BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
(02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
I cannot say it any better than you did. So I'm not going to try. Thanks for writing that. Last night's effort was about a lot more than wins or losses.
(02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
(02-14-2014 12:37 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
(02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Pappy I knew you were an excellent stat man, and a public address announcer extraordinaire, but I didn't know you were such an intellectual. I'm impressed. Next thing you know you'll be quoting Shakespeare at us. Great post.
Years of having to talk my way out of tight spots with Mrs. G. have sharpened my arguments.
My proudest moment was the hoop in hot springs.
(02-14-2014 12:40 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:37 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
Amazing when your hating to lose heartbreakers most of all is the most one can say about last night's gallant effort.
(02-14-2014 08:46 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:40 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:37 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
Amazing when your hating to lose heartbreakers most of all is the most one can say about last night's gallant effort.
It just seemed to be the perfect illustration of the point. Who is proud of their team when they get flattened in a blowout? No one. But fans can be proud when their team performs well and comes close even though they end up losing. Last night was a perfect example of that. Why is that comment inappropriate, or are you now the equivalent of the seat police on this board? Only company line statements allowed now?
(02-14-2014 09:31 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 08:46 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:40 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:37 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
Amazing when your hating to lose heartbreakers most of all is the most one can say about last night's gallant effort.
It just seemed to be the perfect illustration of the point. Who is proud of their team when they get flattened in a blowout? No one. But fans can be proud when their team performs well and comes close even though they end up losing. Last night was a perfect example of that. Why is that comment inappropriate, or are you now the equivalent of the seat police on this board? Only company line statements allowed now?
Well to be fair, if someone you were rooting for was a one armed boxer, and he went the distance with Mike Tyson in his prime, even though he lost, you'd be proud of his effort. We were sort of that one armed boxer last night. Not one of us would have reasonably expected us to win that game last night, especially when we found out both Will and Leroy were out, and Mariek ended up being out, and we were playing with mostly youngsters who hadn't played a lot and came within a basket of winning regulation. I'm not one for moral victories, but on this one I have to give the kids and coaches credit. They fought tooth and nail to the end, and thoughtthey lost the game, they won a lot of hearts and minds.
(02-14-2014 09:31 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 08:46 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:40 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:37 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:23 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]BTH had an excellent editorial on this subject, and I recommend it; but I thought I would put in my half-cent's worth.
I have been a Trojan fan since the 1999-2000 season, and I have NEVER been prouder to be one than I am today. I was not there in the Notre Dame game days, but even if I had been, my statement would still stand. THIS is what it is all about. Forget the final score: what are we made of? We found out last night, and it was a beautiful thing.
You can have your pretty-boy media coaches and your high-flying McDonalds's All-Americans. You can have Sports Center and the shallow pizzazz that is there. You can have the transitory success of the NCAA tournament. All of that is inconsequential to me compared to what we saw last night. We saw Trojans, in the finest meaning of the mascot.
We saw a team without two of their best players, players playing hurt, players playing with little game-time experience, players playing out of position, on the road in front of a hostile crowd, against some of the best athletes in the conference. We saw a team come back against all odds, then come back again, and then finally just run out of bullets. We saw a magnificent effort.
Then we saw young men have to suffer the heartbreak of having given their all, and a little more, and still be on the losing end of the score - and some short-sighted fools will call them "losers" because they came out on the short end of the score. Not me! (People who think like that would probably call the Greeks at Thermopylae "losers" just because they died.) The Trojans were winners in the finest sense of the word.
So here is to our Trojans! They may not make the post-season; they may not even have a winning record this season. But for one game, at least, we saw college basketball at its best - the real essence of the sport - the sort of gutsy play that is the reason I am a Trojan fan.
Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
Amazing when your hating to lose heartbreakers most of all is the most one can say about last night's gallant effort.
It just seemed to be the perfect illustration of the point. Who is proud of their team when they get flattened in a blowout? No one. But fans can be proud when their team performs well and comes close even though they end up losing. Last night was a perfect example of that. Why is that comment inappropriate, or are you now the equivalent of the seat police on this board? Only company line statements allowed now?
Didn't say your comment was inappropriate, did I mow? Just amazing. whether ou see me as the equivalent of a Nazi for my amazement is of no concern to me obviously. Company line? If Pappy's original comments in this thread are company line, count me in, thank you. Well said, Pappy.
(02-14-2014 10:43 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 09:31 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 08:46 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:40 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:37 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]Your reaction to last night's performance by the Trojans is why almost all fans would rather lose a squeaker than lose by getting blown out. In fact, MJS is the only fan that I know of that would rather get blown out than lose a close one.
Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
Amazing when your hating to lose heartbreakers most of all is the most one can say about last night's gallant effort.
It just seemed to be the perfect illustration of the point. Who is proud of their team when they get flattened in a blowout? No one. But fans can be proud when their team performs well and comes close even though they end up losing. Last night was a perfect example of that. Why is that comment inappropriate, or are you now the equivalent of the seat police on this board? Only company line statements allowed now?
Didn't say your comment was inappropriate, did I mow? Just amazing. whether ou see me as the equivalent of a Nazi for my amazement is of no concern to me obviously. Company line? If Pappy's original comments in this thread are company line, count me in, thank you. Well said, Pappy.
Pappy doesn't spout the company line, you do. So why did you attack my observation?
(02-14-2014 10:51 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 10:43 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 09:31 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 08:46 PM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ] (02-14-2014 12:40 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting. Most fans I've talked to would much rather get blown out. Last night's effort was an exception to my rule. Still, I would have slept a lot better if we had simply lost by 10 in regulation.
Amazing when your hating to lose heartbreakers most of all is the most one can say about last night's gallant effort.
It just seemed to be the perfect illustration of the point. Who is proud of their team when they get flattened in a blowout? No one. But fans can be proud when their team performs well and comes close even though they end up losing. Last night was a perfect example of that. Why is that comment inappropriate, or are you now the equivalent of the seat police on this board? Only company line statements allowed now?
Didn't say your comment was inappropriate, did I mow? Just amazing. whether ou see me as the equivalent of a Nazi for my amazement is of no concern to me obviously. Company line? If Pappy's original comments in this thread are company line, count me in, thank you. Well said, Pappy.
Pappy doesn't spout the company line, you do. So why did you attack my observation?
What company line is that? Try quoting me just this once rather than putting words in my mouth? And attack? Please, Peter!!!