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might rutgers be this year's USF

njndirish Wrote:might rutgers be this year's USF

please explain....

Considering they finished tied in the standings last year, maybe it's a safe bet lmfao

Rutgers will be as good as, if not better, than last year. They have one heck of a rushing attack coming back.

question for guys. In Florida, there are rules against the number of partial qualifyers that a state school can accept. Now I know the Big East changed the rules conference wide, but my question is this. From state to state, there are differences between what schools can accept in reference to grades of the students.

Does it vary widely in the big east when it comes to certain schools can get kids in easier? When I was in NY over the winter holidays, I ran into a recruiting party at ESPN for Rutgers. I met several of theme and they seemed pretty nice, so I followed their recruitment. In doing so, I read several times that Rutgers can get students in that others can't. I also ask this question because Rutgers holds their summer football camps in Florida.

BJUnklFkr Wrote:Considering they finished tied in the standings last year, maybe it's a safe bet lmfao

Actually we finished ahead of you based on higher overall record.

Sir Galahad Wrote:question for guys. In Florida, there are rules against the number of partial qualifyers that a state school can accept. Now I know the Big East changed the rules conference wide, but my question is this. From state to state, there are differences between what schools can accept in reference to grades of the students.

Does it vary widely in the big east when it comes to certain schools can get kids in easier? When I was in NY over the winter holidays, I ran into a recruiting party at ESPN for Rutgers. I met several of theme and they seemed pretty nice, so I followed their recruitment. In doing so, I read several times that Rutgers can get students in that others can't. I also ask this question because Rutgers holds their summer football camps in Florida.

We don't take partial qualifiers to the best of my knowledge but we have lower standards for athletes than the regular applicant. Many schools have standards that are only slightly lower. That being said we don't have these kids in bs majors and we have an excellent and well funded academic support team. These guys are expected to work good and hard in the classroom.

As for us holding our summer camps in Florida we hold some in Florida and some in New Jersey. These are our biggest recruiting targets, NJ, NY, Eastern PA, and Florida. With GS's connection to Florida it makes sense to hold camps there in addition to New Jersey.

Rutgers will not do as well because their quarterback is an underclassman. He has to learn the system.

brista21 Wrote:

Sir Galahad Wrote:question for guys. In Florida, there are rules against the number of partial qualifyers that a state school can accept. Now I know the Big East changed the rules conference wide, but my question is this. From state to state, there are differences between what schools can accept in reference to grades of the students.

Does it vary widely in the big east when it comes to certain schools can get kids in easier? When I was in NY over the winter holidays, I ran into a recruiting party at ESPN for Rutgers. I met several of theme and they seemed pretty nice, so I followed their recruitment. In doing so, I read several times that Rutgers can get students in that others can't. I also ask this question because Rutgers holds their summer football camps in Florida.

We don't take partial qualifiers to the best of my knowledge but we have lower standards for athletes than the regular applicant. Many schools have standards that are only slightly lower.

Now, no Big East school takes non-qualifiers, but Rutgers did, prior to the change in Big East rules. Only current football school that didn't take non-qualifiers was Syracuse. Prior to the ACC raid, it was Boston College and Syracuse - Miami and VT did take non-qualifiers. As ACC teams, they no longer can either.

But you are right, the NCAA standards for full qualifiers is lower than some schools' admissions standards, so athletes do get in at a lower standard than regularly admitted students. Of the Big East football schools, Rutgers' and Syracuse's academic support services are considered model programs and have had other ADs come to those colleges to learn more about these programs/services - such as Debbie Yow from Maryland visiting Syracuse a few years back.

Cheers,
Neil

Sir Galahad Wrote:question for guys. In Florida, there are rules against the number of partial qualifyers that a state school can accept. Now I know the Big East changed the rules conference wide, but my question is this. From state to state, there are differences between what schools can accept in reference to grades of the students.

Does it vary widely in the big east when it comes to certain schools can get kids in easier? When I was in NY over the winter holidays, I ran into a recruiting party at ESPN for Rutgers. I met several of theme and they seemed pretty nice, so I followed their recruitment. In doing so, I read several times that Rutgers can get students in that others can't. I also ask this question because Rutgers holds their summer football camps in Florida.

Poor guru....always digging.

Funny how you made up stories about all of USF's partial "qualifyers" yet you just admitted that the State of Florida has limits to how many non-Qualifiers they can take. You can't have it both ways.

BTW, just to be clear that rule got abolished when the board of regents was disbanded in the late 1990s. Before the rule was that any public school could only take 5 partial qualfiers with only 2 per year in any particular sport. The rule did not make any differentiation between Division I-A or Division I-AA since it was a specific State of Florida rule.

Today, USF might take one or two partial/non-qualifiers or whatever the hell they are calling them today. Every school does including Florida.

That is why your earlier comments about USF being Marshall are so laughingly ignorant but then consider the source.

bitcruncher Wrote:Rutgers will be as good as, if not better, than last year. They have one heck of a rushing attack coming back.

They have no QB ready to replace Ryan Hart.

If Teal hasn't improved from what I saw during USF's game against the Rutgers it could be a long year while they develop a QB. The difference between Rutgers and USF is that the Bulls have a much better defense. That alone can keep you in ball games and win you games.

CyberBull Wrote:

bitcruncher Wrote:Rutgers will be as good as, if not better, than last year. They have one heck of a rushing attack coming back.

They have no QB ready to replace Ryan Hart.

If Teal hasn't improved from what I saw during USF's game against the Rutgers it could be a long year while they develop a QB. The difference between Rutgers and USF is that the Bulls have a much better defense. That alone can keep you in ball games and win you games.

With one year under his belt already, you can bet Teal will be better.

I think Teal will be solid, I know he was banged up for a couple of games last year. I think he gets much much better this year. The only place rutgers might be hurting is defense, but they easily have the third best offense in the league. I think they will be bowling again, but I would say Rutgers and USF are even at this point. I haven't seen or read anything that would make me give the edge over the other at this point. I have to see both teams strap it up first.