Figured this would go over well...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201406..._gay_.html
Quote:Pasko, it turns out, has wrapped his arms around a long-term trend: In a broad range of social settings, more men are embracing, well, embracing. It's also triggering awkward moments, as hug-happy millennials encounter older men who have long measured their machismo by their palm-crushing handshakes.
"I think previous generations were more afraid to show affection to other males, because it was viewed as nonmasculine or something," Pasko said. "But bromance is in our common vernacular now, so I don't think people are too afraid of it anymore."
The rise in hugging can be directly traced to declines in homophobia, according to Mark McCormack, a University of Durham (England) sociologist who has studied the behavior of young men in the United States and the United Kingdom.
"These guys don't care whether other people perceive them as gay. In the '80s and '90s, if you were perceived as gay, you'd face huge stigma for it. You'd get marginalized and insulted," he said. Now, he says, "gender behavior isn't regulated in the same way."
Unless it is my dad or brother, hugging me is a good way to get popped in the mouth is you are a male.
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My friends hug all the time. If you don't hug because you just like your personal space that's fine.
If you don't like hugging friends because you assign with it a sexual overtone or think it's "gay" then you have your own set of problems.
There are proper times to full-on hug men. Sports triumph (playing or spectating), death, a person you haven't seen in a long time, family and that's it. Actually men in the church and fraternities do it all the time, and they're old.
The hand clasp, one arm hug is always acceptable.
(06-11-2014 05:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote: [ -> ]My friends hug all the time. If you don't hug because you just like your personal space that's fine.
If you don't like hugging friends because you assign with it a sexual overtone or think it's "gay" then you have your own set of problems.
Yep...I'd say this is the norm.
I always thought it was odd one of my granddads would only shake hands, and then, it always felt like an attempt to break my hand.
Hugging =/= cuddling. Two completely different messages are being sent.
The only males I'll hug are my dad and my brother. It takes a funeral or a wedding for me to hug another male. I'm not even a fan of handshakes. A what's up is what you're likely going to get from me.
(06-11-2014 05:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote: [ -> ]My friends hug all the time. If you don't hug because you just like your personal space that's fine.
If you don't like hugging friends because you assign with it a sexual overtone or think it's "gay" then you have your own set of problems.
Yep...I'd say this is the norm.
I always thought it was odd one of my granddads would only shake hands, and then, it always felt like an attempt to break my hand.
The Neanderthal Handshake is the calling card of the latent inferior type…
seems like very Sunday at Church there is one guy that gets a running start
before turning to one side, lifting his right shoulder up as if he is in the
backswing of a five-iron, then proceeds to thrust his arm forward,
grabbing and twisting your hand as to overly crush your fingers.
It’s a greeting, not a competition.
As a Hispanic that's old hat. We've been hugging for centuries and even have a name for it, "el abrazo." It's silly to think hugging another male friend is gay. If that was the case every hispanic would be marching in gay parades.
Pasko is very wrong.
(06-11-2014 06:08 PM)AngryAphid Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote: [ -> ]My friends hug all the time. If you don't hug because you just like your personal space that's fine.
If you don't like hugging friends because you assign with it a sexual overtone or think it's "gay" then you have your own set of problems.
Yep...I'd say this is the norm.
I always thought it was odd one of my granddads would only shake hands, and then, it always felt like an attempt to break my hand.
The Neanderthal Handshake is the calling card of the latent inferior type…
seems like very Sunday at Church there is one guy that gets a running start
before turning to one side, lifting his right shoulder up as if he is in the
backswing of a five-iron, then proceeds to thrust his arm forward,
grabbing and twisting your hand as to overly crush your fingers.
It’s a greeting, not a competition.
I just always chalked it up to his being a Marine drill sergeant and FBI agent...always trying to be in a dominant position.
(06-11-2014 06:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 06:08 PM)AngryAphid Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote: [ -> ]My friends hug all the time. If you don't hug because you just like your personal space that's fine.
If you don't like hugging friends because you assign with it a sexual overtone or think it's "gay" then you have your own set of problems.
Yep...I'd say this is the norm.
I always thought it was odd one of my granddads would only shake hands, and then, it always felt like an attempt to break my hand.
The Neanderthal Handshake is the calling card of the latent inferior type…
seems like very Sunday at Church there is one guy that gets a running start
before turning to one side, lifting his right shoulder up as if he is in the
backswing of a five-iron, then proceeds to thrust his arm forward,
grabbing and twisting your hand as to overly crush your fingers.
It’s a greeting, not a competition.
I just always chalked it up to his being a Marine drill sergeant and FBI agent...always trying to be in a dominant position.
Actually most of the guys that do it are just energetic extroverts,
and it’s a heck of lot better than the limp wrist.
It's only gay when two homos do it.
The firmness of a handshake grip is supposed to be a pretty good general indicator of overall health in men over 50.
Men comfortable with their masculinity aren't bothered by hugs from other men.
(06-11-2014 07:32 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]The firmness of a handshake grip is supposed to be a pretty good general indicator of overall health in men over 50.
Men comfortable with their masculinity aren't bothered by hugs from other men.
I use a different way of indicating overall health… of which Mrs. Aphid doesn’t mind.
It was real weird the first time down to South America because the dudes all hug when greeting each other. I flinched the first several times but then, well, I just went with the flow.
The best part is guys get to kiss all the chicas on the cheek. That is cool.
As far as the US, yeah, it's still solely a handshake unless it's family.
(06-11-2014 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]Figured this would go over well...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201406..._gay_.html
Quote:Pasko, it turns out, has wrapped his arms around a long-term trend: In a broad range of social settings, more men are embracing, well, embracing. It's also triggering awkward moments, as hug-happy millennials encounter older men who have long measured their machismo by their palm-crushing handshakes.
"I think previous generations were more afraid to show affection to other males, because it was viewed as nonmasculine or something," Pasko said. "But bromance is in our common vernacular now, so I don't think people are too afraid of it anymore."
The rise in hugging can be directly traced to declines in homophobia, according to Mark McCormack, a University of Durham (England) sociologist who has studied the behavior of young men in the United States and the United Kingdom.
"These guys don't care whether other people perceive them as gay. In the '80s and '90s, if you were perceived as gay, you'd face huge stigma for it. You'd get marginalized and insulted," he said. Now, he says, "gender behavior isn't regulated in the same way."
It has nothing to do with the so called "acceptance" of the LGBT lifestyle. My family has always hugged each other as a method to show love for each other. Leave it to the left to try and gay it up.
(06-12-2014 08:03 AM)bevotex Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]Figured this would go over well...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201406..._gay_.html
Quote:Pasko, it turns out, has wrapped his arms around a long-term trend: In a broad range of social settings, more men are embracing, well, embracing. It's also triggering awkward moments, as hug-happy millennials encounter older men who have long measured their machismo by their palm-crushing handshakes.
"I think previous generations were more afraid to show affection to other males, because it was viewed as nonmasculine or something," Pasko said. "But bromance is in our common vernacular now, so I don't think people are too afraid of it anymore."
The rise in hugging can be directly traced to declines in homophobia, according to Mark McCormack, a University of Durham (England) sociologist who has studied the behavior of young men in the United States and the United Kingdom.
"These guys don't care whether other people perceive them as gay. In the '80s and '90s, if you were perceived as gay, you'd face huge stigma for it. You'd get marginalized and insulted," he said. Now, he says, "gender behavior isn't regulated in the same way."
It has nothing to do with the so called "acceptance" of the LGBT lifestyle. My family has always hugged each other as a method to show love for each other. Leave it to the left to try and gay it up.
Nothing gay about a family hug, because well, it's family. Now if some random dude I just met comes at me with a hug, I will no doubt flinch and move backwards. Handshake dude, handshake. lol
(06-11-2014 05:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote: [ -> ]My friends hug all the time. If you don't hug because you just like your personal space that's fine.
If you don't like hugging friends because you assign with it a sexual overtone or think it's "gay" then you have your own set of problems.
To each their own... If you consider a hug to be more of an intimate act (sexual or not) than I do why should I care? I'll not call someone broken because the like/hate hugs.
(06-12-2014 08:03 AM)bevotex Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2014 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]Figured this would go over well...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201406..._gay_.html
Quote:Pasko, it turns out, has wrapped his arms around a long-term trend: In a broad range of social settings, more men are embracing, well, embracing. It's also triggering awkward moments, as hug-happy millennials encounter older men who have long measured their machismo by their palm-crushing handshakes.
"I think previous generations were more afraid to show affection to other males, because it was viewed as nonmasculine or something," Pasko said. "But bromance is in our common vernacular now, so I don't think people are too afraid of it anymore."
The rise in hugging can be directly traced to declines in homophobia, according to Mark McCormack, a University of Durham (England) sociologist who has studied the behavior of young men in the United States and the United Kingdom.
"These guys don't care whether other people perceive them as gay. In the '80s and '90s, if you were perceived as gay, you'd face huge stigma for it. You'd get marginalized and insulted," he said. Now, he says, "gender behavior isn't regulated in the same way."
It has nothing to do with the so called "acceptance" of the LGBT lifestyle. My family has always hugged each other as a method to show love for each other. Leave it to the left to try and gay it up.
Uh, I didn't write that...it's from the Philly news paper. "The city of brotherly love"