Just a note of caution but UK had sources saying they were close to a deal with Bill Parcells about a week prior to landing Rich Brooks.
All Butch Davis has to do at this "Basketball" School...is get his team to .500 or even 7-5 and he will be a "hero".
Bunting was/is 25-43...so anything close to .500 will be JOB SECURITY for Davis for a long, long, time.
Ive heard that Davis IS interested but is trying to hold them up to see what happens with Miami.
Yea ok Butch Davis is going to UNC. If you told me they fired Coker effective Season's End and had Butch Davis signed and ready to take over, I'd believe you.
Cubanbull Wrote:Ive heard that Davis IS interested but is trying to hold them up to see what happens with Miami.
I think that if Coker finishes with a winning season after today's loss and a bowl he might stay. Not that they want him but because buying out his contract along with paying rich BUTCH BUCKS is so high it sucks.
Have a loosing season and they better get Coker's head, and the heads of the AD and the President for this whole BOTCHED mess since leaving the BE.
If he stays and Miami doesn't want Butch back there is also Michigan ST. to use to build up the cash cow and add to the Butch Bucks. Butch could end up there also. That's probably why they fired their coach before the end of the season to get in the "lets go for Butch race." With what the article said I think that Butch has gone with the Heels because he knows he is not wanted back in Miami.
Michigan St. can go after Barnett, Chow, or take a run at the top BE coaches then. If I were one of the BE coaches I would take a run at the the B-10 which has class rather than the ACC who followed the ASS.
:shhh: ;-)
Butch Davis going back to Miami would be a mistake even if they want him to return. Coaches almost never do well when they try to go back to a school they were at previously. Look at Johnny Majors going back to Pitt two decades later as a prime example of this theory in action. Butch Davis would be much better served by going the Steve Spurrier route and taking on a different team in the same league. Anything that the Old Ball Coach does with the Gamecocks will be looked upon as miraculous compared to what they have gone through under their last few regimes. That same regard would be hoisted upon Butch Davis with the Tarheels.
Krocker Krapp Wrote:Butch Davis going back to Miami would be a mistake even if they want him to return. Coaches almost never do well when they try to go back to a school they were at previously. Look at Johnny Majors going back to Pitt two decades later as a prime example of this theory in action. Butch Davis would be much better served by going the Steve Spurrier route and taking on a different team in the same league. Anything that the Old Ball Coach does with the Gamecocks will be looked upon as miraculous compared to what they have gone through under their last few regimes. That same regard would be hoisted upon Butch Davis with the Tarheels.
Some notable differences apply here, though. Davis woudn't be returning after a 2 decade layoff; His name is still fresh in the minds of Miami faithful and he's familiar with/to most of the high school coaches in Florida.
According to 2 ACC reporters Coker is done unless he wins out, and does so in more convincing manner than, say, the Houston and FIU contests. And undoubtedly Davis is as good an option as Miami could readily find. I've not heard if Dade County has voted to renovate the Orange Bowl but if they have that would go a long way to helping the Canes lure him back. UNC will and can invest, has great facilities, etc. Question is can they lure the depth needed to make a serious run. It's debatable which program has more access to recruits, UNC as one of 5 D1 programs in NC or Miami as one of 7 in heavily recruited Florida. Doesn't help either program to be in a division with VT, GT and UVA already outpacing them the past couple of years.
As for MSU, John L Smith and Nick Saban have done more to deflate that program than anyone, practically cementing the perception that they're so far back as a second fiddle that you can't win there. It may still be just perception, but it's resonating quite strongly.
panite Wrote:Krocker Krapp Wrote:Butch Davis going back to Miami would be a mistake even if they want him to return. Coaches almost never do well when they try to go back to a school they were at previously. Look at Johnny Majors going back to Pitt two decades later as a prime example of this theory in action. Butch Davis would be much better served by going the Steve Spurrier route and taking on a different team in the same league. Anything that the Old Ball Coach does with the Gamecocks will be looked upon as miraculous compared to what they have gone through under their last few regimes. That same regard would be hoisted upon Butch Davis with the Tarheels.
Agree> 
I second that.
Heck, I'll be impressed if we secure Butch Davis -- it'll send a signal that we want to compete in the ACC.
You don't think Miami is p*ssed off right now?
Yup.. it's a done deal -- all that's left is to figure out the best moment to make the official announcement in respect of our current head coach.
Krocker Krapp Wrote:Butch Davis going back to Miami would be a mistake even if they want him to return. Coaches almost never do well when they try to go back to a school they were at previously. Look at Johnny Majors going back to Pitt two decades later as a prime example of this theory in action. Butch Davis would be much better served by going the Steve Spurrier route and taking on a different team in the same league. Anything that the Old Ball Coach does with the Gamecocks will be looked upon as miraculous compared to what they have gone through under their last few regimes. That same regard would be hoisted upon Butch Davis with the Tarheels.
Johnny Majors went back to Pitt after the NCAA had changed the scholarship limits. When he was at Pitt the first time they usually had over 100 players on scholarship, which gave him plenty of opportunities to recruit some talent. After the NCAA changed the limit, recruiting became more of a science, and science was never Majors' strongest subject.
I remember games when Pitt would come to WVU and they had nearly 200 players on their sideline, which was almost triple the number of players that were wearing the old gold and blue. That was rather daunting, since he could rotate players all game, and his team was always fresh and well rested. Once the scholarship limits were in place WVU was able to be more competitive with Pitt and Penn State.
bitcruncher Wrote:Krocker Krapp Wrote:Butch Davis going back to Miami would be a mistake even if they want him to return. Coaches almost never do well when they try to go back to a school they were at previously. Look at Johnny Majors going back to Pitt two decades later as a prime example of this theory in action. Butch Davis would be much better served by going the Steve Spurrier route and taking on a different team in the same league. Anything that the Old Ball Coach does with the Gamecocks will be looked upon as miraculous compared to what they have gone through under their last few regimes. That same regard would be hoisted upon Butch Davis with the Tarheels.
Johnny Majors went back to Pitt after the NCAA had changed the scholarship limits. When he was at Pitt the first time they usually had over 100 players on scholarship, which gave him plenty of opportunities to recruit some talent. After the NCAA changed the limit, recruiting became more of a science, and science was never Majors' strongest subject.
I remember games when Pitt would come to WVU and they had nearly 200 players on their sideline, which was almost triple the number of players that were wearing the old gold and blue. That was rather daunting, since he could rotate players all game, and his team was always fresh and well rested. Once the scholarship limits were in place WVU was able to be more competitive with Pitt and Penn State.
To be fair, Johnny Majors had some of the worst facilities in the country when he returned to Pitt. He was definately a bit past his prime, but still a good coach with very little depth. We were beating the crap out of VATech one year when Billy West broke his leg. Pitt lost that game and the rest of them too. There was nobody behind him.
Johnny Majors has been instrumental in moving Pitt from some of the worst facilities to some of the best since 1996 when he moved to his current position as Athletics Advisor to the President. Our practice facility is so nice the Pittsburgh Steelers rent practice space from Pitt.
Bitcruncher is correct though, the 85 scholarship limit has definately leveled the plaing field in college FB.