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Why, no, the Democrats don’t have a problem with fundraising off dead babies.

Boehner surely didn’t bargain for this:

Since we alerted you to Republicans’ revolting anti-choice agenda, your response has been stunning! Grassroots Democrats are standing up all across the country and declaring that they’ve had ENOUGH.

If we can hit 5,000 donations to our Women’s Health Rapid Response Fund on today’s historic anniversary of Roe v. Wade, that would be a HUGE blow to Boehner and the Republicans’ anti-woman agenda.

Name: Drew Fell
Supporter record: 9610632
Suggested Support: $3.00

If you contribute $3 or more on today’s anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we’ll match your donation dollar-for-dollar

We will not stand silent while Republicans bring a bill to the House floor that could force rape survivors to face “abortion audits.”

Let’s show Boehner that there are consequences for Republicans’ unrelenting war on women:

http://dccc.org/Rapid-Response

Democrats 2014

Even the old bag on the SCOTUS, Ginsberg, thinks Roe was decided incorrectly.

It's a political weapon, nothing more.

Roe v Wade is just Dred Scott all over again. Dred Scott, a slave, was a human being with rights (but the Supreme Court said he was no different than a piece of furniture, with no rights--look it up), and so are unborn babies. It's a civil rights issue.

Sometimes, the Supreme Court gets it wrong. It may take a while to correct, but someday people will wonder why we allowed the killing of innocent unborn babies just the same as we wonder how could slavery ever have been allowed. Same issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

eta- spelling, add link.

(01-22-2014 09:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: [ -> ]Even the old bag on the SCOTUS, Ginsberg, thinks Roe was decided incorrectly.
It's a political weapon, nothing more.

True, but she disagrees it based on the way they got there not that they did.

You know what we really need around here? Spruce the place up and make our social services run even more smoothly? 55 million unwanted kids. I can't think of anything more pleasant than a neglected child. They're great and just about every neighborhood isn't complete without some.

I can't imagine the trove of treasures that awaits us as a country by forcing people to raise kids that they can't or don't want? I mean what's the downside?

Meanwhile Americans have to go overseas to adopt.

This is a front. The only fundraising Democrats need comes straight from The Fed.

The Fed doesn't get audited because Democrats don't want us to know.

Why do we limit ourselves to killing the unborn because they might not be wanted? Hell, we've got lots of people running around who we know aren't want.

(01-23-2014 07:50 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]You know what we really need around here? Spruce the place up and make our social services run even more smoothly? 55 million unwanted kids. I can't think of anything more pleasant than a neglected child. They're great and just about every neighborhood isn't complete without some.

You're too quiet on immigration issues. Means you're disingenuous.

Of course you're talking about unwanted, neglected kids. That's a straw man. Means you're dishonest too.

(01-23-2014 02:46 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2014 09:10 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: [ -> ]Even the old bag on the SCOTUS, Ginsberg, thinks Roe was decided incorrectly.
It's a political weapon, nothing more.

True, but she disagrees it based on the way they got there not that they did.

That's what being decided incorrectly means.

(01-23-2014 07:51 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]I can't imagine the trove of treasures that awaits us as a country by forcing people to raise kids that they can't or don't want? I mean what's the downside?

We are talking about choices and responsibility. I'm pro-choice-with the caveat that every choice carries with it a responsibility. Once the choice is made-if another person is created by that action- then THEY have the right to live as they were created.

I dispute that they are unwanted, as nobody likes to be on the losing end of a contest, yet you cannot win every contest you enter. Abortion is the adult equivalent of a toddler crying when he loses at a game and pouts and rants, and even hits others because he lost in order to change the outcome. Every action has a consequence. Generally, when a man and a woman choose to have sex, the natural consequence is that it is possible for a child to be conceived from that choice of action. They can choose to try to get around this possibility by obstructing it in some way (contra= against; ception=life) but there are consequences to those choices of action as well, both physical, social and spiritual, with various percentages and probabilities that go with each of those. So if they choose to have sex, their choice is saying that they are willing to take the risk of what the consequences, and the possible failure of their contraceptionary measures, might entail.

A simpler example that might help illustrate the absurdity of abortion is walking into a casino and playing blackjack. No one forces you to gamble and place your bet--which is equivalent to the sexual act--but if the house wins, you don't get to ask for your money back--it is gone and you lose. Now don't go complaining that you can't afford to lose the money you bet (or that the baby is "unwanted") when you chose to bet that is your responsibility to see that you are capable of withstanding and taking responsibility for your loss (or for the resultant conceived child who now has equal rights, and you are for equal rights for all people, right?)

Sometimes I wonder when Obama and the liberals will propose a national GambingCare program, to help redistribute money from those greedy rich folks to all the poor unfortunate people who lose their money at the casinos and lotteries.

Abortion is the same kind of ignorance and selfishness. Abortion is contradictory with the concept of being pro-choice just as slavery is contradictory--the slave could not choose, after all because he was incorrectly denied his inalienable rights. Abortion is against the concept of equal rights for the same reason. When you choose to treat everybody equally, and choose to not trample on their rights, and require them to take responsibility for their actions and consequences of their choices of actions, you improve freedom and equality for the society. The people having the sex made their choice the moment they had the sex. That is where their right to create or kill their creation ends.

There are two ways to get people to pay for a political campaign:

1. They like you so much that they'll pay regardless.
2. They're so afraid of what the others are doing that they'd pay to keep them out of power.