First, Middle and North Texas or gone. I don't know how our new teams will stack up talent wise with those two teams, but they were always pretty good. But Western is always good, so I'm guessing that they will be the team to beat this year when it comes right down to it.
Now our situation. We probably have the best point guard we've had, maybe ever, and good back ups. We have several players capable of shooting the perimeter shot well, and we have good inside play, both scoring and rebounding, assuming that Will and James stay healthy. Leroy gives us a good defensive stopper, and Gus will play hard in giving the above two a little rest, and if Poulter and Hill can hold their own for short periods, that will help. So for the first time I can ever recall, we have capable talent at every position. Of course you can't anticipate injuries, but if we can keep everyone healthy, I think we will be in the hunt until the end.
(01-01-2014 04:36 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Now our situation. We probably have the best point guard we've had, maybe ever, and good back ups. We have several players capable of shooting the perimeter shot well, and we have good inside play, both scoring and rebounding, assuming that Will and James stay healthy. Leroy gives us a good defensive stopper, and Gus will play hard in giving the above two a little rest, and if Poulter and Hill can hold their own for short periods, that will help. So for the first time I can ever recall, we have capable talent at every position. Of course you can't anticipate injuries, but if we can keep everyone healthy, I think we will be in the hunt until the end.
It's amazing how quickly we can anoint one of our players "the best we've ever had," after a
handful of home games, and several of those against roody poos competition. But we can't tell after ten plus years that we need a new coach. Amazing.
I think we will win because the league is weak and we have some players. its all on steve to set the table.
(01-01-2014 07:29 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]I think we will win because the league is week and we have some players. its all on steve to set the table.
I don't think is league is weak- it is deeper than I ever remember it being. Only thing is we don't have a dominant team like MTSU has been the last couple of years.
I think I could call it weak at the top, relatively speaking. But perhaps stronger in the middle. And deeper.
Guys the league was 40-61 in d1 games.
Top to bottom this is as weak as it has ever been in the time i have been following it.
We have the most talent, other than the ole miss transfer teams, that we have ever had.
This thing is there for the taking.
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(01-01-2014 08:48 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Guys the league was 40-61 in d1 games.
I believe it. We don't have the top teams this year to win those tough D1 games.
(01-01-2014 08:58 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2014 08:48 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Guys the league was 40-61 in d1 games.
I believe it. We don't have the top teams this year to win those tough D1 games.
Those numbers are meaningless. What percentage of those games were played on the road? What percentage were against BCS schools? Seems like attendance is down everywhere (especially midmajors and below) and thus more of our teams are playing body-bag money games. Yes, we lost 60% of our out of conference games, but I bet Sun Belt schools played 60% or more of those on the road. The last time I checked the Sun Belt was ranked 13th in the RPI, well ahead of ConUSA, and the highest I can recall in years (Pappy may have a better feel for this than I do).
(01-01-2014 05:23 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2014 04:36 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Now our situation. We probably have the best point guard we've had, maybe ever, and good back ups. We have several players capable of shooting the perimeter shot well, and we have good inside play, both scoring and rebounding, assuming that Will and James stay healthy. Leroy gives us a good defensive stopper, and Gus will play hard in giving the above two a little rest, and if Poulter and Hill can hold their own for short periods, that will help. So for the first time I can ever recall, we have capable talent at every position. Of course you can't anticipate injuries, but if we can keep everyone healthy, I think we will be in the hunt until the end.
It's amazing how quickly we can anoint one of our players "the best we've ever had," after a handful of home games, and several of those against roody poos competition. But we can't tell after ten plus years that we need a new coach. Amazing.
Judging a player is a subjective thing. I just see things in D'Vonte that I don't recall seeing in hardly any point guard I've ever seen play for us.
He's extremely quick in getting the ball down the floor, makes passes I've never seen our point guards make and can get to the basket at times.
I just think he could be one of our best. Some might disagree. And only time will tell. The coaches thing is a different deal, and the only opinion that counts there is Chris's so there's no need to pursue that avenue.
We've all pretty well expressed our opinions so I'm getting off that horse for now. Let's see what happens this season. It's all in front of us.
(01-01-2014 11:43 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2014 08:58 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2014 08:48 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Guys the league was 40-61 in d1 games.
I believe it. We don't have the top teams this year to win those tough D1 games.
Those numbers are meaningless. What percentage of those games were played on the road? What percentage were against BCS schools? Seems like attendance is down everywhere (especially midmajors and below) and thus more of our teams are playing body-bag money games. Yes, we lost 60% of our out of conference games, but I bet Sun Belt schools played 60% or more of those on the road. The last time I checked the Sun Belt was ranked 13th in the RPI, well ahead of ConUSA, and the highest I can recall in years (Pappy may have a better feel for this than I do).
tons of body bag road games.
I have ocean front property to sell you in Arkansas if you think the sbc is better than cusa in basketball.
ulm has a high rpi due to playing a bunch of great teams. We all know how rpi works. you win a d1 game against a mid type team and you can go down and you lose to a great team and you go up.
Name the good teams in the sbc? ull and wku?
Name the team in the league that will win a game in the ncaa this year.
We are the 13th best conference, we have to have a team that can win a game, right?
That team will have to have a rpi of 100 or better to draw a seed better than a 14 right to really have a chance.
Who is it?
Pappy what was the signature win in the sbc this year?
In years past when the conference was stronger we had good wins.
High number of home games (against d1 teams)
WKU – 7
ULL – 4
USA – 4
Notes: Not a whole hell of a lot of d1 home games this year in the ooc
High number of road games
Tx st – 8
Uta – 7
UALR – 7
GSU – 7
Conference record against d1 schools in ooc
ULL 6-4
ASU – 6-4
WKU 7-5
GSU 5-6
USA 3-7
UALR 3-7
UTA 3-7
TROY 3-7
ULM 2-5
TX ST 2-9
just to make the rpi theory clear
No name wins by cusa this year
charlotte over mich, ksu
utep over wsu, tenn
uab over unc ( your kid went to school there), neb, rutg
la tech over okla
so miss over dep
sbc is really weak this year and we have the talent to win it. I understand hedging our bets by under selling but truth is this thing is here for the taking.
Out of the 3 boards I read the other 2 feel like their team will win.
Here in a up year for us in talent and a down year for the league we play in the main folks that feel like we can win it are the main guys saying we need change at the top for the program to move forward past fielding a team......
We are going to go win these two road games because we have talent and they don't.
Mark me down for a sweep on the road trip.
The only team that might be putting some distance between itself and the field is ULL, and not much even there.
ULL is my pick to win it on paper but they are a 1 2 punch and then things fall off.
We can win this thing. Everyone had a crap occ accept the two teams that had home games.
We have looked better on offense moving the ball than any ualr team in the past. Steve can coach defense, so they will come around. Rebounding in conference will be ok.
It is there for the taking. Can Steve do it? Let's hope.
(01-02-2014 08:21 AM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]just to make the rpi theory clear
No name wins by cusa this year
charlotte over mich, ksu
utep over wsu, tenn
uab over unc ( your kid went to school there), neb, rutg
la tech over okla
so miss over dep
sbc is really weak this year and we have the talent to win it. I understand hedging our bets by under selling but truth is this thing is here for the taking.
Out of the 3 boards I read the other 2 feel like their team will win.
Here in a up year for us in talent and a down year for the league we play in the main folks that feel like we can win it are the main guys saying we need change at the top for the program to move forward past fielding a team......
We are going to go win these two road games because we have talent and they don't.
Mark me down for a sweep on the road trip.
Boy, you are an optimist. I'll take a split on a 2 game road trip any time. Yes, we could win both. Losing both is just as likely. That's why I'd take a split. Of course, if we win tonight, I'm all in on getting a sweep.
(01-02-2014 09:35 AM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 08:21 AM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]just to make the rpi theory clear
No name wins by cusa this year
charlotte over mich, ksu
utep over wsu, tenn
uab over unc ( your kid went to school there), neb, rutg
la tech over okla
so miss over dep
sbc is really weak this year and we have the talent to win it. I understand hedging our bets by under selling but truth is this thing is here for the taking.
Out of the 3 boards I read the other 2 feel like their team will win.
Here in a up year for us in talent and a down year for the league we play in the main folks that feel like we can win it are the main guys saying we need change at the top for the program to move forward past fielding a team......
We are going to go win these two road games because we have talent and they don't.
Mark me down for a sweep on the road trip.
Boy, you are an optimist. I'll take a split on a 2 game road trip any time. Yes, we could win both. Losing both is just as likely. That's why I'd take a split. Of course, if we win tonight, I'm all in on getting a sweep.
Of course, your optimism made me book my reservations in New Orleans early. Hope you are right.
(01-02-2014 08:48 AM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]ULL is my pick to win it on paper but they are a 1 2 punch and then things fall off.
Their Big Two score right at half their points. Get either of them in foul trouble and ULL's move to Plan B is a big move. The most lopsided scoring distribution of any team I have seen lately. They do have a couple of other good shooters, but they are not shooting much.
They would have a match-up decision with Will, like everyone else, I suspect. Who do they put on him? Long has 34 blocks; no one else on their team has more than 5, so they depend on him to be their eraser. (Nice luxury to have, especially with the new rules.) If they put him on Will, then we can draw out to the perimeter. Their height in the starting lineup drops from Long at 6-9 down to 6-6. Do you put the 6-6 on Will? Same matchup problems Will causes everyone.
(01-01-2014 08:48 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Guys the league was 40-61 in d1 games.
Top to bottom this is as weak as it has ever been in the time i have been following it.
We have the most talent, other than the ole miss transfer teams, that we have ever had.
This thing is there for the taking.
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I think comparing the OOC league record with other years is you aren't always playing the same level of competition. I can't speak for the other teams, but when you play Oklahoma, Florida and Memphis type teams, your record could be worse than in years where your league teams don't play that type of competition. And I think we have more talent overall then we did with the Ole Miss transfer teams.
(01-02-2014 09:37 AM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:35 AM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 08:21 AM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]just to make the rpi theory clear
No name wins by cusa this year
charlotte over mich, ksu
utep over wsu, tenn
uab over unc ( your kid went to school there), neb, rutg
la tech over okla
so miss over dep
sbc is really weak this year and we have the talent to win it. I understand hedging our bets by under selling but truth is this thing is here for the taking.
Out of the 3 boards I read the other 2 feel like their team will win.
Here in a up year for us in talent and a down year for the league we play in the main folks that feel like we can win it are the main guys saying we need change at the top for the program to move forward past fielding a team......
We are going to go win these two road games because we have talent and they don't.
Mark me down for a sweep on the road trip.
Boy, you are an optimist. I'll take a split on a 2 game road trip any time. Yes, we could win both. Losing both is just as likely. That's why I'd take a split. Of course, if we win tonight, I'm all in on getting a sweep.
Of course, your optimism made me book my reservations in New Orleans early. Hope you are right.
Micky, I believe that we can win it. The league is weak and we have the talent.
I think this team could have won as many games as wku with their schedule.
Just too many road games.
we got our ass handed to us in canada and by nf. we got lucky on the road to win one but with less travel we should be ready to go into conference.
(01-02-2014 12:48 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Micky, I believe that we can win it. The league is weak and we have the talent.
I'm a believer (ref. the Monkees in about 1968?). We have a few areas in which we are pretty good this year. Teams win when when they maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses.
Our weaknesses? Perimeter defense. Post turnovers. Maybe depth at post (jury out yet ref. Poulter). What else?
(01-02-2014 12:48 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:37 AM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 09:35 AM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (01-02-2014 08:21 AM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]just to make the rpi theory clear
No name wins by cusa this year
charlotte over mich, ksu
utep over wsu, tenn
uab over unc ( your kid went to school there), neb, rutg
la tech over okla
so miss over dep
sbc is really weak this year and we have the talent to win it. I understand hedging our bets by under selling but truth is this thing is here for the taking.
Out of the 3 boards I read the other 2 feel like their team will win.
Here in a up year for us in talent and a down year for the league we play in the main folks that feel like we can win it are the main guys saying we need change at the top for the program to move forward past fielding a team......
We are going to go win these two road games because we have talent and they don't.
Mark me down for a sweep on the road trip.
Boy, you are an optimist. I'll take a split on a 2 game road trip any time. Yes, we could win both. Losing both is just as likely. That's why I'd take a split. Of course, if we win tonight, I'm all in on getting a sweep.
Of course, your optimism made me book my reservations in New Orleans early. Hope you are right.
Micky, I believe that we can win it. The league is weak and we have the talent.
I think this team could have won as many games as wku with their schedule.
Just too many road games.
we got our ass handed to us in canada and by nf. we got lucky on the road to win one but with less travel we should be ready to go into conference.
So your reasons for believing we will win the conference are 1. We got whipped by NAIA quality teams in Canada 2. We lost to a weak team from the old TAAC 3. We were lucky to beat a SWAC team on the road 4. The bus trip to San Marcos is only about 10 hours.
I don't follow your reasoning, but I think we have an excellent chance of matching (or even bettering) the 11 conference win we got last season. Should be a fun season.