Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
Only the SEC will end up with more than 3.
At 12-1, UCF and Louisville should finish in the Top 10-12. They were 15th and 16th in the Coaches poll going into the bowls.
Houston has to carry its water and finish 9-4.
Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
Great multiple-possession wins over 11-2 Baylor and 9-4 Miami.
(01-02-2014 01:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
Yeah, if you think about that, ESPN got the AAC for almost nothing, and for the conference to do that well will give them huge upside to grow that product, and use that as leverage against some of the more spoiled conferences that are getting huge dollars for mediocre product. We'll literally become the hammer they use to demand better results. Why not grow that? They give the conference a good bump at renegotiation time and milk it for everything they can.
(01-02-2014 01:40 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
Yeah, if you think about that, ESPN got the AAC for almost nothing, and for the conference to do that well will give them huge upside to grow that product, and use that as leverage against some of the more spoiled conferences that are getting huge dollars for mediocre product. We'll literally become the hammer they use to demand better results. Why not grow that? They give the conference a good bump at renegotiation time and milk it for everything they can.
Or, they know how good of a product they got, and will continue to devalue it at every possible turn by saying how bad the conference is, making every non-fan of the conference believe the farse, thus allowing them to get it for pennies on the dollar during the next negotiations as well. They know what they're doing...they'll never admit the AAC is a good conference even of it does become one.
(01-02-2014 01:40 AM)Knightsweat Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
Yeah, if you think about that, ESPN got the AAC for almost nothing, and for the conference to do that well will give them huge upside to grow that product, and use that as leverage against some of the more spoiled conferences that are getting huge dollars for mediocre product. We'll literally become the hammer they use to demand better results. Why not grow that? They give the conference a good bump at renegotiation time and milk it for everything they can.
Or add BYU, NIU, AFA, Army and become a contract league in 2020...
The conference just needs stability. My Tigers need to step up next year for sure.
(01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
(01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different. You had two 10 ten teams, two more teams in the 25 to 45 range, and couple of so-so squads and a then the bottom of the league. Some years the bottom will be better and the top not as good. Most conference outside of their top two or three teams is full of very average teams that can look very good one week and very bad another week.
(01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
(01-02-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
I disagree about being ranked beneath the B1G. They have proven once again that, when it comes to head to head competition against other P5 conferences, they are beneath us and everyone else. Their only saving grace this season was having Mich St knock off Ohio St so that they wouldn't get shlt-stomped in the national title game.
(01-02-2014 01:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
Actually the announcers did admit it last night. They were saying that the American is a very underrated conference and it was time for people to admit it.
(01-02-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
FSU finally stepped up for the ACC but after FSU and Clemson there is nothing special in the ACC
(01-02-2014 10:35 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
FSU finally stepped up for the ACC but after FSU and Clemson there is nothing special in the ACC
I would even dispute that Clemson is all that good. However, FSU is the real deal and that is all that separates the AAC and the ACC. Hell even the B10 and B12 are not really that good.
(01-02-2014 10:26 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:27 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats to UCF on a great job tonight!
With Louisville blowing out Miami, if Houston can take care of Vandy, that gives our league three P5 wins in the bowl season.
UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
I disagree about being ranked beneath the B1G. They have proven once again that, when it comes to head to head competition against other P5 conferences, they are beneath us and everyone else. Their only saving grace this season was having Mich St knock off Ohio St so that they wouldn't get shlt-stomped in the national title game.
If you look at Sagarin and other computer rankings, the B1G is way ahead of the AAC this year.
(01-02-2014 01:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
And this is just the life of the Big East/American since the 2003 raid.
(01-02-2014 10:26 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 01:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Yup, turns out some pretty decent football was being played in the AAC---though Im sure ESPN will never admit it.
Actually the announcers did admit it last night. They were saying that the American is a very underrated conference and it was time for people to admit it.
Yeah I was actually really surprised by how much props they gave to the AAC
I dunno - the ESPN scroll read "UCF stuns Baylor".
Was it really a stunner??
(01-02-2014 11:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:26 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]UCF and Louisville have proven that this year, they were top-15 calibre teams capable of playing with just about anyone. In other words, our top 20% or so was top-shelf.
Sadly, a conference doesn't consist of just its two best teams. It also includes sad-sack cases like USF was this year. Overall, the AAC was terrible in comparison to other AQ conferences.
So top to bottom, going forward as a G5, we need to get a lot better in order to be the "challenger" league Aresco has claimed we are, especially with one of those two top teams exiting the conference.
Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
I disagree about being ranked beneath the B1G. They have proven once again that, when it comes to head to head competition against other P5 conferences, they are beneath us and everyone else. Their only saving grace this season was having Mich St knock off Ohio St so that they wouldn't get shlt-stomped in the national title game.
If you look at Sagarin and other computer rankings, the B1G is way ahead of the AAC this year.
Yet, when I look at them on the field, I see them behind the AAC.
(01-03-2014 11:14 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 11:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:26 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote: [ -> ]Disagree. The American and the old Big East was never going to be the SEC; however, the league always competed with the BCS leagues outside of the top 3. This year was no different.
This year was vastly different. Between 2005-2011, the old Big East was, on average, the 4th best football conference, ahead of the B1G and ACC, and was at its peak the 2nd best (in 2009).
In contrast, the AAC was far and away the weakest AQ conference this season, in 6th place, and way behind the ACC and Big 12, even though those conferences were pretty bad.
I disagree about being ranked beneath the B1G. They have proven once again that, when it comes to head to head competition against other P5 conferences, they are beneath us and everyone else. Their only saving grace this season was having Mich St knock off Ohio St so that they wouldn't get shlt-stomped in the national title game.
If you look at Sagarin and other computer rankings, the B1G is way ahead of the AAC this year.
Yet, when I look at them on the field, I see them behind the AAC.
^^^^^ THIS. Sagarin and computer rankings also said UCF had no business on the field with Baylor. How did that work out? Screw the computers. On field performance is a better more accurate indicator of a team's actual strength. As the saying goes, "junk in, junk out."