(05-14-2014 08:00 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2014 07:05 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2014 05:56 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: [ -> ]I actually see no issue. NCSU vs Duke has had some great games. Money wise it would be great for both schools.
Most ACC Schools want 7 home games, I would love to see NCSU.
2 G5 Home Only (SB, CUSA, MAC)
1 P5 Home and Away with the ND years.
1 ACC P5/G5 Opposite of the P5 Home and Away (Duke, UVA, GT, PITT to go along with the current ECU years) That is 5 teams that provides quality opponents to go with the P5 series. Would like to see USF, UCF and Navy to this H/H slot.)
Now that rules are set, it is time for schools like NCSU to step and start scheduling! No more FCS games.
You might see a problem if Duke beat you by a point on a bad referee call and you only had 5 wins. When you play a conference team in an OOC slot the ACC is guaranteed a lost. I really only see it as a last resort for filling a hole or another special circumstance.
Nope, I would not. I am old school, that is the breaks. I am not a fan of 6-6 teams in bowl games. I have no issue with Ga Southern and ODU, but Presbyterian should have been a P5 school or ACC Coastal team.
If I was state's AD, I would keep playing the same schedule. State should not add an ACC team anytime soon for OOC game seeing how they have not won an ACC game since 2012.
(05-14-2014 03:36 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2014 03:25 PM)stxrunner Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2014 03:13 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see what the fuss is - especially for the ACC. Most likely, you're only going to see one more "OOC game in conference", and even there it will likely be at most a few teams within the conference at best. The PAC did it a few years ago with Cal and CU in order to finish out an earlier agreement. It was simpler to do that. Everyone assumes that this will result in more of the conferences closing ranks amongst themselves. I don't see that happening. Most likely, there will be some shortfall where a P5 has zero interest in scheduling a "dangerous G5 program", but other P5 programs are unable to accommodate the schedule.
It's not that big of a deal, because in the end the P5 will have some interest in wanting to play other P5 OOC, it's just that with a large percentage of the schools wanting to keep 7 home games, it makes it hard to get everything to work out all the time.
I think most people understand this may make sense financially or logistically, but looking at it from the sport's perspective, it just doesn't. Playing teams in your own conference as an OOC game just seems like lazy scheduling. If you use it as a last resort, fine. But that doesn't seem like what the idea is here.
I don't think anyone should have a 'problem' with it per se. Schools can do whatever they want. It's just that it really doesn't seem to keep the integrity of a schedule. I feel like fans would enjoy seeing some new schools they don't play every once in a while too.
I think we're talking about contingency plans, and nothing more.
In this thread, the people dishing out the most criticism are the ones that are fans/alumni of AAC schools who are afraid that the P5 will try their hardest to close ranks and minimize AAC contact. To a certain extent, we are already seeing that happen now. But also, P5 schools are still scheduling certain AAC schools when it makes sense - especially if there is some familiarity or historical connection.
Great example of this is the upcoming four game series between Rutgers and Temple. (Gut feeling leads me to believe we'll continue to play with some degree of regularity afterwards too.)