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about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers
(02-01-2014 10:07 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers

No worries. I used to be upset about good teams leaving the Belt. Now I have no problems with it, if it gives us a better chance of winning the league. The fact is, we added a GaSt team that is better than anyone we lost. UTA and Texas State are as good or better than FIU and FAU. We know GaSouthern has had very good teams in the past and will in the future.
(02-01-2014 10:07 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers

Jerry, mjs said that the sbc was better than cusa in bb, while is crazy as i have pointed out with a list of big wins by cusa and none for sbc.

My point about tech is this:


IF THEY CAN DO IT IN RUSTON, WE CAN DO IT IN LITTLE ROCK.


My point is not to rub anyone's noise in it but to raise the question of why cant we build a fun to watch, we expect to win, bcs beating, top 25 appearing basketball team in little rock.

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We can do it.
(02-01-2014 12:43 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 10:07 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers

Jerry, mjs said that the sbc was better than cusa in bb, while is crazy as i have pointed out with a list of big wins by cusa and none for sbc.

My point about tech is this:


IF THEY CAN DO IT IN RUSTON, WE CAN DO IT IN LITTLE ROCK.


My point is not to rub anyone's noise in it but to raise the question of why cant we build a fun to watch, we expect to win, bcs beating, top 25 appearing basketball team in little rock.

[Image: my3e7esa.jpg]


Cause i like winning

I don't see us becoming a Top 25 team anytime soon. Can we ever be?
I don't know. I just know that right now that only 25 teams out of around 350 are in the Top 25. The odds of anyone getting into that rarefied air are slim. Now I would like to see us in the Top 100, but we aren't there very often either.

And unlike some others, I don't think coaching, as such, is our problem. I think Steve does a good job coaching what he is able to recruit. And therein is the solution. The only way we could ever be a Top 25 team would take a drastic improvement in recruiting. And the only way that could happen would be if there was a coach out there with a great ability to recruit super talent to a school like UALR, and that could be a rare commodity. And if he even exists, where would the money come from to pay him because he would demand a lot more than we're paying right now. So yes it's possible. But I would peg the odds of it taking place at about the same as my becoming an adult film star. No need to elaborate on that point.04-cheers










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Insider; You just said it like it needs to be said. IMO now in my autumn years with not much time to be an active fan, the UALR Administration should be ashamed of it's mediocre Men's BB program. UALR with a Central Arkansas population of 500,000+ does no better than many other schools with much small population centers. I suppose it boils down to just plain lack of will on the part of the Admn. After almost 30 years as a season ticket holder, I have about decided that maybe UALR should discontinue scholarship sports.
(02-01-2014 02:48 PM)DollarBill Wrote: [ -> ]Insider; You just said it like it needs to be said. IMO now in my autumn years with not much time to be an active fan, the UALR Administration should be ashamed of it's mediocre Men's BB program. UALR with a Central Arkansas population of 500,000+ does no better than many other schools with much small population centers. I suppose it boils down to just plain lack of will on the part of the Admn. After almost 30 years as a season ticket holder, I have about decided that maybe UALR should discontinue scholarship sports.

There are many fine institutions with basketball programs that don't reach the pinnacle of success we'd all like to see here at UALR. But I wouldn't expect them to give up just because they can't be a Duke or Kansas or such. A D1 basketball program is good for students and the community, although in our case it would be nice if the community was more interested in our program.

I think we're doing pretty well with the budget we have to work with. And I see improvement in the quality of our players. Our goal should be to dominate our league. If we do that and get to the NCAA tournament on a regular basis, that will be a great accomplishment. But let's be honest. Look around the campuses of some of the schools in our league. Many are located in nice areas with a lot of space around them. We are a urban university with a lot of part time students and hampered by being tied to Fayetteville, who would be happy if we never won a basketball game. So yes, let's keep lobbying for a more successful program, but don't ever think about giving up what we have.04-cheers
I don't know who posted above, Doc or Kerry, since the posts ran together, and said that coaching is not the problem, Steve is doing a good job, but the lack of good recruiting is. Who the hell is responsible for the recruiting, Casper? So I guess the fans here that want to win something besides division championships should just forget about improving the program. Once again, we can't do any better, so suck it up and accept a crappy program. No thanks. To hell with it. I'm done after this year if no changes is made.
(02-01-2014 02:40 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 12:43 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 10:07 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers

Jerry, mjs said that the sbc was better than cusa in bb, while is crazy as i have pointed out with a list of big wins by cusa and none for sbc.

My point about tech is this:


IF THEY CAN DO IT IN RUSTON, WE CAN DO IT IN LITTLE ROCK.


My point is not to rub anyone's noise in it but to raise the question of why cant we build a fun to watch, we expect to win, bcs beating, top 25 appearing basketball team in little rock.

[Image: my3e7esa.jpg]


Cause i like winning

I don't see us becoming a Top 25 team anytime soon. Can we ever be?
I don't know. I just know that right now that only 25 teams out of around 350 are in the Top 25. The odds of anyone getting into that rarefied air are slim. Now I would like to see us in the Top 100, but we aren't there very often either.

And unlike some others, I don't think coaching, as such, is our problem. I think Steve does a good job coaching what he is able to recruit. And therein is the solution. The only way we could ever be a Top 25 team would take a drastic improvement in recruiting. And the only way that could happen would be if there was a coach out there with a great ability to recruit super talent to a school like UALR, and that could be a rare commodity. And if he even exists, where would the money come from to pay him because he would demand a lot more than we're paying right now. So yes it's possible. But I would peg the odds of it taking place at about the same as my becoming an adult film star. No need to elaborate on that point.04-cheers

Dr. J, I am glad to see you have returned to the world of reality. We are not a Top 25 program and we never will be. We don't have the resources, campus life, or fan base to make that possible. We will continue to be a solid midmajor providing quality basketball and entertainment for basketball fans in Central Arkansas. Folks who believe otherwise are simply delusional and not living in reality.







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(02-01-2014 02:48 PM)DollarBill Wrote: [ -> ]Insider; You just said it like it needs to be said. IMO now in my autumn years with not much time to be an active fan, the UALR Administration should be ashamed of it's mediocre Men's BB program. UALR with a Central Arkansas population of 500,000+ does no better than many other schools with much small population centers. I suppose it boils down to just plain lack of will on the part of the Admn. After almost 30 years as a season ticket holder, I have about decided that maybe UALR should discontinue scholarship sports.

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We dare to ask for success.

Jerry, we can drop the top 25 adn just go with fun to watch, bcs beating, top 2 in the sbc every year team.
(02-01-2014 04:30 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know who posted above, Doc or Kerry, since the posts ran together, and said that coaching is not the problem, Steve is doing a good job, but the lack of good recruiting is. Who the hell is responsible for the recruiting, Casper? So I guess the fans here that want to win something besides division championships should just forget about improving the program. Once again, we can't do any better, so suck it up and accept a crappy program. No thanks. To hell with it. I'm done after this year if no changes is made.



Bob, I say we should hold the program to putting a winning product on the floor that is fun to watch that can take down bcs schools and finishes in the top 2 every year.

Jerry says mjs kool aid is tasty.


04-cheers
(02-01-2014 04:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 02:40 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 12:43 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 10:07 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers

Jerry, mjs said that the sbc was better than cusa in bb, while is crazy as i have pointed out with a list of big wins by cusa and none for sbc.

My point about tech is this:


IF THEY CAN DO IT IN RUSTON, WE CAN DO IT IN LITTLE ROCK.


My point is not to rub anyone's noise in it but to raise the question of why cant we build a fun to watch, we expect to win, bcs beating, top 25 appearing basketball team in little rock.

[Image: my3e7esa.jpg]


Cause i like winning

I don't see us becoming a Top 25 team anytime soon. Can we ever be?
I don't know. I just know that right now that only 25 teams out of around 350 are in the Top 25. The odds of anyone getting into that rarefied air are slim. Now I would like to see us in the Top 100, but we aren't there very often either.

And unlike some others, I don't think coaching, as such, is our problem. I think Steve does a good job coaching what he is able to recruit. And therein is the solution. The only way we could ever be a Top 25 team would take a drastic improvement in recruiting. And the only way that could happen would be if there was a coach out there with a great ability to recruit super talent to a school like UALR, and that could be a rare commodity. And if he even exists, where would the money come from to pay him because he would demand a lot more than we're paying right now. So yes it's possible. But I would peg the odds of it taking place at about the same as my becoming an adult film star. No need to elaborate on that point.04-cheers

Dr. J, I am glad to see you have returned to the world of reality. We are not a Top 25 program and we never will be. We don't have the resources, campus life, or fan base to make that possible. We will continue to be a solid midmajor providing quality basketball and entertainment for basketball fans in Central Arkansas. Folks who believe otherwise are simply delusional and not living in reality.







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God you guys need to learn how to use the internets......


Micky pick a goal. I realize that Ruston getting in the top 25 is too much for us to dream for but beating bcs schools and finishing in the top 2 in the sbc while playing a fun style to watch is not.

07-coffee3
(02-01-2014 07:00 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 04:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 02:40 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 12:43 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 10:07 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]about whether the SBC is worse than Conference USA or whatever? Obviously there are a lot of conferences better than the SBC, but so what?
That's where we play, and honestly, that's all I care about. Would I like to have a Top 25 team and play in the Mo Valley, or a great basketball league?
Sure. But that's not where we are. We did move up from the old TAAC, and I think our league is fun to watch, very competitive, and you see some very good players perform night in and night out. If we were in USA, I would enjoy that also, but we're not. I'm happy for Inside that La Tech is doing well. But my only concern is the SBC right now, because that's our home. If we move to another home, then that's where my interest will lie. But that's just me. Others will obviously have different opinions and I expect and appreciate that. Go Trojans. Wallop USA Today.04-cheers

Jerry, mjs said that the sbc was better than cusa in bb, while is crazy as i have pointed out with a list of big wins by cusa and none for sbc.

My point about tech is this:


IF THEY CAN DO IT IN RUSTON, WE CAN DO IT IN LITTLE ROCK.


My point is not to rub anyone's noise in it but to raise the question of why cant we build a fun to watch, we expect to win, bcs beating, top 25 appearing basketball team in little rock.

[Image: my3e7esa.jpg]


Cause i like winning

I don't see us becoming a Top 25 team anytime soon. Can we ever be?
I don't know. I just know that right now that only 25 teams out of around 350 are in the Top 25. The odds of anyone getting into that rarefied air are slim. Now I would like to see us in the Top 100, but we aren't there very often either.

And unlike some others, I don't think coaching, as such, is our problem. I think Steve does a good job coaching what he is able to recruit. And therein is the solution. The only way we could ever be a Top 25 team would take a drastic improvement in recruiting. And the only way that could happen would be if there was a coach out there with a great ability to recruit super talent to a school like UALR, and that could be a rare commodity. And if he even exists, where would the money come from to pay him because he would demand a lot more than we're paying right now. So yes it's possible. But I would peg the odds of it taking place at about the same as my becoming an adult film star. No need to elaborate on that point.04-cheers

Dr. J, I am glad to see you have returned to the world of reality. We are not a Top 25 program and we never will be. We don't have the resources, campus life, or fan base to make that possible. We will continue to be a solid midmajor providing quality basketball and entertainment for basketball fans in Central Arkansas. Folks who believe otherwise are simply delusional and not living in reality.







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God you guys need to learn how to use the internets......


Micky pick a goal. I realize that Ruston getting in the top 25 is too much for us to dream for but beating bcs schools and finishing in the top 2 in the sbc while playing a fun style to watch is not.

07-coffee3

Problem is we're playing the wrong BCS teams04-cheers
(02-01-2014 04:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Dr. J, I am glad to see you have returned to the world of reality. We are not a Top 25 program and we never will be. We don't have the resources, campus life, or fan base to make that possible. We will continue to be a solid midmajor providing quality basketball and entertainment for basketball fans in Central Arkansas. Folks who believe otherwise are simply delusional and not living in reality.
We're not likely to be a Top 25 program, but we can break into the Top 25 on occasion. Seems like I remember us being ranked #19 once in one poll, and then dropped out after losing the next game. But it's not impossible for a good mid-major program to get in there once and awhile. And if you can just be able to flirt with a Top 25 ranking once in awhile, it's got to help with PR and recruiting. If you can beat a big name team ocassionally, it also would help in recruiting. When they see your score on ESPN beating one of the big boys every now and then, people will have heard of you when you knock on their door.
I think that is reasonable.

That is what tech will do, which be in it once in a while and get votes.

Beating bcs schools and not getting blown out so much will help a lot.


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(02-01-2014 07:44 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 04:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Dr. J, I am glad to see you have returned to the world of reality. We are not a Top 25 program and we never will be. We don't have the resources, campus life, or fan base to make that possible. We will continue to be a solid midmajor providing quality basketball and entertainment for basketball fans in Central Arkansas. Folks who believe otherwise are simply delusional and not living in reality.
We're not likely to be a Top 25 program, but we can break into the Top 25 on occasion. Seems like I remember us being ranked #19 once in one poll, and then dropped out after losing the next game. But it's not impossible for a good mid-major program to get in there once and awhile. And if you can just be able to flirt with a Top 25 ranking once in awhile, it's got to help with PR and recruiting. If you can beat a big name team ocassionally, it also would help in recruiting. When they see your score on ESPN beating one of the big boys every now and then, people will have heard of you when you knock on their door.

That Top 25 ranking Newell got was hilarious. I can swear to you this is true. My wife and I were having some beers with Mike after a game in Shreveport. Mike said he was going to call some of his coaching buddies (ex. Billy Tubbs) and get them to put us in the top 20. Low and behold we show up at number 19 the next week. Of course, we lost our next game at home to Mercer...yes Mercer, and that was the end of our ranking.
(02-01-2014 06:58 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 04:30 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know who posted above, Doc or Kerry, since the posts ran together, and said that coaching is not the problem, Steve is doing a good job, but the lack of good recruiting is. Who the hell is responsible for the recruiting, Casper? So I guess the fans here that want to win something besides division championships should just forget about improving the program. Once again, we can't do any better, so suck it up and accept a crappy program. No thanks. To hell with it. I'm done after this year if no changes is made.



Bob, I say we should hold the program to putting a winning product on the floor that is fun to watch that can take down bcs schools and finishes in the top 2 every year.

Jerry says mjs kool aid is tasty.


04-cheers



Kerry, it is OK to dream. I have been guilty of it myself at times. And if you just want to save yourself a grand to spend somewhere else, that's just a matter of choice. Maybe some day we will be able to beat Tech. If not, so be it. I'm still not going to drive to Ruston to watch basketball on Thursdays and Saturdays. We have only one home team. Hope to see you at as many games as you see fit to attend. I enjoy following our team. I am happy when we win and depressed when we lose. Usually, I am happy. Never do I feel more entitled to win than any other fan of any other school anywhere in the country.
(02-02-2014 12:58 AM)Ynocpirt Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 06:58 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-01-2014 04:30 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know who posted above, Doc or Kerry, since the posts ran together, and said that coaching is not the problem, Steve is doing a good job, but the lack of good recruiting is. Who the hell is responsible for the recruiting, Casper? So I guess the fans here that want to win something besides division championships should just forget about improving the program. Once again, we can't do any better, so suck it up and accept a crappy program. No thanks. To hell with it. I'm done after this year if no changes is made.



Bob, I say we should hold the program to putting a winning product on the floor that is fun to watch that can take down bcs schools and finishes in the top 2 every year.

Jerry says mjs kool aid is tasty.


04-cheers



Kerry, it is OK to dream. I have been guilty of it myself at times. And if you just want to save yourself a grand to spend somewhere else, that's just a matter of choice. Maybe some day we will be able to beat Tech. If not, so be it. I'm still not going to drive to Ruston to watch basketball on Thursdays and Saturdays. We have only one home team. Hope to see you at as many games as you see fit to attend. I enjoy following our team. I am happy when we win and depressed when we lose. Usually, I am happy. Never do I feel more entitled to win than any other fan of any other school anywhere in the country.

Certainly, I am happy leaving our arena the vast majority of the time. Usually we lose most of our road games like all but the top teams in the country do. Sometimes we do quite well on the road. So far this year, at least in conference (which is all that really counts for anything) we have won 4 of 6 road games. Pretty damn impressive.

With regard to LaTech's top 25 ranking, it lasted a week, just like UALR's. Didn't get them an NCAA bid or any national recognition to speak of.
Micky, you are missing my point.

I dont want to drive to ruston when we can have a team right here that is fun to watch, beats a bcs team most years, and finishes in the top 2 in the league more years than not.

The top 25 votes and getting in the top 25 are just icing.



Dare i dream or expect to much from a program like ualr?



I am voting for the above by not giving money to have the status quo continue.


Boring ball
Big blow outs
Kids dont know the plays
Less and less fans in the stands


I pray steve has a great run and finish in the ncaa tournament this year and then has the good sense to start fresh where we can too.

Jeff will make friends with the new coach and can keep his blog going.

You guys will make friends with the next guy too.

But i ask that everyone remember that the coach is here to put a fun entertaining, winning product on the floor.


The coach to see that the kids stay out of trouble and graduate, which i hear steve does but i am always confused by but what i see and feel about that part.

I wish steve well and hope he wins every game here at ualr but it is time for change win, lose or draw.


I am still friends and enjoy all the other fans of the program no matter their choice of kool aid.

You and jim have and continue to be good friends to me.

I know i have lost a friend or two over me feeling like we can do better than this but i cant help the maturity level of other people.

And i am not mad about other people feeling differently.


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Micky, you are missing my point.

I dont want to drive to ruston when we can have a team right here that is fun to watch, beats a bcs team most years, and finishes in the top 2 in the league more years than not.


That was Jim's suggestion not mine. But I don't disagree with his point.
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