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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbelzer/...decisions/

“When we expanded with Nebraska, we did the right thing about being transparent but still ended up upsetting a lot of people and made other conferences react by using expansion to protect their own interests. When we made the decision to bring in Rutgers and Maryland, we were far more strategic and avoided transparency so as to prevent a similar reaction. By the time the news broke, there was little other conferences could do other than increase their exit fees in an effort to prevent anyone else from leaving,” explains Delany.

Um, so why did he wait until after the ACC increased their exit fee? Or... Does he firmly believe that the exit fee won't stand? Hmm...
translation

we are rich as **** and no exit fee can stop us
Interesting read.
That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.

There is definitely some revisionist history going on. I don't think the PAC, SEC, or B1G regret any decisions made, though. The ACC additions were solid. I hope that Slive and Delany will write a tell-all when both are retired.
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.

Actually he's a professor of organizational theory and sports law at Rutgers, but I get your point and somewhat agree.
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.



Agreed. Delany wanted to get Texas and/or ND and ended up with Nebraska.

Question: Is New Jersey to Minnesota really "a conference that stretches across half of America"?

I haven't done the calculation, I am merely asking.

This is merely a regurgitation of 2010's "Delany is a genius" and "Delany is the smartest man in football" pablum from Dennis Dodd and others.
(10-29-2013 11:39 AM)brista21 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.

Actually he's a professor of organizational theory and sports law at Rutgers, but I get your point and somewhat agree.

I don't see it so much as a thank you, i see it more as an interview with a man who had to make some brazen moves explain how it has to be done when leading a group who isn't as receptive to change.

There wasn't a ton of "Oh you're the greatest ever!", i mean it's an interview. Those are normally pretty biased towards the side of the person doing all the talking, which was Delany.
(10-29-2013 11:54 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.



Agreed. Delany wanted to get Texas and/or ND and ended up with Nebraska.

Question: Is New Jersey to Minnesota really "a conference that stretches across half of America"?

I haven't done the calculation, I am merely asking.

This is merely a regurgitation of 2010's "Delany is a genius" and "Delany is the smartest man in football" pablum from Dennis Dodd and others.

Yes, it's half way across the country, Nebraska is the farthest west.

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(10-29-2013 10:57 AM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]translation

we are rich as **** and no exit fee can stop us

other translation......

they were all that were available.
(10-29-2013 12:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:54 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.



Agreed. Delany wanted to get Texas and/or ND and ended up with Nebraska.

Question: Is New Jersey to Minnesota really "a conference that stretches across half of America"?

I haven't done the calculation, I am merely asking.

This is merely a regurgitation of 2010's "Delany is a genius" and "Delany is the smartest man in football" pablum from Dennis Dodd and others.

Yes, it's half way across the country, Nebraska is the farthest west.

[Image: states_imgmap.gif]



Well, Lincoln is in eastern Nebraska near the Iowa border but I will spot you that one.
(10-29-2013 12:11 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 12:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:54 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.



Agreed. Delany wanted to get Texas and/or ND and ended up with Nebraska.

Question: Is New Jersey to Minnesota really "a conference that stretches across half of America"?

I haven't done the calculation, I am merely asking.

This is merely a regurgitation of 2010's "Delany is a genius" and "Delany is the smartest man in football" pablum from Dennis Dodd and others.

Yes, it's half way across the country, Nebraska is the farthest west.

[Image: states_imgmap.gif]



Well, Lincoln is in eastern Nebraska near the Iowa border but I will spot you that one.

But the fan base stretches across the state. 04-cheers
(10-29-2013 12:12 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 12:11 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 12:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:54 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.



Agreed. Delany wanted to get Texas and/or ND and ended up with Nebraska.

Question: Is New Jersey to Minnesota really "a conference that stretches across half of America"?

I haven't done the calculation, I am merely asking.

This is merely a regurgitation of 2010's "Delany is a genius" and "Delany is the smartest man in football" pablum from Dennis Dodd and others.

Yes, it's half way across the country, Nebraska is the farthest west.

[Image: states_imgmap.gif]



Well, Lincoln is in eastern Nebraska near the Iowa border but I will spot you that one.

But the fan base stretches across the state. 04-cheers


Which is why I spotted you that one.


Can the ACC now also claim that it is a national conference since it stretches from Boston to Miami and ND has a fan base that stretches across America from coast to coast and is a member in 24 sports (and plays five ACC teams per year in football)? 04-cheers
The way the big 10 went about expansion was pretty bizarre. Texas or UNC don't work as stand alone picks, big 10 would need to get big and build bridges to either and that isn't what they wanted. It seems they just wanted to swoop in and take texas and UNC without any blowback, not to mention why would texas and UNC want to go to the big 10 solo. Now if the big 10 would get really big like 20-40 teams, than i like building separate 6-10 team divisions for different regions of the country under the big 10 banner. Right now it seems delany has backed the big 10 into a corner without any more expansion moves unless you challenge the GOR. Or you do a 180 on missouri which assumes they would jump. My guess is the big 10 might eventually warm to Florida state if it strikes out on texas again...big market, big football, lots of midwest snowbirds in FL. I like the pair of FSU and NY state/buffalo and just stay at 16 with that combo. I also like KU and OU.
(10-29-2013 12:16 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 12:12 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 12:11 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 12:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2013 11:54 AM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. Delany wanted to get Texas and/or ND and ended up with Nebraska.

Question: Is New Jersey to Minnesota really "a conference that stretches across half of America"?

I haven't done the calculation, I am merely asking.

This is merely a regurgitation of 2010's "Delany is a genius" and "Delany is the smartest man in football" pablum from Dennis Dodd and others.

Yes, it's half way across the country, Nebraska is the farthest west.

[Image: states_imgmap.gif]



Well, Lincoln is in eastern Nebraska near the Iowa border but I will spot you that one.

But the fan base stretches across the state. 04-cheers


Which is why I spotted you that one.


Can the ACC now also claim that it is a national conference since it stretches from Boston to Miami and ND has a fan base that stretches across America from coast to coast and is a member in 24 sports (and plays five ACC teams per year in football)? 04-cheers

The Big could be the first 18-team conference by adding UConn, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. 07-coffee3
(10-29-2013 11:23 AM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]That article is a BJ given to Delany by the article's author as a thank-you for inviting his alma mater, Rutgers, to the Big Ten.

This exactly.
If this was a Jim Delany BJ for inviting Rutgers to the B1G, then what about the articles about the SEC and Notre Dame this writer did?
That's some poor journalism, especially the blurb that other[/i] conferences were generally unreactive to the Big 10 adding Penn State "because other conferences remained largely unreactive to the Big Ten’s acquisition, Delany and his staff were able to sit back and carefully plan their next move". The ACC added FSU, the SEC SC and Arkansas, and the ACC added Miami, VT, and BC, and began talking to ND before the B10 expanded again.
(10-29-2013 01:38 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ]That's some poor journalism, especially the blurb that other[/i] conferences were generally unreactive to the Big 10 adding Penn State. The ACC added FSU, the SEC SC and Arkansas, and the ACC added Miami, VT, and BC, and began talking to ND before the B10 expanded again.

Most of those were not in reaction to PSU going to the B1G. The last ACC expansion you mentioned definitely not because of PSU to the B1G, since it was 13 years later. The SEC was creating a conference championship game and Arkansas was begging to be let in as their SWC was being crippled with NCAA sanctions. FSU was about bringing in a big name team. There wasn't this wave of realignment because of that move like the Nebraska add set off.
(10-29-2013 01:38 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ]That's some poor journalism, especially the blurb that other[/i] conferences were generally unreactive to the Big 10 adding Penn State "because other conferences remained largely unreactive to the Big Ten’s acquisition, Delany and his staff were able to sit back and carefully plan their next move". The ACC added FSU, the SEC SC and Arkansas, and the ACC added Miami, VT, and BC, and began talking to ND before the B10 expanded again.

The Big East fast-tracked football sponsorship, too.

But, I don't think it's an incorrect statement. What was going on in the SWC and Big 8 was more curious, simply because all of these schools were potentially in play.
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