No Indiana teams (IU, Purdue, ND, etc...) made the NCAA or NIT except Indiana State. Indiana State is a 6 seed similar to Toledo with 23?? wins, lost to Witchita State in the conference championship. Many solid teams in the NIT (Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, Clemson, FSU, Georgetown, etc..). Toledo could make a run, but nothing easy here. Would love to see a home game, but likely at Missouri next with win over Southern Miss unless Davidson pulls of an upset if I am looking at it correctly.
No Akron, Ohio, etc...
Make a run. Go Rockets!!
(03-16-2014 08:25 PM)PTLROCK Wrote: [ -> ]No Indiana teams (IU, Purdue, ND, etc...) made the NCAA or NIT except Indiana State. Indiana State is a 6 seed similar to Toledo with 23?? wins, lost to Witchita State in the conference championship. Many solid teams in the NIT (Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, Clemson, FSU, Georgetown, etc..). Toledo could make a run, but nothing easy here. Would love to see a home game, but likely at Missouri next with win over Southern Miss unless Davidson pulls of an upset if I am looking at it correctly.
No Akron, Ohio, etc...
Make a run. Go Rockets!!
UT won't have a home game 2nd round. The 2nd round dates are Thursday-Monday.
(03-16-2014 07:51 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: [ -> ]A 6 seed in the NIT?? After everything the Rockets have done this season?? That's just an insult. No respect whatsoever.
That seems low if you look at the entire season; however, teams that improve as the season goes on and are playing their best ball in March are going to have an big advantage over those teams who fade as the season progresses and that trend may have really hurt the Rockets.
Of course I suppose that it is possible that the NIT was told that Savage was not available that week so they gave the Rockets a non-home court seed to keep life simple for themselves-----but even then I would have expected a 5 seed, not a 6 seed, so maybe loosing as badly as they did in Cleveland to WMU (a team that was not as highly regarded outside the MAC as several others) simply dropped the Rockets' stock by a bundle.
(03-16-2014 08:36 PM)T-Town Wrote: [ -> ] (03-16-2014 07:51 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: [ -> ]A 6 seed in the NIT?? After everything the Rockets have done this season?? That's just an insult. No respect whatsoever.
That seems low if you look at the entire season; however, teams that improve as the season goes on and are playing their best ball in March are going to have an big advantage over those teams who fade as the season progresses and that trend may have really hurt the Rockets.
Of course I suppose that it is possible that the NIT was told that Savage was not available that week so they gave the Rockets a non-home court seed to keep life simple for themselves-----but even then I would have expected a 5 seed, not a 6 seed, so maybe loosing as badly as they did in Cleveland to WMU (a team that was not as highly regarded outside the MAC as several others) simply dropped the Rockets' stock by a bundle.
They didn't put UT as a 6 because they couldn't host a game. I believe Illinois got a 2 or 3 seed, but will be playing on the road. And last year Kentucky was a 1 seed and played at Bobby Morris because Rupp Arena was hosting WNCAA games.
The 6th seed is a joke just looked at their schedule they are smaller team. They don't really have any signature wins either best win against la tech I don't view that as near as good as some of the Rockets road wins.
No respect at all for the MAC-How can Toledo be a 6th seed??????? You guys probably would've been better in one of the other tournaments. But I believe the MACs 2nd place team is tied into the NIT. What does that tell you about our conference? We'll never two teams in the big dance in the same year!!!!
If you saw the documentary "Summer Dreams" last night, you might remember Southern Mississippi as the university of Dwayne Davis, the Las Vegas tryout who spent this year playing in Spain.
(03-16-2014 09:13 PM)BroncoBen Wrote: [ -> ]No respect at all for the MAC-How can Toledo be a 6th seed??????? You guys probably would've been better in one of the other tournaments. But I believe the MACs 2nd place team is tied into the NIT. What does that tell you about our conference? We'll never two teams in the big dance in the same year!!!!
Nope. The only auto-bids to the NIT are the conferences #1 team/seed getting in if not in the NCAA.
(03-16-2014 06:35 PM)Rocket A Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously, I had no idea there was such a thing. According to this article it is on ESPNU at 8:30pm tonight.
(03-16-2014 09:03 PM)northrocket43 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-16-2014 08:13 PM)falconplucker Wrote: [ -> ]As a program, if you get offered post season play, you take it. Whether it is right or wrong, who cares? Some athletic departments could care less about women's basketball, let alone the WNIT. There is no guarantee that Toledo will get invited this year. The MAC will already have BGSU and CMU in the WNIT.
And probably Ball State.
(03-16-2014 09:13 PM)BroncoBen Wrote: [ -> ]No respect at all for the MAC-How can Toledo be a 6th seed??????? You guys probably would've been better in one of the other tournaments. But I believe the MACs 2nd place team is tied into the NIT. What does that tell you about our conference? We'll never two teams in the big dance in the same year!!!!
It can happen. The conference needs to continue to improve, but it can happen. In the 90s the MAC had talent spread around the league: Gary Trent at Ohio; Antonio Daniels, Jay Larranga, Keith McLeod, and Anthony Stacey of BGSU, Earl Boykins and Derrick Dial of EMU, Bonzi Wells of Ball State, Wally Sczerbiak and Devin Davis of Miam of OH, Casey Shaw and various point guards of Toledo. The league was sprinkled with NBA borderline talent. I actually remember Dick Vitale, upset, and stating that the MAC should have gotten three teams in the NCAAs instead of just two one year. Right now, as coaches go, there is Jim Christian at Ohio, Keith Dambrot at Akron, Kowalkczk at Toledo, Rob Murphy at EMU, and Steve Hawkins at WMU. If the league can build off of that, then perhaps it can raise its perception. The league will have to work to pull in better overall talent and sustain it. I think Murphy is just starting at EMU, and both Akron and OU have had better teams in recent years. Teams are going to have to win or come close to upsetting NCAA giants on the road. Nationally, even though Toledo was undefeated for a while this season, no one cared until Toledo played well against Kansas. After that, "experts", were constantly talking about and jumping on the Toledo bandwagon for weeks to come. It all comes down to giving people something to talk about; NBA talent and big wins.
the mac was stronger this year. in the rankings, in win-loss percentage, just watching games you could see a higher level of play.
it wasn't reflected in tourney invites and seeds but the league was pretty solid. ball state was the worst team and they were half decent.
the NIT and 27 wins is good progress. however, coming so close to an ncaa bid and falling short means the season won't be quite right unless we add another chapter w an NIT run. s miss is like toledo in a lot of ways and also hurting from just missing the ncaas. who wants it more will probably determine the winner. you think rian pearson won't be geeked to play at missouri? and davidson can give anyone trouble so that 2nd round game could be anywhere. coach k can sell this team on madison square garden and 30 wins, i think, but are we gonna get back to passing and moving the basketball?
Just guessing, but I bet Coach K is upset about the women's NCAA regional being at Savage, and that this is the last time MOB ever thinks about doing it again.
(03-17-2014 03:27 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote: [ -> ]Just guessing, but I bet Coach K is upset about the women's NCAA regional being at Savage, and that this is the last time MOB ever thinks about doing it again.
Doubt it. Even if the WNCAA wasn't at Savage, UT men would still be on the road since they're a 6 seed. They don't lower a school's seeding just because they can't host a home game (see: #2 Illinois @ #7 Boston U this year, and #1 Kentucky @ #8 Robert Morris last year).
I think we are all looking into not hosting the NIT in too much of a light.
Teams like Southern Miss and Toledo should be a lot higher seeds since they were mentioned as far "bubble teams" but yet are not playing each other as low seeds in the 2nd rate tournament.
NIT just wasn't impressed with the Toledo body of work, case closed.
(03-16-2014 07:47 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ]6 seed @ Southern Miss on Wednesday on ESPN3. Seriously??? A 6 seed?!?!
They are 27 - 6, have not lost a home game all year. Don't know if we are ready to play.
Cant say Southern Miss' schedule is overly impressive.
Head to head you cant really tell a difference between schedules. They lost their one big game to Louisville and beat some cupcakes. Fared well in their conference but the conference isnt anything to write home about.
NIT must think caliber of Conference USA is better than the MAC to warrant the low seed.
(03-17-2014 03:16 AM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]the mac was stronger this year. in the rankings, in win-loss percentage, just watching games you could see a higher level of play.
it wasn't reflected in tourney invites and seeds but the league was pretty solid. ball state was the worst team and they were half decent.
the NIT and 27 wins is good progress. however, coming so close to an ncaa bid and falling short means the season won't be quite right unless we add another chapter w an NIT run. s miss is like toledo in a lot of ways and also hurting from just missing the ncaas. who wants it more will probably determine the winner. you think rian pearson won't be geeked to play at missouri? and davidson can give anyone trouble so that 2nd round game could be anywhere. coach k can sell this team on madison square garden and 30 wins, i think, but are we gonna get back to passing and moving the basketball?
...and guarding SOMEBODY? ... ANYBODY?
I like the chance we have to put some wins on our resume. Win a couple and send Rian out of UT a true hall of famer!
Southern Miss is tough, but this is the NIT... not the CBI. We are the only team in this conference good enough (besides WMU) to be invited. No shame in losing, but lots to gain this year! Screw the seed, maybe a fire will be lit under our bellies. Face it, we didn't play well in big games this year. We need to be in more,to get better in them. This team can learn a lot this post season! GO ROCKETS!