Ooh, let it be Charlotte!
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Charlotte would be awesome. I am not surprised that all sites are in NC.
The ACC couldn't go wrong with any of those 4 options.
Does the ACC seriously boycott SC locations for tournament/postseason play?
(04-17-2014 05:15 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ]Does the ACC seriously boycott SC locations for tournament/postseason play?
Yes. They are part and parcel to the NAACP's economic terrorism against South Carolina. Reason #175341 why this conference is an absolute joke.
(04-17-2014 05:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:15 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ]Does the ACC seriously boycott SC locations for tournament/postseason play?
Yes. They are part and parcel to the NAACP's economic terrorism against South Carolina. Reason #175341 why this conference is an absolute joke.
Yet they held the ACC Indoor Track and Field Championship at Clemson this year and are holding the ACC Rowing Championship at Clemson in May, which I think they do almost every year.
(04-17-2014 05:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:15 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ]Does the ACC seriously boycott SC locations for tournament/postseason play?
Yes. They are part and parcel to the NAACP's economic terrorism against South Carolina. Reason #175341 why this conference is an absolute joke.
Yet they held the ACC Indoor Track and Field Championship at Clemson this year and are holding the ACC Rowing Championship at Clemson in May.
Let me know when either of those events make the conference even a fraction of what an ACC baseball tournament in May in Myrtle Beach would have made. You could probably total both events for the next 10 years and not make the revenue difference one year would make.
(04-17-2014 06:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:15 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ]Does the ACC seriously boycott SC locations for tournament/postseason play?
Yes. They are part and parcel to the NAACP's economic terrorism against South Carolina. Reason #175341 why this conference is an absolute joke.
Yet they held the ACC Indoor Track and Field Championship at Clemson this year and are holding the ACC Rowing Championship at Clemson in May, which I think they do almost every year.
Let me know when either of those events make the conference even a fraction of what an ACC baseball tournament in May in Myrtle Beach would have made. You could probably total both events for the next 10 years and not make the revenue difference one year would make.
Myrtle Beach has to bid on it first.
Reality is sometimes inconvenient for rants and raves.
(04-17-2014 06:07 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:15 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ]Does the ACC seriously boycott SC locations for tournament/postseason play?
Yes. They are part and parcel to the NAACP's economic terrorism against South Carolina. Reason #175341 why this conference is an absolute joke.
Yet they held the ACC Indoor Track and Field Championship at Clemson this year and are holding the ACC Rowing Championship at Clemson in May, which I think they do almost every year.
Let me know when either of those events make the conference even a fraction of what an ACC baseball tournament in May in Myrtle Beach would have made. You could probably total both events for the next 10 years and not make the revenue difference one year would make.
Myrtle Beach has to bid on it first.
Reality is sometimes inconvenient for rants and raves.
http://www.thestate.com/2009/07/07/85414...eball.html
Quote:The ACC has halted its plans to hold its conference baseball tournament in Myrtle Beach, citing failure to reach an agreement on the Confederate flag issue.
In May, the ACC awarded the event to Myrtle Beach for 2011-13, expressing a willingness to look past the NCAA’s ban of predetermined championship events being contested in the state.
On Monday, the league announced it had given the event to Durham, N.C. (for 2011, 2013) and Greensboro, N.C. (for 2012), confirming a report by The State that its plans had changed.
Maybe instead of always trying to be the board know-it-all or belittle people who have dealt with this joke of a conference for more than just a cup of coffee you should do a little research so that reality doesn't slap you in the face.
Charlotte is half-way between Clemson and UNC.
I suspect that will be the compromise.
(04-17-2014 06:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte is half-way between Clemson and UNC.
I suspect that will be the compromise.
Great compromise. I'm sure that Charlotte, Greensboro, Durham, etc. will be sending some of that lucrative windfall to the many municipalities in South Carolina.
(Enter ACC apologist "But you got the rowing championship" or some other BS response)
(04-17-2014 06:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:07 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]Yes. They are part and parcel to the NAACP's economic terrorism against South Carolina. Reason #175341 why this conference is an absolute joke.
Yet they held the ACC Indoor Track and Field Championship at Clemson this year and are holding the ACC Rowing Championship at Clemson in May, which I think they do almost every year.
Let me know when either of those events make the conference even a fraction of what an ACC baseball tournament in May in Myrtle Beach would have made. You could probably total both events for the next 10 years and not make the revenue difference one year would make.
Myrtle Beach has to bid on it first.
Reality is sometimes inconvenient for rants and raves.
http://www.thestate.com/2009/07/07/85414...eball.html
Quote:The ACC has halted its plans to hold its conference baseball tournament in Myrtle Beach, citing failure to reach an agreement on the Confederate flag issue.
In May, the ACC awarded the event to Myrtle Beach for 2011-13, expressing a willingness to look past the NCAA’s ban of predetermined championship events being contested in the state.
On Monday, the league announced it had given the event to Durham, N.C. (for 2011, 2013) and Greensboro, N.C. (for 2012), confirming a report by The State that its plans had changed.
Maybe instead of always trying to be the board know-it-all or belittle people who have dealt with this joke of a conference for more than just a cup of coffee you should do a little research so that reality doesn't slap you in the face.
Did Myrtle Beach bid on hosting this year? No. Their last bid was five years ago and that article pretty much indicates the Myrtle Beach Pelicans screwed up getting its political ducks in a row. No matter how over the top the flag controversy is, do you honestly think the ACC is going to get involved in the middle of that political mess when the host doesn't even have its local people lined up (considering the selection of Myrtle Beach made national news, at least in SI) and you have state-level organizations backed by their national counterparts ready to raise hell? The ACC isn't going to fight those battles for you, nor should it.
Excuse me while I LOL at your claim of complicity in "economic terrorism". That's rich, and par for the course with the hyperbole often demonstrated in your posts. Do I think the NCAA ban is BS, yes; but cut the over-the-top assertions about how Clemson is a victim of the ACC being "part and parcel" to the NAACP's war on stars and bars simply because it doesn't want to immerse its entire membership in that swamp.
Here's the ACC championship events that have been held in SC the last 10 years. Clearly there is no general ban from the conference (not that there isn't a rational aversion to national political and racial controversy that any sanely run organization should have).
2013-14: Rowing, Men's & women's Indoor T&F
2012-13: Rowing
2011-12: Rowing, Men's & women's cross country
2010-11: Rowing
2009-10: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2008-09: None
2007-08: Rowing
2006-07: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2005-06: Rowing
2004-05: Rowing, Men's & women's indoor T&F
Durham is a good ballpark with restaurants and bars close by and the best funnel cakes I've ever eaten.
They should hold it in Syracuse
(04-17-2014 08:19 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Durham is a good ballpark with restaurants and bars close by and the best funnel cakes I've ever eaten.
I wish the Pirates would bid to host at PNC. There's no better ball park (and I lived in San Fran for a time), but I can't see the Pirates letting that many games over multiple days being hosted there. They previously only allowed one game per year when Pitt and Duquesne played (DU has since dropped baseball). The other problem would be that Pittsburgh has no sense of college baseball at this point so it would have to promote the hell of it to generate interest. I don't know if it would ever happen, but it would be nice for the college players to get to play in PNC (or Fenway).
I would think Louisville might be a good location in the future. Louisville Slugger Field is a AAA facility and its pretty nice.
Charlotte and Durham are both AAA clubs.
Greensboro and Winston-Salem both have A clubs, but new "downtown" ballparks.
The ACC baseball tournament was supposed to be played at Fenway several years ago, but our friends at BC dropped the ball with the Red Sox management. The ACC was able to move the tournament to Greensboro that year on very short notice.
(04-17-2014 07:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:07 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 05:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]Yet they held the ACC Indoor Track and Field Championship at Clemson this year and are holding the ACC Rowing Championship at Clemson in May, which I think they do almost every year.
Let me know when either of those events make the conference even a fraction of what an ACC baseball tournament in May in Myrtle Beach would have made. You could probably total both events for the next 10 years and not make the revenue difference one year would make.
Myrtle Beach has to bid on it first.
Reality is sometimes inconvenient for rants and raves.
http://www.thestate.com/2009/07/07/85414...eball.html
Quote:The ACC has halted its plans to hold its conference baseball tournament in Myrtle Beach, citing failure to reach an agreement on the Confederate flag issue.
In May, the ACC awarded the event to Myrtle Beach for 2011-13, expressing a willingness to look past the NCAA’s ban of predetermined championship events being contested in the state.
On Monday, the league announced it had given the event to Durham, N.C. (for 2011, 2013) and Greensboro, N.C. (for 2012), confirming a report by The State that its plans had changed.
Maybe instead of always trying to be the board know-it-all or belittle people who have dealt with this joke of a conference for more than just a cup of coffee you should do a little research so that reality doesn't slap you in the face.
Did Myrtle Beach bid on hosting this year? No. Their last bid was five years ago and that article pretty much indicates the Myrtle Beach Pelicans screwed up getting its political ducks in a row. No matter how over the top the flag controversy is, do you honestly think the ACC is going to get involved in the middle of that political mess when the host doesn't even have its local people lined up (considering the selection of Myrtle Beach made national news, at least in SI) and you have state-level organizations backed by their national counterparts ready to raise hell? The ACC isn't going to fight those battles for you, nor should it.
Excuse me while I LOL at your claim of complicity in "economic terrorism". That's rich, and par for the course with the hyperbole often demonstrated in your posts. Do I think the NCAA ban is BS, yes; but cut the over-the-top assertions about how Clemson is a victim of the ACC being "part and parcel" to the NAACP's war on stars and bars simply because it doesn't want to immerse its entire membership in that swamp.
Here's the ACC championship events that have been held in SC the last 10 years. Clearly there is no general ban from the conference (not that there isn't a rational aversion to national political and racial controversy that any sanely run organization should have).
2013-14: Rowing, Men's & women's Indoor T&F
2012-13: Rowing
2011-12: Rowing, Men's & women's cross country
2010-11: Rowing
2009-10: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2008-09: None
2007-08: Rowing
2006-07: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2005-06: Rowing
2004-05: Rowing, Men's & women's indoor T&F
Again, let me know when either of these events brings any revenue to Clemson.
As for rowing, it pretty much has to be Clemson as the rest of the ACC's rowing facilities are either off campus (most of them), substandard facility-wise (UNC's "facility" is nothing more than a tractor shed with UNC Boat House painted on the side), in a cold weather location, or in America's most polluted lake (Syracuse). Duke is incapable of hosting the rowing championships because they have no facility at all.
(04-17-2014 10:10 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 07:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:07 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]Let me know when either of those events make the conference even a fraction of what an ACC baseball tournament in May in Myrtle Beach would have made. You could probably total both events for the next 10 years and not make the revenue difference one year would make.
Myrtle Beach has to bid on it first.
Reality is sometimes inconvenient for rants and raves.
http://www.thestate.com/2009/07/07/85414...eball.html
Quote:The ACC has halted its plans to hold its conference baseball tournament in Myrtle Beach, citing failure to reach an agreement on the Confederate flag issue.
In May, the ACC awarded the event to Myrtle Beach for 2011-13, expressing a willingness to look past the NCAA’s ban of predetermined championship events being contested in the state.
On Monday, the league announced it had given the event to Durham, N.C. (for 2011, 2013) and Greensboro, N.C. (for 2012), confirming a report by The State that its plans had changed.
Maybe instead of always trying to be the board know-it-all or belittle people who have dealt with this joke of a conference for more than just a cup of coffee you should do a little research so that reality doesn't slap you in the face.
Did Myrtle Beach bid on hosting this year? No. Their last bid was five years ago and that article pretty much indicates the Myrtle Beach Pelicans screwed up getting its political ducks in a row. No matter how over the top the flag controversy is, do you honestly think the ACC is going to get involved in the middle of that political mess when the host doesn't even have its local people lined up (considering the selection of Myrtle Beach made national news, at least in SI) and you have state-level organizations backed by their national counterparts ready to raise hell? The ACC isn't going to fight those battles for you, nor should it.
Excuse me while I LOL at your claim of complicity in "economic terrorism". That's rich, and par for the course with the hyperbole often demonstrated in your posts. Do I think the NCAA ban is BS, yes; but cut the over-the-top assertions about how Clemson is a victim of the ACC being "part and parcel" to the NAACP's war on stars and bars simply because it doesn't want to immerse its entire membership in that swamp.
Here's the ACC championship events that have been held in SC the last 10 years. Clearly there is no general ban from the conference (not that there isn't a rational aversion to national political and racial controversy that any sanely run organization should have).
2013-14: Rowing, Men's & women's Indoor T&F
2012-13: Rowing
2011-12: Rowing, Men's & women's cross country
2010-11: Rowing
2009-10: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2008-09: None
2007-08: Rowing
2006-07: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2005-06: Rowing
2004-05: Rowing, Men's & women's indoor T&F
Again, let me know when either of these events brings any revenue to Clemson.
As for rowing, it pretty much has to be Clemson as the rest of the ACC's rowing facilities are either off campus (most of them), substandard facility-wise (UNC's "facility" is nothing more than a tractor shed with UNC Boat House painted on the side), in a cold weather location, or in America's most polluted lake (Syracuse). Duke is incapable of hosting the rowing championships because they have no facility at all.
BS...Onondaga Lake isn't America's most polluted lake. It has undergone a huge change in the last 20-30 years. Once again your blind hatred shines through.
http://www.lakecleanup.com/about-the-cleanup/
(04-17-2014 11:46 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 10:10 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 07:56 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2014 06:07 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]Myrtle Beach has to bid on it first.
Reality is sometimes inconvenient for rants and raves.
http://www.thestate.com/2009/07/07/85414...eball.html
Quote:The ACC has halted its plans to hold its conference baseball tournament in Myrtle Beach, citing failure to reach an agreement on the Confederate flag issue.
In May, the ACC awarded the event to Myrtle Beach for 2011-13, expressing a willingness to look past the NCAA’s ban of predetermined championship events being contested in the state.
On Monday, the league announced it had given the event to Durham, N.C. (for 2011, 2013) and Greensboro, N.C. (for 2012), confirming a report by The State that its plans had changed.
Maybe instead of always trying to be the board know-it-all or belittle people who have dealt with this joke of a conference for more than just a cup of coffee you should do a little research so that reality doesn't slap you in the face.
Did Myrtle Beach bid on hosting this year? No. Their last bid was five years ago and that article pretty much indicates the Myrtle Beach Pelicans screwed up getting its political ducks in a row. No matter how over the top the flag controversy is, do you honestly think the ACC is going to get involved in the middle of that political mess when the host doesn't even have its local people lined up (considering the selection of Myrtle Beach made national news, at least in SI) and you have state-level organizations backed by their national counterparts ready to raise hell? The ACC isn't going to fight those battles for you, nor should it.
Excuse me while I LOL at your claim of complicity in "economic terrorism". That's rich, and par for the course with the hyperbole often demonstrated in your posts. Do I think the NCAA ban is BS, yes; but cut the over-the-top assertions about how Clemson is a victim of the ACC being "part and parcel" to the NAACP's war on stars and bars simply because it doesn't want to immerse its entire membership in that swamp.
Here's the ACC championship events that have been held in SC the last 10 years. Clearly there is no general ban from the conference (not that there isn't a rational aversion to national political and racial controversy that any sanely run organization should have).
2013-14: Rowing, Men's & women's Indoor T&F
2012-13: Rowing
2011-12: Rowing, Men's & women's cross country
2010-11: Rowing
2009-10: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2008-09: None
2007-08: Rowing
2006-07: Rowing, Men's & women's outdoor T&F
2005-06: Rowing
2004-05: Rowing, Men's & women's indoor T&F
Again, let me know when either of these events brings any revenue to Clemson.
As for rowing, it pretty much has to be Clemson as the rest of the ACC's rowing facilities are either off campus (most of them), substandard facility-wise (UNC's "facility" is nothing more than a tractor shed with UNC Boat House painted on the side), in a cold weather location, or in America's most polluted lake (Syracuse). Duke is incapable of hosting the rowing championships because they have no facility at all.
BS...Onondaga Lake isn't America's most polluted lake. It has undergone a huge change in the last 20-30 years. Once again your blind hatred shines through.
http://www.lakecleanup.com/about-the-cleanup/
Enter "America's dirtiest lake" in Google and this is the first article linked.
http://www.npr.org/2012/07/31/157413747/...omes-clean
Although I have a problem with the picture the article title is painting when the article itself says this:
Quote:Ken Lynch, a regional director for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, believes more people will start using the lake once it's clean enough for swimming.
"That means people can jump in the lake and enjoy the lake. You [can have] contact with the lake without concern of any contaminants impacting human health," Lynch says.
On a list of the dirtiest rivers and lakes in the world guess who comes in at #7?
http://www.treehugger.com/slideshows/nat...#slide-top
http://onondagalake.org/Sitedescription/...er%203.pdf
Quote:Human Health Risks
The major health risks associated
with Onondaga Lake itself (not in
cluding upland sub-sites) are due to
fish consumption and direct contact with some of
the sediments and soils near the lake. Contact with
the waters of Onondaga Lake
poses littel to no risk.
A Human Health Risk Assessment published by NYSDE
C in 2002 revealed that exposure to wetland
soils and lake sediments resulted in unacceptably hi
gh cancer risks. Sediments
are contaminated with
polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs); pesticides; cr
eosotes; heavy metals,
including lead, cobalt,
cadmium, and mercury; polycyclic aromatic hydro
carbons; and volatile organic compounds such and
chlorobenzene, benzene, and toluene. In addition,
consumption of fish resulted in unacceptable cancer
and non-cancer risks. Non-cancer risks arise fr
om mercury, which is a neurotoxin, and PCBs.
Yeah, sounds real safe to me. Somewhere I would definitely want my kid to pursue their sport of choice.