10-31-2013, 04:09 PM
10-31-2013, 04:17 PM
Never mind, I found a story about him.
10-31-2013, 08:58 PM
(10-31-2013 10:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:22 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling that those scholarships that are carried forward will be filled with quality recruits.(10-31-2013 09:22 AM)Lion Pride Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 08:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 08:21 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]so we need another in between player considering our roster? This situation was not totally ODU's fault. Get over it. He was not the second coming or going to get us into the NCAA any time soon
I remind you he is the same size as VCU's best player, who plays power forward and if he is starting for Niagara as a true Freshman. I submit he would be much more useful to us than the 2 unfilled scholarships or however many walk-ons we are going to use to field a team. Are you really that stupid to buy that line or are you just trying to polish a turd to justify Jones's bonehead move in your own mind?
It's time to move on and just because others have differing opinions, it doesn't make them stupid.
Agreed, one can have a bad opinion without being stupid. My response was in poor taste and apologize.
I am just frustrated we are filling our roster with walk-ons and ineligible transfers, sitting on 2 schollies (3 if you count Anton), we let this good one slip away, and people are saying, and I paraphrase, "oh well we didn't need the kid anyway."
It's like needing a car, but not sure which one to get. So you buy a used car to drive for a year until you have done your research and know exactly what you want, and then commit to the hefty 60 month payment plan on a new car.
Who gets a 5 year car note? No offense but Snowden is starting at Niagara not Kentucky. The same people who are mad because we don't have Snowden would be pi$$ed off if Jones and co were bringing in recruits that had offers at Niagara.
11-01-2013, 07:56 AM
(10-31-2013 08:58 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:22 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling that those scholarships that are carried forward will be filled with quality recruits.(10-31-2013 09:22 AM)Lion Pride Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 08:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I remind you he is the same size as VCU's best player, who plays power forward and if he is starting for Niagara as a true Freshman. I submit he would be much more useful to us than the 2 unfilled scholarships or however many walk-ons we are going to use to field a team. Are you really that stupid to buy that line or are you just trying to polish a turd to justify Jones's bonehead move in your own mind?
It's time to move on and just because others have differing opinions, it doesn't make them stupid.
Agreed, one can have a bad opinion without being stupid. My response was in poor taste and apologize.
I am just frustrated we are filling our roster with walk-ons and ineligible transfers, sitting on 2 schollies (3 if you count Anton), we let this good one slip away, and people are saying, and I paraphrase, "oh well we didn't need the kid anyway."
It's like needing a car, but not sure which one to get. So you buy a used car to drive for a year until you have done your research and know exactly what you want, and then commit to the hefty 60 month payment plan on a new car.
Who gets a 5 year car note? No offense but Snowden is starting at Niagara not Kentucky. The same people who are mad because we don't have Snowden would be pi$$ed off if Jones and co were bringing in recruits that had offers at Niagara.
Niagara isn't Kentucky, but if a game were to be played tomorrow, who would you put your money on, ODU or Niagara?
Hopefully Flagship is right and we already have 3 commitments for 2014 that can play center and PF that just haven't been announced yet... I'll retract when that announcement is made.
As of now, if we have another 5-25 type season, the damage may well be irreparable... and right now 5-25 looks about right. I understand the "build for the future" theory, but we need bodies this year. We have 2 open scholarships and 5 of the filled scholarships include 2 true freshmen that aren't likely to contribute much, 2 ineligible transfers, and an injury prone medical redshirt. I hope Jones does have these commitments in the bag because it isn't going to get any easier for him to recruit with somewhere around 10 wins over a 2 year stretch and Towson-like attendance figures.
11-01-2013, 08:32 AM
you brough up towson. look how quickly they went from the dregs of CBB to where they are now (not dominant, but they'll be favored in the CAA as weak as that league is).
11-01-2013, 08:38 AM
(11-01-2013 07:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 08:58 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:22 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling that those scholarships that are carried forward will be filled with quality recruits.(10-31-2013 09:22 AM)Lion Pride Wrote: [ -> ]It's time to move on and just because others have differing opinions, it doesn't make them stupid.
Agreed, one can have a bad opinion without being stupid. My response was in poor taste and apologize.
I am just frustrated we are filling our roster with walk-ons and ineligible transfers, sitting on 2 schollies (3 if you count Anton), we let this good one slip away, and people are saying, and I paraphrase, "oh well we didn't need the kid anyway."
It's like needing a car, but not sure which one to get. So you buy a used car to drive for a year until you have done your research and know exactly what you want, and then commit to the hefty 60 month payment plan on a new car.
Who gets a 5 year car note? No offense but Snowden is starting at Niagara not Kentucky. The same people who are mad because we don't have Snowden would be pi$$ed off if Jones and co were bringing in recruits that had offers at Niagara.
Niagara isn't Kentucky, but if a game were to be played tomorrow, who would you put your money on, ODU or Niagara?
Hopefully Flagship is right and we already have 3 commitments for 2014 that can play center and PF that just haven't been announced yet... I'll retract when that announcement is made.
As of now, if we have another 5-25 type season, the damage may well be irreparable... and right now 5-25 looks about right. I understand the "build for the future" theory, but we need bodies this year. We have 2 open scholarships and 5 of the filled scholarships include 2 true freshmen that aren't likely to contribute much, 2 ineligible transfers, and an injury prone medical redshirt. I hope Jones does have these commitments in the bag because it isn't going to get any easier for him to recruit with somewhere around 10 wins over a 2 year stretch and Towson-like attendance figures.
Quick fixes could lead to longer term issues. If we take lesser players just to fill the roster, it may take much longer to rebuild.
11-01-2013, 11:38 AM
(11-01-2013 07:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 08:58 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2013 10:22 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling that those scholarships that are carried forward will be filled with quality recruits.(10-31-2013 09:22 AM)Lion Pride Wrote: [ -> ]It's time to move on and just because others have differing opinions, it doesn't make them stupid.
Agreed, one can have a bad opinion without being stupid. My response was in poor taste and apologize.
I am just frustrated we are filling our roster with walk-ons and ineligible transfers, sitting on 2 schollies (3 if you count Anton), we let this good one slip away, and people are saying, and I paraphrase, "oh well we didn't need the kid anyway."
It's like needing a car, but not sure which one to get. So you buy a used car to drive for a year until you have done your research and know exactly what you want, and then commit to the hefty 60 month payment plan on a new car.
Who gets a 5 year car note? No offense but Snowden is starting at Niagara not Kentucky. The same people who are mad because we don't have Snowden would be pi$$ed off if Jones and co were bringing in recruits that had offers at Niagara.
Niagara isn't Kentucky, but if a game were to be played tomorrow, who would you put your money on, ODU or Niagara?
Hopefully Flagship is right and we already have 3 commitments for 2014 that can play center and PF that just haven't been announced yet... I'll retract when that announcement is made.
As of now, if we have another 5-25 type season, the damage may well be irreparable... and right now 5-25 looks about right. I understand the "build for the future" theory, but we need bodies this year. We have 2 open scholarships and 5 of the filled scholarships include 2 true freshmen that aren't likely to contribute much, 2 ineligible transfers, and an injury prone medical redshirt. I hope Jones does have these commitments in the bag because it isn't going to get any easier for him to recruit with somewhere around 10 wins over a 2 year stretch and Towson-like attendance figures.
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11-01-2013, 12:22 PM
(10-31-2013 08:58 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: [ -> ]Who gets a 5 year car note?What's wrong with a 5 year car note?
11-01-2013, 12:28 PM
11-01-2013, 12:50 PM
(11-01-2013 08:32 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote: [ -> ]you brough up towson. look how quickly they went from the dregs of CBB to where they are now (not dominant, but they'll be favored in the CAA as weak as that league is).
I wish JJ could have pulled off the early recruiting that Skerry did. Bad comparison because he didn't. Apparently when it comes to JJ you have to for relationships over years to get players. Skerry just goes out and gets them.
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11-01-2013, 01:02 PM
(11-01-2013 12:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 08:32 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote: [ -> ]you brough up towson. look how quickly they went from the dregs of CBB to where they are now (not dominant, but they'll be favored in the CAA as weak as that league is).
I wish JJ could have pulled off the early recruiting that Skerry did. Bad comparison because he didn't. Apparently when it comes to JJ you have to for relationships over years to get players. Skerry just goes out and gets them.
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there are obviously a lot of factors involved, but I was more saying that just b/c we stunk last year and likely will struggle this year that the damage is irreversable. we could win 10 this year and like 15-18 next year and be fine going forward beyond that. I believe thats a realistic outlook
11-01-2013, 02:19 PM
Blue: By Skerry, you mean the guy who went 1-31 his first season at Towson while taking in 3 transfers, 2 JUCOs, a guy who was recruiting for Pitt before going to Towson so was already in the pipeline to players higher caliber than the ones AU was recruiting. Apples to oranges. This thing is going to take a bit of time to get back on track, and I have no problem with Jones and Co building relationships with players for '14 and '15 rather than taking any warm body today. . . And as far as Snowden, I've now heard from 4 people whose opinion I value that the guy is a good athlete, but cannot play at the new level of basketball ODU is entering. That would make him a Blaine Taylor type player, someone BT thought he could mold into something. I've never understood why, if the guy was so good, he thought his best option was to walk-on at ODU. It makes absolutely no sense. Anyway, enough with Snowden. Sorry, just tired of people making him out to be such a big deal.
11-01-2013, 03:28 PM
OT, but does not deserve a thread IMO. I just saw a story on yahoo that has G. Mason being the first school to send an official recruiting letter to 10 year old, fifth grader Jaden Jones. The kid is 5'5", but come on man! 
11-01-2013, 03:29 PM
(11-01-2013 03:28 PM)paintedblue Wrote: [ -> ]OT, but does not feserve a thread IMO. I just saw a story on yahoo tha G. Mason is the first school to send an official recruiting letter to 10 year old fifth grade Jaden Jones.
What the heck?
11-01-2013, 03:47 PM
(11-01-2013 02:19 PM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]Blue: By Skerry, you mean the guy who went 1-31 his first season at Towson while taking in 3 transfers, 2 JUCOs, a guy who was recruiting for Pitt before going to Towson so was already in the pipeline to players higher caliber than the ones AU was recruiting. Apples to oranges. This thing is going to take a bit of time to get back on track, and I have no problem with Jones and Co building relationships with players for '14 and '15 rather than taking any warm body today. . . And as far as Snowden, I've now heard from 4 people whose opinion I value that the guy is a good athlete, but cannot play at the new level of basketball ODU is entering. That would make him a Blaine Taylor type player, someone BT thought he could mold into something. I've never understood why, if the guy was so good, he thought his best option was to walk-on at ODU. It makes absolutely no sense. Anyway, enough with Snowden. Sorry, just tired of people making him out to be such a big deal.
The fact that Skerry had relationships and Jones doesn't just shines a light on one of the many reasons that Jones was a bad hire. It certainly isn't a good excuse as to why we are going to be digging out of this for longer than a terrible Towson program took.
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11-01-2013, 04:01 PM
(11-01-2013 03:47 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 02:19 PM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]Blue: By Skerry, you mean the guy who went 1-31 his first season at Towson while taking in 3 transfers, 2 JUCOs, a guy who was recruiting for Pitt before going to Towson so was already in the pipeline to players higher caliber than the ones AU was recruiting. Apples to oranges. This thing is going to take a bit of time to get back on track, and I have no problem with Jones and Co building relationships with players for '14 and '15 rather than taking any warm body today. . . And as far as Snowden, I've now heard from 4 people whose opinion I value that the guy is a good athlete, but cannot play at the new level of basketball ODU is entering. That would make him a Blaine Taylor type player, someone BT thought he could mold into something. I've never understood why, if the guy was so good, he thought his best option was to walk-on at ODU. It makes absolutely no sense. Anyway, enough with Snowden. Sorry, just tired of people making him out to be such a big deal.
The fact that Skerry had relationships and Jones doesn't just shines a light on one of the many reasons that Jones was a bad hire. It certainly isn't a good excuse as to why we are going to be digging out of this for longer than a terrible Towson program took.
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Because American and Pitt have been recruiting on the same level for years?
11-01-2013, 04:03 PM
The point was that to recruit the level of player he says and looks to be hoping to bring in, relationships have to be forged with a variety of people. Those have been in the process of happening since he and staff came in. Why is it such a sin to wait and see who he gets for next year and, more importantly, the year beyond before we declare this whole thing a failure? I really don't get it.
11-01-2013, 04:54 PM
(11-01-2013 04:01 PM)paintedblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 03:47 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 02:19 PM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]Blue: By Skerry, you mean the guy who went 1-31 his first season at Towson while taking in 3 transfers, 2 JUCOs, a guy who was recruiting for Pitt before going to Towson so was already in the pipeline to players higher caliber than the ones AU was recruiting. Apples to oranges. This thing is going to take a bit of time to get back on track, and I have no problem with Jones and Co building relationships with players for '14 and '15 rather than taking any warm body today. . . And as far as Snowden, I've now heard from 4 people whose opinion I value that the guy is a good athlete, but cannot play at the new level of basketball ODU is entering. That would make him a Blaine Taylor type player, someone BT thought he could mold into something. I've never understood why, if the guy was so good, he thought his best option was to walk-on at ODU. It makes absolutely no sense. Anyway, enough with Snowden. Sorry, just tired of people making him out to be such a big deal.
The fact that Skerry had relationships and Jones doesn't just shines a light on one of the many reasons that Jones was a bad hire. It certainly isn't a good excuse as to why we are going to be digging out of this for longer than a terrible Towson program took.
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Because American and Pitt have been recruiting on the same level for years?
Is that an excuse, or am I somehow supposed to ignore the benefit of hiring a coach who wasn't at American for the last decade?
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11-01-2013, 04:54 PM
(11-01-2013 04:03 PM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]The point was that to recruit the level of player he says and looks to be hoping to bring in, relationships have to be forged with a variety of people. Those have been in the process of happening since he and staff came in. Why is it such a sin to wait and see who he gets for next year and, more importantly, the year beyond before we declare this whole thing a failure? I really don't get it.
Because he hasn't gotten anybody for his 1st 2 classes.
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11-01-2013, 05:02 PM
(11-01-2013 04:54 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 04:01 PM)paintedblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 03:47 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ](11-01-2013 02:19 PM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]Blue: By Skerry, you mean the guy who went 1-31 his first season at Towson while taking in 3 transfers, 2 JUCOs, a guy who was recruiting for Pitt before going to Towson so was already in the pipeline to players higher caliber than the ones AU was recruiting. Apples to oranges. This thing is going to take a bit of time to get back on track, and I have no problem with Jones and Co building relationships with players for '14 and '15 rather than taking any warm body today. . . And as far as Snowden, I've now heard from 4 people whose opinion I value that the guy is a good athlete, but cannot play at the new level of basketball ODU is entering. That would make him a Blaine Taylor type player, someone BT thought he could mold into something. I've never understood why, if the guy was so good, he thought his best option was to walk-on at ODU. It makes absolutely no sense. Anyway, enough with Snowden. Sorry, just tired of people making him out to be such a big deal.
The fact that Skerry had relationships and Jones doesn't just shines a light on one of the many reasons that Jones was a bad hire. It certainly isn't a good excuse as to why we are going to be digging out of this for longer than a terrible Towson program took.
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Because American and Pitt have been recruiting on the same level for years?
Is that an excuse, or am I somehow supposed to ignore the benefit of hiring a coach who wasn't at American for the last decade?
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It's an excuse and an ironic one at that since these are the same people that also excuse not hiring someone like Keatts that would have had the relationship like Skerry.
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