(12-10-2013 10:47 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2013 10:26 AM)adcorbett Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2013 10:04 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote: [ -> ]The only thing that matters is sales through your school. 7k is pathetic as is 14k to a bcs bowl down the street from your school. You claim UL had 30k but I really doubt that given they couldn't even sell out their allotment. If ucf had the sugar bowl we would have sold our allotment easily. Same with orange obviously. As for fiesta, 10k would be a great number and 4x more than uconn sent when they went.
Maybe if you read a little more, and don't get so defensive, you will learn something. My exact words were "Well Florida had about 20,000 people there. As stated on another thread, they get a benefit of the doubt us smaller schools don't, and are not penalized from buying outside of the school.,. These were the EXACT words I used that you decided to try to correct me on, which was me specifically saying they may have only bought X amount through their school, but "they" still get credit for how many showed up, while those from outside the power club, do not. Is this so hard to understand? And, as stated, it was explained in THE OTHER thread on this subject. Or do I need to repeat that for you too?
What are you talking about this is my first post. 7k is pathetic. 14k is pathetic to the sugar bowl. UL and uf sales were pathetic. Do I need to repeat it again?
If you are that thick headed? I speak English very well and made perfectly clear what I said. I don't know what to tell you. When the BOWL people know how many you have, you can come back and talk. When the Sugar Bowl president publicly thanks your AD on the podium, after the game, for "bringing 35,000 fans and saving the Sugar Bowl" you can talk about other teams. When the Orange Bowl thanks you for bringing 40,000 fans, you can talk about other teams bowls. When your team sells 9,000 tickets, and most of your fans think one benefactor bought most of them, and the majority of your fans are complaining about the cost, then you can lecture me.
what I said, and was perfectly clear was that when you have NEVER been to a bowl, or a major one, the seats you buy through your school are what you are held to. When you have been there before, you are given latitude. In the case of the Sugar Bowl, the only tickets they made available for each school were in the corners and upper decks. Many local brokers had bought the majority of tickets because they were expecting it to be Georgia vs. Oklahoma and they were expecting 50,000 from each. Then NIU became BCS eligible. And the Sugar picked Florida over Georgia. When it was Louisville vs. Florida, because Florida doesn't travel near as well as Georgia, and Louisville not as well as Oklahoma, the brokers didn't not wait and simultaneously flooded the market with tickets, and made it impossible for the schools to sell them. Louisville had sold a bunch of tickets already because they had been selling BCS tickets for a month. Florida never thought they were going to a BCS Bowl so they didn't start selling them until after they were picked. But Louisville and Florida were selling $150 - $220 seats on the fourth level, while $75 seats in the lower deck were being sold by Super Dome ticket brokers. Louisville sold most because they were already sold, but could not sell anymore once word got out about the price of outside tickets. Same with Florida. Want to know why people bought them outside of the schools? That's why. But I mean UCF had ever been to a New Year's Day bowl, you might know about that. I mean but why let facts get in the way.
Now, as I said, if you are a FIRST time participant, you don't get that luxury. Happened the first year we went to the Gator Bowl. The Gator Bowl people actually complained about lack of ticket sales from UofL, because they had only sold 10,000 of the 12,000 tickets. Our fans had known that buying thru the school gets you the worst seats so we went around the school. This gave the school a black eye. Come the week of the game, Cards fans were seen everywhere in Jacksonville, And come game time 35,000 Cards fans showed up, and it was completely reversed. But that ONLY happened because we had more than Virginia Tech and it was an overwhelming number. Had say 20,000 showed up, even though that is far more than the 17,500, the black eye would have persisted. The NEXT year, at the Orange Bowl, they did not care how many tickets were bought thru the school, because the reputation had already been earned, and when the school said they would bring 30,000, they took them at their word. When 40,000 UofL fans showed up, they didn't care that 4,000 tickets were returned. Of course the other thing that helps is our fans are known to party and you know when they are in town, because the local bars get flooded. That actually helped our cause because fans were seen around town for a week, which is really the key, as these bowls are all about tourism (who do you think owns the bowls) anyway.
Now, how does this relate to UCF? Well you will ONLY get the benefit of the doubt if you either sell your allotment (and then some), or if you have double the allotment show up. One or the other. Cincinnati did this. They sold out their Sugar Bowl allotment, then called them up and asked for more. Louisville did it by having double the allotment show up from three January bowls. West Virginia did it because you could see the trail of RV's.
Can UCF do it? You are dealt a mildly bad hand because you have to fly to Glendale. But we (Cincy, Louisville) all have to fly to Miami to go to the Orange Bowl, and we all did it. And UConn had to fly as far as you all do, only they had to do so with an 8-4 team, and they STILL got 10,000 to show up.
You can get mad. You can get defensive. But UCF is not dealing with anything other schools here have to deal with. Wanted to be in a big boy conference? now you are. Show you belong.
Can UCF step up to the plate?
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I was at the game and saw the crowd. There were 55,000 people there, about 35,000 UofL fans and about 20,000 Florida fans. I have pictures to prove it.
What?