Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
Yet, everyone rails on student attendance.
Yes, it could be better, especially since people come out in droves to tailgate and only like half of those go into the game.
Let's say that there is 11,000 seats on that side (probably more given the set-up of Huskie Stadium). If 50% of those people filling up that side are students (a safe assumption, if not more). You're averaging 5.5k there.
In seasons when attendance was closer to a 17-18k average, I'd bet at least 4k were students.
(02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
(02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
And +1.
(02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
The problem with the students is that a large portion leave at halftime.
(02-17-2014 01:28 PM)BobL Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
The problem with the students is that a large portion leave at halftime.
and thats usually because of the score like vs emu or the weather like ball state and wmu
(02-17-2014 01:05 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
Keep in mind those students are actually "purchasing" tickets, unlike NIU where the they've "paid" by having money taken from them via student-fees. Can't imagine the typical NIU student being willing to actually shell out money. You're guestimating that half of the east side is students and figuring 4-5K, keep in mind those other stadiums have three times the capacity so a smaller percentage of their capacity is still more than what we've got. Our attendance may not be as bad as some think, but in no way shape or form is it better than those two....especially after halftime.
AND IF you're convinced our student attendance isn't so bad, then please start realizing the importance of NIU athletics growing the season ticket base and that means re-capturing (or capturing) the surrounding area. We should work half as hard at getting people from nearby as we do trying to convince them to come here from Chicago and we'd have better numbers.
(02-17-2014 03:29 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:05 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
Keep in mind those students are actually "purchasing" tickets, unlike NIU where the they've "paid" by having money taken from them via student-fees. Can't imagine the typical NIU student being willing to actually shell out money. You're guestimating that half of the east side is students and figuring 4-5K, keep in mind those other stadiums have three times the capacity so a smaller percentage of their capacity is still more than what we've got. Our attendance may not be as bad as some think, but in no way shape or form is it better than those two....especially after halftime.
AND IF you're convinced our student attendance isn't so bad, then please start realizing the importance of NIU athletics growing the season ticket base and that means re-capturing (or capturing) the surrounding area. We should work half as hard at getting people from nearby as we do trying to convince them to come here from Chicago and we'd have better numbers.
Do we do that?
(02-17-2014 03:29 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:05 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
Keep in mind those students are actually "purchasing" tickets, unlike NIU where the they've "paid" by having money taken from them via student-fees. Can't imagine the typical NIU student being willing to actually shell out money. You're guestimating that half of the east side is students and figuring 4-5K, keep in mind those other stadiums have three times the capacity so a smaller percentage of their capacity is still more than what we've got. Our attendance may not be as bad as some think, but in no way shape or form is it better than those two....especially after halftime.
AND IF you're convinced our student attendance isn't so bad, then please start realizing the importance of NIU athletics growing the season ticket base and that means re-capturing (or capturing) the surrounding area. We should work half as hard at getting people from nearby as we do trying to convince them to come here from Chicago and we'd have better numbers.
+1
(02-17-2014 01:28 PM)BobL Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
The problem with the students is that a large portion leave at halftime.
This is happening at most FBS schools. Even Alabama has those issues with their students.
The problem is we have 180k+ living alums in the Chicago land area that don't come to games.
(02-17-2014 04:47 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:28 PM)BobL Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
The problem with the students is that a large portion leave at halftime.
This is happening at most FBS schools. Even Alabama has those issues with their students.
The problem is we have 180k+ living alums in the Chicago land area that don't come to games.
That's because, like the media, most of them view us as a small player on the college football landscape and coming from a minor conference. I'd be willing to bet that most don't even know we are FBS.
(02-17-2014 03:29 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:05 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
Keep in mind those students are actually "purchasing" tickets, unlike NIU where the they've "paid" by having money taken from them via student-fees. Can't imagine the typical NIU student being willing to actually shell out money. You're guestimating that half of the east side is students and figuring 4-5K, keep in mind those other stadiums have three times the capacity so a smaller percentage of their capacity is still more than what we've got. Our attendance may not be as bad as some think, but in no way shape or form is it better than those two....especially after halftime.
AND IF you're convinced our student attendance isn't so bad, then please start realizing the importance of NIU athletics growing the season ticket base and that means re-capturing (or capturing) the surrounding area. We should work half as hard at getting people from nearby as we do trying to convince them to come here from Chicago and we'd have better numbers.
Thanks for thoroughly picking apart my positive comment.
Actually I am not guesstimating...In 2010 we averaged 4,106 students per game. 2013 was better than 2010 in attendance. Why does the big time stadium capacity matter if those schools are not selling out their student season tickets?
Other than paying to be on 670 or CSNC the past few years does athletics do anything in Chicago that is NOT done for instant money (AKA Soldier Field games)? Then again people say that being on TV or a major radio station is a must and they have a large reach outside of the metro area so its not really focused on Chicago is it? So please tell me what does Athletics do in Chicago that they don't in DeKalb County?
(02-17-2014 04:51 PM)Dog Fan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 04:47 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:28 PM)BobL Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
The problem with the students is that a large portion leave at halftime.
This is happening at most FBS schools. Even Alabama has those issues with their students.
The problem is we have 180k+ living alums in the Chicago land area that don't come to games.
That's because, like the media, most of them view us as a small player on the college football landscape and coming from a minor conference. I'd be willing to bet that most don't even know we are FBS.
Agreed. Unfortunately the current state of the West stands and South Endzone does not help correct that perception.
Like I have said before I didn't even know we were FBS until my Sophomore year.
(02-17-2014 01:24 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
And +1.
That just isn't true, the community has carried this team at times.
NIU overall attendance would improve significantly if the MAC was a more competitive conference. The West is better than the East but if EMU, CMU, Akron, Kent, UMass, WMU or Miami is on the schedule you can almost guarantee a win if not a blow out by halftime. I do not enjoy attending games when the outcome of the game is known by the end of the 1st quarter and I'll bet many if not most of the students share that opinion.
(02-17-2014 03:35 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 03:29 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:05 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
Keep in mind those students are actually "purchasing" tickets, unlike NIU where the they've "paid" by having money taken from them via student-fees. Can't imagine the typical NIU student being willing to actually shell out money. You're guestimating that half of the east side is students and figuring 4-5K, keep in mind those other stadiums have three times the capacity so a smaller percentage of their capacity is still more than what we've got. Our attendance may not be as bad as some think, but in no way shape or form is it better than those two....especially after halftime.
AND IF you're convinced our student attendance isn't so bad, then please start realizing the importance of NIU athletics growing the season ticket base and that means re-capturing (or capturing) the surrounding area. We should work half as hard at getting people from nearby as we do trying to convince them to come here from Chicago and we'd have better numbers.
+1
+2. Every time I leave downtown Chicago (which isn't that often) it takes me more than an hour to get to Naperville, even if I start out at 3 pm. So that's well over an hour and a half to get to DeKalb. We aren't going to get a lot of those people. If you can convince people in Aurora, Naperville, Oswego, etc. who can get to DeKalb in 35 minutes you might get somewhere.
(02-19-2014 12:20 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 03:35 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 03:29 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:05 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Looking at OU's and Iowa's actual numbers I wouldn't be surprised if our actual average student attendance was close to if not better than those two.
Keep in mind those students are actually "purchasing" tickets, unlike NIU where the they've "paid" by having money taken from them via student-fees. Can't imagine the typical NIU student being willing to actually shell out money. You're guestimating that half of the east side is students and figuring 4-5K, keep in mind those other stadiums have three times the capacity so a smaller percentage of their capacity is still more than what we've got. Our attendance may not be as bad as some think, but in no way shape or form is it better than those two....especially after halftime.
AND IF you're convinced our student attendance isn't so bad, then please start realizing the importance of NIU athletics growing the season ticket base and that means re-capturing (or capturing) the surrounding area. We should work half as hard at getting people from nearby as we do trying to convince them to come here from Chicago and we'd have better numbers.
+1
+2. Every time I leave downtown Chicago (which isn't that often) it takes me more than an hour to get to Naperville, even if I start out at 3 pm. So that's well over an hour and a half to get to DeKalb. We aren't going to get a lot of those people. If you can convince people in Aurora, Naperville, Oswego, etc. who can get to DeKalb in 35 minutes you might get somewhere.
What is NIU athletics doing in Chicago other than the Soldier Field games? Ya they do some media events down town but that is to get some coverage and its not open to the public.
(02-17-2014 04:51 PM)Dog Fan Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 04:47 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:28 PM)BobL Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:15 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote: [ -> ] (02-17-2014 01:13 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ]NIU 's attendance issues has always had very little to do with the students.
+1. Although many of this board had claimed otherwise before. Some people get it.
The problem with the students is that a large portion leave at halftime.
This is happening at most FBS schools. Even Alabama has those issues with their students.
The problem is we have 180k+ living alums in the Chicago land area that don't come to games.
That's because, like the media, most of them view us as a small player on the college football landscape and coming from a minor conference. I'd be willing to bet that most don't even know we are FBS.
It's because the MAC schedule is brutal, having maybe 1 or at best 2 quality games per year at home doesn't build a fan base.
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