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Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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that means Auburn and Missouri will almost certainly pass Clemson this week.

Oklahoma St doesn't like these numbers at all. They are the biggest South Carolina fans on the planet right about now.

(11-24-2013 01:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

I see a team that just broke the Top 25 who'd be a perfect addition to the Big12 to give them a CCG

(11-24-2013 01:46 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

(11-24-2013 01:37 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]that means Auburn and Missouri will almost certainly pass Clemson this week.

Oklahoma St doesn't like these numbers at all. They are the biggest South Carolina fans on the planet right about now.

Oklahoma State still has to play Oklahoma.

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:46 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

(11-24-2013 01:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:37 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]that means Auburn and Missouri will almost certainly pass Clemson this week.

Oklahoma St doesn't like these numbers at all. They are the biggest South Carolina fans on the planet right about now.

Oklahoma State still has to play Oklahoma.

Even if they win, they get the Big 12 title and the Fiesta Bowl and that's it, unless they get a whole stack of miracles to fall their way.

Alabama-Auburn doesn't help them because the winner will be ahead of Ok St no matter who it is. The only way Ok St can possibly finish ahead of the SEC champ is if Mizzou loses to TAMU and South Carolina wins the SEC title game.

Which means they need to win over OU and they need a FSU loss and an OSU loss, and they might also need South Carolina to beat Clemson, and it would be best for them if Alabama wins out to ensure that every other SEC team has at least 2 losses.

(11-24-2013 02:18 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:46 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

Teams will be chosen based on several factors including conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparing common opponents and injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/2995953/

(11-24-2013 02:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:18 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:46 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

Teams will be chosen based on several factors including conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparing common opponents and injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/2995953/

I think you better read that again. It says "Conference Championship" It does not say wining a "Conference Chamnpionship game". Big difference

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)jnewyouth Wrote: [ -> ]I see a team that just broke the Top 25 who'd be a perfect addition to the Big12 to give them a CCG

Who has wins over winless Miami (Ohio), winless vs. FBS Purdue, prior to this week winless UConn (only win over Temple), 1-10 Temple, Northwestern St. of Louisiana, 3-7 Memphis, along with 5-5 Rutgers, 5-5 SMU and 7-4 Houston to go with a loss to South Florida (only other win vs. UConn) and a 45-17 loss to Illinois (4-7 with only other wins vs. winless Miami, winless vs. FBS Purdue and FCS S. Illinois)? That has to be the ugliest record of any team ever ranked in the coaches poll.

(11-24-2013 03:19 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)jnewyouth Wrote: [ -> ]I see a team that just broke the Top 25 who'd be a perfect addition to the Big12 to give them a CCG

Who has wins over winless Miami (Ohio), winless vs. FBS Purdue, prior to this week winless UConn (only win over Temple), 1-10 Temple, Northwestern St. of Louisiana, 3-7 Memphis, along with 5-5 Rutgers, 5-5 SMU and 7-4 Houston to go with a loss to South Florida (only other win vs. UConn) and a 45-17 loss to Illinois (4-7 with only other wins vs. winless Miami, winless vs. FBS Purdue and FCS S. Illinois)? That has to be the ugliest record of any team ever ranked in the coaches poll.

West Virginia used to regularly be in the ranking polls once upon a time...

Not sure how anyone who isn't a Sun Belt coach votes for Louisiana-Lafayette. They've made NMSU and Georgia State look tough, let alone their losses.

Sat, Aug 31 @

Arkansas
L
34-14
0-1 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 7 @

Kansas State
L
48-27
0-2 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 14 vs

Nicholls State
W
70-7
1-2 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 21 @

Akron
W
35-30
2-2 (0-0)
Sat, Oct 5 vs

Texas State
W
48-24
3-2 (1-0)
Tue, Oct 15 @

W Kentucky
W
37-20
4-2 (2-0)
Tue, Oct 22 @

Arkansas State
W
23-7
5-2 (3-0)
Sat, Nov 2 vs

New Mexico St
W
49-35
6-2 (3-0)
Thu, Nov 7 vs

Troy
W
41-36
7-2 (4-0)
Sat, Nov 16 @

Georgia State
W
35-21
8-2 (5-0)

(11-24-2013 01:46 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Big 12 really needs a CCG for the future playoff.

1. Alabama (11-0) (1544 points) (56 first-place votes)

2. Florida State (11-0) (1488) (6)

3. Ohio State (11-0) (1428)

4. Clemson (10-1) (1289)

5. Auburn (10-1) (1268)

6. Missouri (10-1) (1243)

7. Oklahoma State (10-1) (1225)

8. Baylor (9-1) (1009)

9. South Carolina (9-2) (1003)

10. Stanford (9-2) (981)

11. Michigan State (10-1) (962)

12. Oregon (9-2) (777)

13. Fresno State (10-0) (687)

14. Wisconsin (9-2) (661)

15. LSU (8-3) (646)

16. Louisville (10-1) (603)

17. Oklahoma (9-2) (581)

18. Arizona State (9-2) (574)

19. Central Florida (9-1) (512)

20. Northern Illinois (11-0) (459)

21. Texas A&M (8-3) (410)

22. UCLA (8-3) (257)

23. Southern California (9-3) (210)

24. Duke (9-2) (203)

25. Cincinnati (9-2) (47)

Dropped out: No. 23 Minnesota (8-3, lost to then No. 17 Wisconsin 20-7).

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame (8-3) 17; Minnesota (8-3) 12; Texas (7-3) 12; East Carolina (9-2) 11; Georgia (7-4) 8; Nebraska (8-3) 7; Louisiana-Lafayette (8-2) 6; Miami (Fla.) (8-3) 6; Arizona (7-4) 2; Vanderbilt (7-4) 2.

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What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

Depends on who they added to get to 12. If they added Louisville and Cincy along with WVU it might not be ksu.

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)jnewyouth Wrote: [ -> ]I see a team that just broke the Top 25 who'd be a perfect addition to the Big12 to give them a CCG

I see two Top 25 teams that would fit just fine.

(11-24-2013 03:01 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:18 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:46 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]What good would a CGH do the Big12. If they had one this year OSU, Baylor or Texas would likely be playing Kansas State.

Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

Teams will be chosen based on several factors including conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparing common opponents and injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/2995953/

I think you better read that again. It says "Conference Championship" It does not say wining a "Conference Chamnpionship game". Big difference

Would you rather be 11-1, or 12-1?

(11-24-2013 04:25 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 03:01 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:18 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

Teams will be chosen based on several factors including conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparing common opponents and injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/2995953/

I think you better read that again. It says "Conference Championship" It does not say wining a "Conference Chamnpionship game". Big difference

Would you rather be 11-1, or 12-1?

I think in a lot of ways that's splitting hairs. I mean this year- I think if Michigan St beat Ohio St- Oklahoma St would be in the playoff over Michigan St- even with Michigan St having an extra win

(11-24-2013 04:25 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 03:01 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:18 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 01:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Considering there are not divisions in the Big 12 no idea why you picked KState? 1 loss ACC and SEC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, and the same thing happened last year when KState lost late and fell out of
the top 4 (with 1 loss).

If 1 loss SEC, ACC or PAC teams are above 1 loss Big 12 teams, then
certainly that will even be more when comparing 12-1 teams vs. 11-1
Big 12 teams. Also the playoff selection committee has stated that
winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

Teams will be chosen based on several factors including conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparing common opponents and injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/2995953/

I think you better read that again. It says "Conference Championship" It does not say wining a "Conference Chamnpionship game". Big difference

Would you rather be 11-1, or 12-1?

Do you agree that winning a CCG is not necessary to get in the playoff? And would you rather be 11-1 or 11-2?

(11-24-2013 01:23 PM)epasnoopy Wrote: [ -> ]This is in regards to the Coaches Poll:

(11-24-2013 12:48 PM)flscniu Wrote: [ -> ]Two weeks ago, Fresno was #14 with 646 votes to NIU's #21 with 445 for a 201 vote advantage.

After the past two weeks, Fresno is now #13 with 687 votes to NIU's #20 with 459 votes, a 228 vote advantage.

So Fresno having a bye week and beating New Mexico at home was worth more than beating Ball State at home and Toledo on the road.

(11-24-2013 05:31 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 04:25 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 03:01 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2013 02:18 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry, but you are wrong. The Playoff selection committee has NOT stated that winning a CCG will be included in the playoff selection criteria. I challenge you to show me where that happened.

Teams will be chosen based on several factors including conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparing common opponents and injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/2995953/

I think you better read that again. It says "Conference Championship" It does not say wining a "Conference Chamnpionship game". Big difference

Would you rather be 11-1, or 12-1?

Do you agree that winning a CCG is not necessary to get in the playoff? And would you rather be 11-1 or 11-2?

So you are in favor of ***** football? You will not address what happened this year and last year the the Big 12.