06-20-2014, 04:54 PM
06-20-2014, 09:17 PM
We knew this was coming. These clowns in the capitol keep cutting higher ed budgets and Dr. Noland even has made comments about ETSU having to shift towards a "private school" funding model.
The reality is it's time to start cutting programs that produce worthless degrees that lead to people selling used records or working low end jobs and shift to career based majors that lead to graduates who earn higher incomes.
The reality is it's time to start cutting programs that produce worthless degrees that lead to people selling used records or working low end jobs and shift to career based majors that lead to graduates who earn higher incomes.
06-21-2014, 08:15 AM
(06-20-2014 09:17 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote: [ -> ]We knew this was coming. These clowns in the capitol keep cutting higher ed budgets and Dr. Noland even has made comments about ETSU having to shift towards a "private school" funding model.
The reality is it's time to start cutting programs that produce worthless degrees that lead to people selling used records or working low end jobs and shift to career based majors that lead to graduates who earn higher incomes.
Will there ever be any restored state funding again, or will the ever increasing costs of health care continue to gobble up state budgets? I read where UVA, and I'm sure others, are entering into more and more deals with the cooperate America. At some point, perhaps now, the return on the investment for certain degrees, as you point out, cannot be recovered in the job market. And, college sports are about to be greatly altered as a result of the power five conferences moves. They're going to corner more and more of the money by NCAA legislative design, leaving the non-power five conference schools with some major decisions and adjustments going forward with relation to finance.
06-21-2014, 11:01 AM
(06-21-2014 08:15 AM)Buc66 Wrote: [ -> ](06-20-2014 09:17 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote: [ -> ]We knew this was coming. These clowns in the capitol keep cutting higher ed budgets and Dr. Noland even has made comments about ETSU having to shift towards a "private school" funding model.
The reality is it's time to start cutting programs that produce worthless degrees that lead to people selling used records or working low end jobs and shift to career based majors that lead to graduates who earn higher incomes.
Will there ever be any restored state funding again, or will the ever increasing costs of health care continue to gobble up state budgets? I read where UVA, and I'm sure others, are entering into more and more deals with the cooperate America. At some point, perhaps now, the return on the investment for certain degrees, as you point out, cannot be recovered in the job market. And, college sports are about to be greatly altered as a result of the power five conferences moves. They're going to corner more and more of the money by NCAA legislative design, leaving the non-power five conference schools with some major decisions and adjustments going forward with relation to finance.
I believe that the TN Promise legislation will have a bigger impact on ETSU athletics budget than the NCAA moves.
06-21-2014, 03:39 PM
Funding is based more on graduation completion rated as opposed to the old head count formula. The Tennessee Promise is a last dollar award, so the real beneficiaries are those that either have little Pell money or don't have access to Hope scholarship or other academic scholarship dollars. I think the Tennessee Promise just helps ETSU recruit higher qualified and less risky first time students while opening the door to maximize graduation rates with the two year students who will matriculate to the 4 year institutions.
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06-21-2014, 04:31 PM
Funding is based on about 10 different things now, completion rate is one component. Headcount still matters for budgeting purposes, and the per student athletics fees.
Yes, the TN Promise is a last dollar award in terms of any scholarships earned are applied before the TN Promise money kicks in. However, the legislation alters the HOPE scholarships, providing less money during the first two years and more money during the second two years. The only way that ETSU will be able to sustain the current level of freshman and sophomores is to start offering associates degrees (as Austin Peay does), or start offering enough scholarships to high school seniors to entice them to come.
Yes, the TN Promise is a last dollar award in terms of any scholarships earned are applied before the TN Promise money kicks in. However, the legislation alters the HOPE scholarships, providing less money during the first two years and more money during the second two years. The only way that ETSU will be able to sustain the current level of freshman and sophomores is to start offering associates degrees (as Austin Peay does), or start offering enough scholarships to high school seniors to entice them to come.
06-21-2014, 05:59 PM
(06-21-2014 04:31 PM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]Funding is based on about 10 different things now, completion rate is one component. Headcount still matters for budgeting purposes, and the per student athletics fees.
Yes, the TN Promise is a last dollar award in terms of any scholarships earned are applied before the TN Promise money kicks in. However, the legislation alters the HOPE scholarships, providing less money during the first two years and more money during the second two years. The only way that ETSU will be able to sustain the current level of freshman and sophomores is to start offering associates degrees (as Austin Peay does), or start offering enough scholarships to high school seniors to entice them to come.
Can TN Promise withstand a court challenge? Giving out money to freshmen and sophomores in one part of your higher education system while denying it to the same group in another part of that system doesn't seem to pass the equity, equal treatment, and equal protection test.
06-21-2014, 08:14 PM
Yes, it'll pass.