASAP
FIFY
i always said it would be the IRS that blew up college athletics. looks like its going to be a judge instead. this will be fun.
(06-20-2014 10:15 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 09:41 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 08:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, I can see his point, here how it could happen. The Judge rules against the NCAA and all college players can demand to payed, students that don't about athletic sue to get rid of student fees and win, also athletic departments lose their tax exempt status. Schools that have student fees (their are about 15-20 that don't) lose that money, booster club donations dry up because you won't be to claim that on your taxes anymore. Schools then decide athletics are no longer worth the headache. Of course there is a little more to it, but I don't feel like writing a 2-3k word post about it on a Friday night.
If he said the MAC, MWC or even the AAC would cease to exist and the Miami Bowl no longer would be played...ahhhh - ok, MAYBE (not that I agree).
BUT, The BIG 10? The Rose Bowl? "The grand daddy of them all..." as they like to call it. I'm not buying it. The 60K-80K+ will still show up and still throw money at the "blue chip" programs. They are not going anywhere.
Tax breaks stop? I'm not so sure about that either. Heck, the mega church's that have their leaders living in 4 million dollar homes...raking in tons of money every Sunday...plus TV contracts...are still tax exempt.
It may change the way many view the game...it may knock out a few of the little guys...but, the big boys are not going anywhere.
Tax except status would be gone, the athletic departments wouldn't be able say it is an amateur athletic non-profit organization anymore. With that the booster clubs would be in effect dead, no more tax breaks for giving, to make for the lose season tickets would go up by hundred to thousands of dollars depending on their location in stadiums, many wouldn't pay it and do the same (pay many hundreds of dollars more for basketball season tickets, that's not even counting the increase you'd want to have to be able to go after top players.
You forget that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton where long ago the top schools in athletics and football having 7 national titles from 1890-1919. They never offered athletic scholarships, today they are FCS and do not send teams to the FCS play offs.
But why allow this industry to be built upon the fallacy of athletic departments being a non- profit entity and the fiction of the "student athlete" while taking in millions of dollars?
(06-21-2014 08:07 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 10:15 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 09:41 PM)GoHouston Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 08:07 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, I can see his point, here how it could happen. The Judge rules against the NCAA and all college players can demand to payed, students that don't about athletic sue to get rid of student fees and win, also athletic departments lose their tax exempt status. Schools that have student fees (their are about 15-20 that don't) lose that money, booster club donations dry up because you won't be to claim that on your taxes anymore. Schools then decide athletics are no longer worth the headache. Of course there is a little more to it, but I don't feel like writing a 2-3k word post about it on a Friday night.
If he said the MAC, MWC or even the AAC would cease to exist and the Miami Bowl no longer would be played...ahhhh - ok, MAYBE (not that I agree).
BUT, The BIG 10? The Rose Bowl? "The grand daddy of them all..." as they like to call it. I'm not buying it. The 60K-80K+ will still show up and still throw money at the "blue chip" programs. They are not going anywhere.
Tax breaks stop? I'm not so sure about that either. Heck, the mega church's that have their leaders living in 4 million dollar homes...raking in tons of money every Sunday...plus TV contracts...are still tax exempt.
It may change the way many view the game...it may knock out a few of the little guys...but, the big boys are not going anywhere.
Tax except status would be gone, the athletic departments wouldn't be able say it is an amateur athletic non-profit organization anymore. With that the booster clubs would be in effect dead, no more tax breaks for giving, to make for the lose season tickets would go up by hundred to thousands of dollars depending on their location in stadiums, many wouldn't pay it and do the same (pay many hundreds of dollars more for basketball season tickets, that's not even counting the increase you'd want to have to be able to go after top players.
You forget that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton where long ago the top schools in athletics and football having 7 national titles from 1890-1919. They never offered athletic scholarships, today they are FCS and do not send teams to the FCS play offs.
But why allow this industry to be built upon the fallacy of athletic departments being a non- profit entity and the fiction of the "student athlete" while taking in millions of dollars?
That was the case not that long ago. Only true in the 3 decades or less.
(06-20-2014 10:41 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-20-2014 10:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote: [ -> ]Right, if OSU started paying players, I'm suuure Delany will be running through brick walls to have them kicked out of the Big 10 ASAP.
Oh, no he won't, I was just playing devil's advocate little, in a worst case outcome. The far more likely out come will be nothing more than what many expect, FCA stipends, some other perks though limited, and some other things that go with the autonomy stuff.
oh I agree with you, my comment was more a jab at Delany than anything else
(06-21-2014 06:59 PM)tigerjeb Wrote: [ -> ]i always said it would be the IRS that blew up college athletics. looks like its going to be a judge instead. this will be fun.
IRS has bigger issues.