(03-18-2014 10:05 AM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Davis can coach and as some have already validated, he was able to win with other coaches recruits as well as develop his on players. Houston could do worst as so far coaching the actual game goes.
But since there is more to a basketball program then coaching, Mike Davis will not be a good fit everywhere.
Mike Davis IMO isnt an extroverted person, he is friendly, generous and accommodating to people, but wasnt comfortable in front of crowds, and thats not strange, because introverts are some of the best workers you can have they are usually low maintance but they are reserved, and dont seek out the crowd or attention.
Coach Davis isnt IMO a real people person, he couldnt deal well with conflict and adversity,he known to procrastinate in recruiting and procrastination in recruiting is a program killer.
Mike Davis after losing his mother appeared to mail it in and the season was a loss, maybe after losing his mother he should have taken a leave of absent and I believe the fans would have accepted the season results better.
So, what does that say, the Good, Mike Davis is a good guy, most who met him liked him. Good Coach, won a cusa championship, developed his players, graduated players, players loved him.
The Bad, divided fan base/opinions, not a people person, recruited late year in and year out, could never win the big ones, appeared to give up at times, heck some even complained that he scowled, screamed and stomped his feet, so you see what Davis was working with, with opinions like those.
The Ugly he was a BAMA man, some UAB fans never really cared for the hire.
So I agree with some of the posts, but anyone who say Davis cannot coach, I question their basketball IQ.
He can coach and it can be said by many coaches that he/she just would not be a good fit everywhere.
But a basketball programs still could do worst then Davis.
Hey rebounder,
I liked your assessment of Davis. Spot on on almost every point.
I was one of Davis's biggest critics, however I do have a lot of good things to say about him and good memories from his tenure.
-he seemed like a quiet guy, but he also seemed like a really nice guy. He let a friend and I just walk up to him on the court after a game and talk to him. He talked to us for a couple of minutes. We really appreciated that. He also hand delivered pizza to students at one of the Memphis campouts and thanked us for camping out. He was a good coach who did well with teams that were decimated by injuries and academics.
The bad:
-the academic and discipline issues I mentioned above were mostly his own fault.
-besides transfers and Juco guys, his recruiting was crap.
-only developed 2 big time 4-year players (AJ and Cam).
-couldn't win the big games when expectations began to mount.
-couldn't win in the conference tourney or against Memphis, even when we had better teams than them for 1 or 2 seasons.
-terrible at managing and promoting the program.
I still believe the "watershed" recruiting moment in Mike Davis' tenure was his failure to get UAB to agree to Cousin's request for the "out clause" to his NLOI. He not only lost Cousins but also at least one other player who would follow Cousins to UAB - and did follow him to Memphis and then to UKY. UAB chose to say "NO" and the rest is history, for better or for worse. In the following seasons, Davis seemed to cobble together each year's team at the last moment so UAB presented a "mystery team" every season. Usually, these teams were successful except for playing in the NCAA.
One irony was that several were critical of his recruiting method of Cousins saying that he wanted to jump to a "better job " using Cousins as a bargaining chip (which may have been true since it is what Calipary did the same year) and then complained that UAB was stuck with Davis for more years when the deal fell through. "Damned if he left, damned if he stayed" seemed to be their mantra.
Cousins was never going to play at UAB. Period. Had Davis got the NLI clause he would have left too. The only failure was for Davis is that he was forced to spend more time at UAB than he wanted too.
UAB made the right choice, which the NCAA has since validated.
The NCAA validated UAB made the right choice, hmmmmm do tell, how is that.
It appears the 2 fan base who complained the most about Davis, teams are sitting home..NCAA and play validated that also.
Crean willn't last long at Indiana, I understand the fans hate him more then they hated Davis.
Coach Hasse gets a pass this year even though the team underperformed.
(03-18-2014 01:15 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]The NCAA validated UAB made the right choice, hmmmmm do tell, how is that.
It appears the 2 fan base who complained the most about Davis, teams are sitting home..NCAA and play validated that also.
Crean willn't last long at Indiana, I understand the fans hate him more then they hated Davis.
Coach Hasse gets a pass this year even though the team underperformed.
The NCAA validated UABs decision by stating that such a clause is illegal
(03-18-2014 01:20 PM)LairDweller Wrote: [ -> ] (03-18-2014 01:15 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]The NCAA validated UAB made the right choice, hmmmmm do tell, how is that.
It appears the 2 fan base who complained the most about Davis, teams are sitting home..NCAA and play validated that also.
Crean willn't last long at Indiana, I understand the fans hate him more then they hated Davis.
Coach Hasse gets a pass this year even though the team underperformed.
The NCAA validated UABs decision by stating that such a clause is illegal
Thank you for taking the time to decipher his post and answering. I "willn't" have time to do so.
He earned his salary with that made up contraction.
Mike Davis can coach. Really? Just repeating whats been said here. Oh wait, he couldn't win the big games, couldn't recruit, couldn't deal with the media, didn't get out and promote UAB (not his fault, he is shy), couldn't excite the fan base. But aside from these minor details he was an excellent head coach. Im sorry, I forgot, he was a masterful X's and O's guy according to many coaches. Id like to see that list. Be honest folks, how many times while Davis was here did you leave a game having watched us score 55 points, rub the sleep from your eyes and say to yourselves, " Wow what a complicated and yet efficient offense we run"?
Hell I don't know if we hired a good coach yet but I feel pretty confident we got rid of a bad one. But I truly wish him the best. Hope he takes Texas Southern to the final four. Of course then we (UAB) would have to address a bigger issue.
His 2009-2011 teams all had top 50 defenses. He just didn't do offense very well.
(03-18-2014 06:04 PM)Shrack Wrote: [ -> ]His 2009-2011 teams all had top 50 defenses. He just didn't do offense very well.
Yes they did and a big thanks to Donnie Marsh, for coaching them so well on defense.
(03-18-2014 06:04 PM)Shrack Wrote: [ -> ]His 2009-2011 teams all had top 50 defenses. He just didn't do offense very well.
That will happen when you reduce the number of possessions for the offense to 40 a game.
(03-18-2014 05:39 PM)randy22263 Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Davis can coach. Really? Just repeating whats been said here. Oh wait, he couldn't win the big games, couldn't recruit, couldn't deal with the media, didn't get out and promote UAB (not his fault, he is shy), couldn't excite the fan base. But aside from these minor details he was an excellent head coach. Im sorry, I forgot, he was a masterful X's and O's guy according to many coaches. Id like to see that list. Be honest folks, how many times while Davis was here did you leave a game having watched us score 55 points, rub the sleep from your eyes and say to yourselves, " Wow what a complicated and yet efficient offense we run"?
Hell I don't know if we hired a good coach yet but I feel pretty confident we got rid of a bad one. But I truly wish him the best. Hope he takes Texas Southern to the final four. Of course then we (UAB) would have to address a bigger issue.
Did you see any posts claiming someone missed him?
Randy usually reads some other message board, and posts his comments here
I thought he was a good coach. Some things happened under his watch that were not positive (APR fiasco) but other that I think he was one of the best coaches in CUSA while he was here.
False alarm. Apparently, we are keeping Dickey.
(03-19-2014 07:24 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]False alarm. Apparently, we are keeping Dickey.
Mike Davis can take an okay basketball team and turn it into a pretty okay basketball team.
I was impressed with his ability to rescue good seasons out of teams that most people wrote off for dead: 2nd season - lost PD3 and Walter Sharpe, 3rd season - half the team gets kicked off and he only has 6 scholarship players, 4th season - who the heck thought we'd be that good?, year 5-got a NCAA berth and CUSA title with mostly unknown guys plus AJ, Jamarr, and Cam. However, the problems in year 2 and 3 were primarily his fault, besides PD3. In year 4, even though we had a good year overall, we completely collapsed and didn't make the tourney after starting 18-2 and being ranked in the top 25. We again collapsed down the stretch in year 5. Years 1 and 6 were really bad.
Davis is in a good place for him. If he plays his cards right he can do very will in the SWAC. Maybe in a few years he will get another shot at a bigger school? He would not be a good fit in Houston IMHO any way.