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(02-08-2014 04:39 PM)letsgoblue Wrote: [ -> ]20 Wins and OU coming to town on Wednesday. Time to pack Savage Arena!!!!!!!!

I'm SO excited for the OU game on Wednesday! We really need to pack Savage and get some payback against the Bobcats. Remember, it is a WHITE OUT!

Ryan Autullo ‏@AutulloBlade Wrote:BSU's Turner said Juice said "Get that s*** out of here" to draw technical.

If that's true, that is a weak technical.

(02-08-2014 05:47 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ]

Ryan Autullo ‏@AutulloBlade Wrote:BSU's Turner said Juice said "Get that s*** out of here" to draw technical.

If that's true, that is a weak technical.

Must have done it with his lips not moving too cause the camera was on juice well after the play ended and his mouth didn't move.

(02-08-2014 04:42 PM)rocketdowney Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone have a valid (beside the fact that MAC refs aren't very good) reason for the Juice technical?

It's possible the ref heard something and banged the closest player to him. At the collegiate level, that seems highly unlikely.

But, since all refs blow and are incompetent, I'm sure they deliberately teed up Juice because the home team signed their checks.

If people like adunifon could ref one ms or HS game, it would shut them up forever...

(02-08-2014 08:12 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-08-2014 04:42 PM)rocketdowney Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone have a valid (beside the fact that MAC refs aren't very good) reason for the Juice technical?

It's possible the ref heard something and banged the closest player to him. At the collegiate level, that seems highly unlikely.

But, since all refs blow and are incompetent, I'm sure they deliberately teed up Juice because the home team signed their checks.

If people like adunifon could ref one ms or HS game, it would shut them up forever...

Why, when I can watch the incompetence out there today and tell you that the officiating was a joke?

(02-08-2014 08:55 PM)adunifon Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-08-2014 08:12 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-08-2014 04:42 PM)rocketdowney Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone have a valid (beside the fact that MAC refs aren't very good) reason for the Juice technical?

It's possible the ref heard something and banged the closest player to him. At the collegiate level, that seems highly unlikely.

But, since all refs blow and are incompetent, I'm sure they deliberately teed up Juice because the home team signed their checks.

If people like adunifon could ref one ms or HS game, it would shut them up forever...

Why, when I can watch the incompetence out there today and tell you that the officiating was a joke?

Why? Well because then you might realize that fans from a seat in the stands have a distinct viewing advantage, often with replays and most still cannot get it as right as the trained person, let alone agree with the other expert sitting in the row above or below. It's called respect for the difficulty of the job, something you might see if you try it.

It's a legit suggestion.

I get as frustrated and paranoid as anyone when I think a call has been missed but really, no mystery here. Refereeing is a tough job at any level, let alone at the speed of the college game. You're making management decisions at the speed of a bullet. There's no evidence really, that MAC refs are paid off or otherwise biased to hate UT or that they do any better or any worse at any other MAC game. They make the same human mistakes anyone makes on the job.

That's ignorant unless you're going to give me the training these guys get first. That's like me telling you to go do my job.

When you watch a game you shouldn't notice the refs. Instead we know their damn names. Nobody is paying to watch them influence the outcome.

Several of us posted during the game that UT needed to drop the hammer on Ball State and didn't do it. In the post-game comments video posted on the UT site, Coach Kowalczyk says the next step for the Rockets is to learn how to handle success during a game. The Rockets get too comfortable with a big lead and let teams back in the game. This comment, of course, was in response to a question about the 8-minute scoreless drought in the first half.

(02-08-2014 09:35 PM)adunifon Wrote: [ -> ]That's ignorant unless you're going to give me the training these guys get first. That's like me telling you to go do my job.

When you watch a game you shouldn't notice the refs. Instead we know their damn names. Nobody is paying to watch them influence the outcome.

Interesting world you live in, that world of perfection. Like Fanatic said, perhaps the problem really here is the fans. They really do not know what is humanly possible, let alone what talent it takes or is available. I suppose some would only be happy if the players called the game like on the playground. Might be worth a trial run.

(02-08-2014 09:50 PM)cnyrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]Several of us posted during the game that UT needed to drop the hammer on Ball State and didn't do it. In the post-game comments video posted on the UT site, Coach Kowalczyk says the next step for the Rockets is to learn how to handle success during a game. The Rockets get too comfortable with a big lead and let teams back in the game. This comment, of course, was in response to a question about the 8-minute scoreless drought in the first half.

TWO ISSUES IN THIS GAME.
1. REF SUPPOSEDLY BOTCHES A T AND PERSONAL ON JUICE.
oops, small caps.. my bad.
Ball announcer stated the game was getting chippy with a lot of language being sent indirectly towards the refs.
My thought, wrong place to snort, by Juice, on a non call.
Snort doesn't mean speaking.
2. We are so fortunate as a 20-3 team that one of our biggest problems, that we actually have, is understanding how to handle success during a game while gaining leads and then losing leads.
My thought is they know how too handle this situation.
Continual winning means more anal izing.
Just keep TKOB.

i dont get refs. only in ohio can you be flagged/teched etc for NOT TALKING. i was flagged once in football for hitting a guy on a play and i walked away and here comes the laundry.

(02-08-2014 10:10 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-08-2014 09:35 PM)adunifon Wrote: [ -> ]That's ignorant unless you're going to give me the training these guys get first. That's like me telling you to go do my job.

When you watch a game you shouldn't notice the refs. Instead we know their damn names. Nobody is paying to watch them influence the outcome.

Interesting world you live in, that world of perfection. Like Fanatic said, perhaps the problem really here is the fans. They really do not know what is humanly possible, let alone what talent it takes or is available. I suppose some would only be happy if the players called the game like on the playground. Might be worth a trial run.

Not asking for perfection. What we saw isn't anywhere close to it. Some of these college refs walk into the arena with an ego thinking they are the show.

Ive personally talked to several collegiate referees, most of whom are MAC officials. Their reputation and future assignments hinge on every game so this whole ego suggestion is complete garbage. I've yet to meet a single official-regardless of level- who actually believes people paid to see him/her work a game.

I have no problem with fans yelling or complaining during a game. Heck, sometimes it makes the game more entertaining. But until you've actually read the rule book AND are very familiar with its contents, you will never understand why an official makes a certain call. This is why officials only pay attention to criticism from fellow officials and coaches because they do know the rules.

(02-09-2014 06:58 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]Ive personally talked to several collegiate referees, most of whom are MAC officials. Their reputation and future assignments hinge on every game so this whole ego suggestion is complete garbage. I've yet to meet a single official-regardless of level- who actually believes people paid to see him/her work a game.

I have no problem with fans yelling or complaining during a game. Heck, sometimes it makes the game more entertaining. But until you've actually read the rule book AND are very familiar with its contents, you will never understand why an official makes a certain call. This is why officials only pay attention to criticism from fellow officials and coaches because they do know the rules.

I can't begin to tell you how often I've screamed at incompetent refs about ridiculous calls only to find that the replay supports their calls. You would be hard put to find a game thread on here that doesn't rip refs. Human nature I think but the calls they make are almost always correct. They miss a lot or choose to not call a lot but again, the speed of the game and attempting to maintain a flow probably account for that.

(02-08-2014 09:50 PM)cnyrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]Several of us posted during the game that UT needed to drop the hammer on Ball State and didn't do it. In the post-game comments video posted on the UT site, Coach Kowalczyk says the next step for the Rockets is to learn how to handle success during a game. The Rockets get too comfortable with a big lead and let teams back in the game. This comment, of course, was in response to a question about the 8-minute scoreless drought in the first half.

Bingo. THIS is the real issue from not only yesterday's game, but almost every MAC game we have played this season. Our team needs to find out how to maintain focus and discipline for closer to 40 minutes a game than they currently do. T on Juice and both he and Boothe fouling out would never have been more than a passing concern if we had been able to maintain a double-digit lead throughout the game. Has really only happened a few times for us from start to finish--Coppin State, home game against Detroit, maybe Akron? We are reaching that point in the season where a lack of focus and attention to detail could really bite us.

(02-09-2014 03:01 AM)crusher38 Wrote: [ -> ]i dont get refs. only in ohio can you be flagged/teched etc for NOT TALKING. i was flagged once in football for hitting a guy on a play and i walked away and here comes the laundry.

The game was in Indiana.

(02-08-2014 10:33 PM)rocketpete Wrote: [ -> ]Continual winning means more anal izing.

Hmmmm..... Not sure I'd want to keep winning

It is amazing to read the comments on this board after the game. Woman sitting a couple of rows behind me was complaining about the officials the entire game and she was a Ball St fan. Eventually I has to tell her to shut the hell up, much like i would like to do about the complaining about officiating EVERY SINGLE GAME on this board.

Do the officials miss some calls, sure. I have no idea why the technical was called on Juice, but other than that, I don't have many complaints with the officials after watching the game in person.

20-3!!! Go Rockets!!!

Not much to complain about sitting 20-3...I want to see the FB team produce similar seasons. Can you imagine both programs competing at this level year in, year out?

(02-09-2014 08:21 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote: [ -> ]Bingo. THIS is the real issue from not only yesterday's game, but almost every MAC game we have played this season. Our team needs to find out how to maintain focus and discipline for closer to 40 minutes a game than they currently do. T on Juice and both he and Boothe fouling out would never have been more than a passing concern if we had been able to maintain a double-digit lead throughout the game. Has really only happened a few times for us from start to finish--Coppin State, home game against Detroit, maybe Akron? We are reaching that point in the season where a lack of focus and attention to detail could really bite us.

A road win at Ball State is an accomplishment. But, we haven't even played Eastern yet and we'll soon be playing teams who have already played us once. Things won't be getting any easier that's for sure.