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Link Interesting read. Pretty much considering an MLB approach with NBA D League being the option for those not ready for the NBA yet. Seems risky for the young kid right now, but as time goes the NBA D League could grow and become an integral part of the NBA much like the Minors with MLB.

Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

I don't think of it as good or bad since something like this is going to happen sooner or later. Money drives the decisions and there's more to be made.

Basketball's gone global viral, in case anyone hasn't noticed. What do we have on tube now? Highschool, College, Euro, D league and NBA....I'm surprised there's no JUCO or AAU games.

More pathways to the NBA the better. Give more kids a purpose/a shot. I see a lot of purposeless numbed out kids these days floating by.

If adopted it might be the end of Calipari type success. Having to actually develop talent, it will level the playing field among collegians & result in an actual competition among schools with actual student-athletes.

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

The NBA is taking care of themselves, that's the reason we have the one & done rule. This is just a further refinement to make sure they don't miss a talent without having to pay to find out.

I like it overall. It would have to involve direct ties from D-League teams to NBA teams - like a farm system - that NBA teams could put draft picks, send players down to for development and rehab assignments, and bring players up from to fills holes on their rosters. It would solve multiple issues that college basketball faces right now like one-and-done players, paying players or not, and the bastardization of the term student-athlete. The really cool thing would be if they could also develop this type of system for football.

(04-18-2014 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

The NBA is taking care of themselves, that's the reason we have the one & done rule. This is just a further refinement to make sure they don't miss a talent without having to pay to find out.

I know. But I mean they can take care of themselves within the other rule as well. Very few are going to make it right out of high school.

I am sure dozens more would elect to get paid even if they had to play in the Development League. But like I said, they would get zero exposure on TV. College will do that. And college could certainly benefit from having three year players.

(04-18-2014 03:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

The NBA is taking care of themselves, that's the reason we have the one & done rule. This is just a further refinement to make sure they don't miss a talent without having to pay to find out.

I know. But I mean they can take care of themselves within the other rule as well. Very few are going to make it right out of high school.

I am sure dozens more would elect to get paid even if they had to play in the Development League. But like I said, they would get zero exposure on TV. College will do that. And college could certainly benefit from having three year players.

It's the NBA protecting themselves from themselves, or more to the point, protect each GM from himself. They just will not pass on a kid that might be the next great thing. NBA GM's can't afford to let an up and coming superstar land somewhere else when he could have had that player. So, they draft them as young as possible and pay them huge sums of money to find out if they can play. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't and the kid is out of the league after his initial contract.

I too would just adopt a position similar to MLB, enter the draft out of high school if you like but with the understanding you might be riding a bus making substantially less money than the NBA league minimum.

If the players union is smart and looking out for their union brothers, they'll endorse this as it keeps an established player from losing his spot to a young guy that may or may not have the necessary skills.

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

Depends what kind of concessions the union gets. Also, are D League players part of the union? If not, perhaps they should push for that...

If this disrupts the NCAA, I'm all for it. If it disrupts the hypocritical and disingenuous status quo and unleashes chaos and, potentially, innovation, I'm all for it.

I think there is a place for reversing the structure of sports and academics to more accurately reflect their relationship. A place that doesn't hide the reality that sports and commerce are first in the eyes of the consumer, and add academics as well as in-career and post-career skills as the "extracurricular." Essentially, your major is in your sport, as well as in personal brand management. Essential course electives are in certain judgment skills for selecting advisors, criminal judgment skills, money management, etc. Heck, all high school kids should (but probably don't) learn money management and social media skills these days. The classes could be virtual, and your grades could earn you a bonus.

What that place is, I don't know. But the Crews Center and Entrepreneurial Journalism class may provide guidance...

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

(04-21-2014 12:29 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

Exactly. NCAA big time program = Charter Jets, first class hotels, local and national exposure.

There is a D League team here in the Dallas suburbs. It draws pretty well. Other than that...

(04-21-2014 12:29 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

So that's why Napier said what he did and the NCAA changed the rule within a week?


"No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA."

(04-21-2014 02:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:29 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

So that's why Napier said what he did and the NCAA changed the rule within a week?


"No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA."

He's greedy.

(04-21-2014 03:03 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 02:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:29 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Tiger46' pid='10682544' dateline='1397843972']

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

So that's why Napier said what he did and the NCAA changed the rule within a week?


"No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA."

NCAA champ bully pulpit. If it had been one of our guys there would be an investigation going on right now. I don't have a problem with what the NCAA did.

(04-21-2014 02:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:29 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

So that's why Napier said what he did and the NCAA changed the rule within a week?


"No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA."

Man I'm beyond thinking I know why people do or say the things they do. I think people have been nice because they don't want to rain on his parade and it's fashionable to bash the NCAA but I don't think you'll find anyone connected with college basketball that thinks he went to bed hungry.

(04-21-2014 04:08 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 02:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:29 PM)Rob Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-21-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

I'd rather get paid in the D-League over going to bed hungry in the NCAA...

No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA.

So that's why Napier said what he did and the NCAA changed the rule within a week?


"No one goes to bed hungry in the NCAA."

Man I'm beyond thinking I know why people do or say the things they do. I think people have been nice because they don't want to rain on his parade and it's fashionable to bash the NCAA but I don't think you'll find anyone connected with college basketball that thinks he went to bed hungry.

If he went to bed hungry, it is HIS fault.

(04-18-2014 12:59 PM)Tiger46 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2014 11:02 AM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]Can't see the players association agreeing to this. The NBA would get the best of both worlds. The only way I could see this happening is they get drafted at age 18 and then assigned to an affiliate and can't be called up to the NBA until they reach 21.

That's fine but no one would see them play but NBA stiffs.

Their best bet for exposure is in college.

So I'm for the same rules as baseball. Go straight out of high school and take your chances or three years in college.

The NBA can take care of itself.

Then where do they go when the NBA doesn't work out? Most of the time it doesn't you know? They can't get their scholarships after declaring for professional teams. Without the ability to pay for a 4 year degree as some of them will be, their chances of landing a good job are practically nil. Have built in insurance policies if they get hurt while playing for a 4 year school that would keep them from playing pro ball if there is worry about that aspect. Lloyds of London will insure anything. All this speculation about student athletes going to bed hungry is just speculation. But do we know for sure NONE of them do? Are we with ALL of them ALL of the time and know what their financial status is? I can give you a short answer. NO! The NCAA could ok them to get food vouchers redeemable at food servers only NOT cash. There is a way for it to work without abuse. Testing the waters is still a good idea. Taking their chances is not.

For some reason, some folks have decided there's no possible way a scholarship athlete could go to bed hungry.

The NCAA decided there was. For a lethargic bunch of academicians, they changed the rules faster than I've ever seen.