CSNbbs

One possible interpretation of those HS to college numbers (20,000 of 300,000) is the value of the "red shirt " rule which allows football players to sit out a full year with no loss of scholastic standing. What colleges need is to work out a "red shirt" rule for academic classes to match that for athletics.

High school coaches don't get criticized if only one or two senior players are ready to play right away as freshmen in college, but the academic teachers get panned when all students who go to college are not ready to "win scholastically" as freshmen. College administrations complain when they have to offer remedial classes in core courses, but no one fusses about giving an athlete an extra year to be ready to play varsity football.

Every student needs to make the most of their collegiate opportunities. The problem comes when the public has to deal with the fact that nationally, less than 60% of all entering freshmen students graduate from all colleges on a 4/5 year time span. Pro athletes who return to finish their degrees are newsworthy and don't go unnoticed. As long as the nation tolerates a wide difference in high school educational opportunities, the colleges will be called upon to provide a way for those from lesser programs get a chance to catch up when they can get there.

Given that you're over the hill at 35 and ancient at 40, and your body's been beat to hell, even a long NFL career has no guarantees.

FWIW, a helluva lot more band scholarships are given out a year than football rides.

One helluva lot more.

(03-06-2014 01:41 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]Given that you're over the hill at 35 and ancient at 40, and your body's been beat to hell, even a long NFL career has no guarantees.

FWIW, a helluva lot more band scholarships are given out a year than football rides.

One helluva lot more.

Are they anywhere near equivalent in value?(serious question, not trying to be a smartass at all)

And BBF, you are on quite a roll today. Why don't you take the rest of the day off and leave on a high note?

(03-06-2014 01:41 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]Given that you're over the hill at 35 and ancient at 40, and your body's been beat to hell, even a long NFL career has no guarantees.

FWIW, a helluva lot more band scholarships are given out a year than football rides.

One helluva lot more.

I taught at West End HS with Taylor Greene who was 6' 4" and about 245 lb. He mentioned that he attended Alabama State on full scholarship so I asked what position he played? He replied "Second Clarinet".

Taylor was a guy of infinite surprises. One day in the 1980s, he mentioned at lunch "My brother in law just got a promotion". Naturally I asked about it expecting some mention of a manager or small company officer. He said "President Reagan just named him to be the head of the National Security Council - his brother in law was Gen. Colin Powell.(They were married to sisters)

(03-06-2014 01:41 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]Given that you're over the hill at 35 and ancient at 40, and your body's been beat to hell, even a long NFL career has no guarantees.

FWIW, a helluva lot more band scholarships are given out a year than football rides.

One helluva lot more.

Except football scholarships cover pretty much everything, most band scholarships are minimal.

I say this as somebody that was on a band scholarship.

I tend to take it to the level that not only should they get their education, but they should get it in a field that provides them a lot of opportunities.

There is something to be said though for working in a field that you like, at least up until the point in time where you try to find a job in that field or try and earn a living in that field.

(03-06-2014 02:21 PM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-06-2014 01:41 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]Given that you're over the hill at 35 and ancient at 40, and your body's been beat to hell, even a long NFL career has no guarantees.

FWIW, a helluva lot more band scholarships are given out a year than football rides.

One helluva lot more.

Except football scholarships cover pretty much everything, most band scholarships are minimal.

I say this as somebody that was on a band scholarship.

It varies, but yeah. Some schools will throw the checkbook at you (particularly music majors) but no, generally it's not the full ride football players get.

But, But, But, Dad, I'm going to be the 1.6% .

Not dad. Mom.

Dad has seen his 40 time and knows the score. It's mom that wants her little angel to reach for the stars.

Some folks get full band scholarships but I don't think it's very many. By and large athletic scholarships are worth a lot more.

I got a $500/semester scholarship for the UAB band for what came out to like 5-6 credit hours/semester and at least 20 hours commitment/week. It wasn't worth it for a non music major and definitely not for the time commitment for 1k a year