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in basketball. Nothing official yet but it looks like the 2 rivals will play once again. Wonder if a H/H in football is in the works?

http://www.kbtx.com/sports/home/headline...58021.html

Quote:Jon Rothstein of CBS Sports is reporting Texas A&M and Baylor will once again meet on the basketball court December 9 when Billy Kennedy's Aggies will travel to Waco.

Baylor will return the trip to Reed Arena the following season.

Dan Ingham from our sister station KWTX confirms the report, but says the contract has not yet been signed so nothing is official.

Will be great for our SOS but wish this waited till we fired our crappy BB coach and got a new one at the end of next season.

Also, I thought Baylor was boycotting mean old aggy for leaving so this was kind of a surprise. Maybe it's just Mulkys team.

(06-10-2014 01:19 PM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]Also, I thought Baylor was boycotting mean old aggy for leaving so this was kind of a surprise.

LOL

Baylor was angry about that, yes.

Until they weren't.

Fanbase isn't happy about it but it is what it is.

We have a triple digit rpi team on the schedule with little upside for us right now and a history of obnoxious disrespectful fans and that was BEFORE 2011's events where A&M did their best to smear BU.

Other than a few ticket sales there really isn't much for us here unless Kennedy gets the ags turned around to a respectable rpi. If we win we are supposed to. If we let them upset us and its a black eye to lose to them.

And yet you asked to be on our schedule

(06-10-2014 02:36 PM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]And yet you asked to be on our schedule

It never says anything on who reached out first.

So....you somehow win morally if we reached out to you and you said yes.....even after you said you'd never play us again?

OK.

:)

(06-10-2014 02:45 PM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]So....you somehow win morally if we reached out to you and you said yes.....even after you said you'd never play us again?

OK.

:)

The AD never said they wouldn't. The fans simply felt we shouldn't and still feel that way.

If we did reach out the fans will be even angrier about it. The feedback on the Bu boards has been largely negative that I have seen.

I know the AD technically didn't but who can forget Mulkey's Classic:

"If a man wants to divorce me and says our relationship has no value to him, and then he asks me if he can sleep with me, the answer is, 'No!' "

Easy win for Baylor, nothing more...and it makes sense, with the proximity and history of the 2 schools.

Now, if they scheduled a FOOTBALL series, that would actually be cool.

Now now, we benefit too. With our OOC sched this year, Kennedy is pretty much guaranteed to get fired and thats a BIG win for A&M basketball!

Your rpi is likely to be the weaker one so it benefits A&M from that standpoint.

Also having a road game in state against one of the most visible hoops programs in state when none are present before.

meh

compared to getting rid of Kennedy, anything else is gravy

After the Baylor threat of a lawsuit to keep A&M in the Big 12, this potential Bball series has the potential to be Texas Tech-A&M ugly.

Aggie will want blood because of the Baylor lawsuit

(06-10-2014 03:05 PM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]I know the AD technically didn't but who can forget Mulkey's Classic:

"If a man wants to divorce me and says our relationship has no value to him, and then he asks me if he can sleep with me, the answer is, 'No!' "

Which of course means "Yes"!

(06-10-2014 07:24 PM)jml2010 Wrote: [ -> ]After the Baylor threat of a lawsuit to keep A&M in the Big 12, this potential Bball series has the potential to be Texas Tech-A&M ugly.

Aggie will want blood because of the Baylor lawsuit

The basketball series was always pretty intense from a lot of close games.

Honestly though at this point, other than ticket sales this series doesn't really help either team and both fan bases seem to be pissed about it being scheduled

(06-10-2014 07:24 PM)jml2010 Wrote: [ -> ]After the Baylor threat of a lawsuit to keep A&M in the Big 12, this potential Bball series has the potential to be Texas Tech-A&M ugly.

Aggie will want blood because of the Baylor lawsuit

1- There was no lawsuit. Simply a refusal to sign an absurd waiver to not sue a conference that interfered with a new tv deal when a contract that is set to pay 100 million might go up in smoke with no replacement. Only an idiot signs away rights in that situation no matter how much it inconveniences the aggies and their press conference schedules. KU, KSU, and ISU joined us for similar reasons.

2- It was never about keeping A&M. It was simply refusing to give away our right to legal recourse.

3- Our refusal never prevented them from joining the SEC and was never intended to do so. The SEC mandating an unprecedented waiver of legal rights in order to do so was the hold up and if they were fine without a waiver (which they eventually were) it could have been done quickly.

(06-10-2014 08:10 PM)1845 Bear Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-10-2014 07:24 PM)jml2010 Wrote: [ -> ]After the Baylor threat of a lawsuit to keep A&M in the Big 12, this potential Bball series has the potential to be Texas Tech-A&M ugly.

Aggie will want blood because of the Baylor lawsuit

1- There was no lawsuit. Simply a refusal to sign an absurd waiver to not sue a conference that interfered with a new tv deal when a contract that is set to pay 100 million might go up in smoke with no replacement. Only an idiot signs away rights in that situation no matter how much it inconveniences the aggies and their press conference schedules. KU, KSU, and ISU joined us for similar reasons.

2- It was never about keeping A&M. It was simply refusing to give away our right to legal recourse.

3- Our refusal never prevented them from joining the SEC and was never intended to do so. The SEC mandating an unprecedented waiver of legal rights in order to do so was the hold up and if they were fine without a waiver (which they eventually were) it could have been done quickly.

We've had this conversation before but I said "threat" not an actual filing of a lawsuit.

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-footbal...rit-090711

Quote:"After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action. The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011."

Now Baylor is threatening to sue the SEC and Mike Slive for tortious interference with a contract.

Only that suit has no merit.

The only reason baylor, kansas, K-State and Iowa St didn't sign is because they had nowhere to go and everything to lose.

Baylor was trying to protect 100 year rivalries and Ken Starr even said that in a Houston Chronicle editorial. Baylor needs Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma on the schedule to sell tickets and that is why Baylor is going against an unwritten rule against scheduling the Aggies.

http://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/art...167252.php

Quote:According to our friends in the sports media, the football programs of our beloved Texas institutions are about to become exported commodities, competing in different national athletic conferences. If this proves to be true, we will be tearing something very special from the celebrated fabric of our Texas history.

The nation knows that there is something unique about Texas football. It's the stuff of song and cinema. Historic, annual rivalries among our Texas institutions date back more than 100 years. Conference realignment has very real consequences for our institutions, our coaches and players, our students, our alumni, and the Texas citizenry itself - all of which have a vested interest in the success of our institutions. However, those voices are not being heard. It seems the decisions about realignment in the Big 12 are being driven by a few powerful individuals, without the benefit of any open discussion of the consequences of such actions on our great state.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/...12-breakup

Quote:We should not reject more than 100 years of tradition handed down through the generations without a well-informed, transparent discussion that objectively evaluates all of the costs and consequences thoroughly.

I bet Ken Starr would have been singing a different tune had Texas chose to partner with Baylor instead of Texas Tech? I doubt very seriously he would have cared if Texas A&M left and Tech got left behind.

Simple point-- baylor threatened to sue to keep their seat at the big boy table and have Tech( once the Arlington series is over), Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St fans fill up your stadium.

http://stationcaster.com/stations/krzi/m...436273.mp3

According to Baylor AD, A&M is pushing for this Bball H/H and the Baylor AD is letting each individual coach decide if A&M is worth it. I guess Drew is OK with since it will be an easy win.

(06-10-2014 08:46 PM)jml2010 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-10-2014 08:10 PM)1845 Bear Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-10-2014 07:24 PM)jml2010 Wrote: [ -> ]After the Baylor threat of a lawsuit to keep A&M in the Big 12, this potential Bball series has the potential to be Texas Tech-A&M ugly.

Aggie will want blood because of the Baylor lawsuit

1- There was no lawsuit. Simply a refusal to sign an absurd waiver to not sue a conference that interfered with a new tv deal when a contract that is set to pay 100 million might go up in smoke with no replacement. Only an idiot signs away rights in that situation no matter how much it inconveniences the aggies and their press conference schedules. KU, KSU, and ISU joined us for similar reasons.

2- It was never about keeping A&M. It was simply refusing to give away our right to legal recourse.

3- Our refusal never prevented them from joining the SEC and was never intended to do so. The SEC mandating an unprecedented waiver of legal rights in order to do so was the hold up and if they were fine without a waiver (which they eventually were) it could have been done quickly.

We've had this conversation before but I said "threat" not an actual filing of a lawsuit.

I did not see where you said threat initially but you later said "because of the Baylor lawsuit". So you said both.

Quote:The only reason baylor, kansas, K-State and Iowa St didn't sign is because they had nowhere to go and everything to lose.

The reason it wasn't signed is that until the risk was 0.0000% it makes zero sense to sign anything waiving a right to pursue damages to an asset set to pay 100mil to you.

Quote:Baylor was trying to protect 100 year rivalries and Ken Starr even said that in a Houston Chronicle editorial.

Not with the legal threat, there is no mention of that whatsoever. Starr may have said his goal in writing the editorial was to do that but everyone in Waco knew A&M was gone. It was about either slowing things down as much as could be done (to give the league the best odds of sustaining) or to protect legal rights to financial damages should it not hold.

Quote:Baylor needs Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma on the schedule to sell tickets and that is why Baylor is going against an unwritten rule against scheduling the Aggies.

We are sold out on a season ticket basis going forward. There are literally NO tickets for our football games available to sell unless teams return visitor allotments. We do not NEED anyone for ticket sales. Everything is sold out and last season the number of visiting fans at our games was estimated around 2,000 per game with over 96% of the crowd in Green and Gold.

The most laughable of your list is Tech who has not played in Waco since Briles was coach. The last time Tech came to Waco we had Bush as President, Leach hadn't been "Craig James"'ed, Michael Crabtree was a freshman, KU was a top 25 football team, and Nebraska had Bill Callahan. You have zero idea how things have changed in Waco. We didn't sell out for anyone back then and its a very different story now with season tickets taking care of all the games without either of UT or OU coming to Waco.

With the neutral site deal giving the half of the majority of the tickets to each school to sell on their own (jerry gets the rest, and parking, and concessions) Tech's fanbase hasn't totaled much if any relevant revenue for Baylor. Tech keeps their sales, we keep ours.

Tech isn't a huge traveling fanbase for hoops, wbb, baseball and even a big one like KU MBB isn't kicking off huge numbers for one game per year in the Ferrell Center.

Quote:I bet Ken Starr would have been singing a different tune had Texas chose to partner with Baylor instead of Texas Tech? I doubt very seriously he would have cared if Texas A&M left and Tech got left behind.

He'd have been silent and Hance/Bailey would have been loud. Never said he wouldn't have been different had circumstances changed.

Quote:Simple point-- baylor threatened to sue to keep their seat at the big boy table

Suing wasn't going to ensure anything. It was a stalling tactic and a way to possibly get damages if it went bad. Nothing more.

Quote:and have Tech( once the Arlington series is over), Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St fans fill up your stadium.

Once again every seat except for the visitor allotment is sold out. The most that any of those fanbases can bring without secondary markets is going to be 4k, the Big 12's mandated visitor allotment.

Nice troll attempt though.