...what do you think would be the CFP and Event Bowl Line-Up projections as of this week
Playoff Games
Rose -
Sugar -
Event Bowl Games
Orange -
Peach -
Fiesta -
Cotton -
Cheers,
Neil
right now:
Rose- 2 Oregon vs 3 Florida St
Sugar- 1 Alabama vs 4 Ohio St
Orange- Clemson vs Missouri
other 3 games:
Peach- Auburn vs Oklahoma
Cotton- Texas A&M vs Baylor
Fiesta- Stanford vs Fresno
(10-28-2013 10:23 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]right now:
Rose- 2 Oregon vs 3 Florida St
Sugar- 1 Alabama vs 4 Ohio St
Orange- Clemson vs Missouri
other 3 games:
Peach- Auburn vs Oklahoma
Cotton- Texas A&M vs Baylor
Fiesta- Stanford vs Fresno
I think these are spot on except I can see the Peach taking Miami over Oklahoma
As of this week...
Rose - 2 Oregon vs. 3 Florida State
Sugar - 1 Alabama vs. 4 Ohio State
Orange - 7 Miami vs. 9 Missouri
Peach - 8 Clemson vs. 11 Auburn
Cotton - 6 Baylor vs. 12 Texas A&M
Fiesta - 5 Stanford vs. 16 Fresno State
(10-28-2013 10:28 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ]As of this week...
Rose - 2 Oregon vs. 3 Florida State
Sugar - 1 Alabama vs. 4 Ohio State
Orange - 7 Miami vs. 9 Missouri
Peach - 8 Clemson vs. 11 Auburn
Cotton - 6 Baylor vs. 12 Texas A&M
Fiesta - 5 Stanford vs. 10 Oklahoma
Doesn't the best of G5 get a spot automatically?
Cheers,
Neil
(10-28-2013 10:30 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:28 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ]As of this week...
Rose - 2 Oregon vs. 3 Florida State
Sugar - 1 Alabama vs. 4 Ohio State
Orange - 7 Miami vs. 9 Missouri
Peach - 8 Clemson vs. 11 Auburn
Cotton - 6 Baylor vs. 12 Texas A&M
Fiesta - 5 Stanford vs. 10 Oklahoma
Doesn't the best of G5 get a spot automatically?
Cheers,
Neil
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
(10-28-2013 10:25 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:23 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]right now:
Rose- 2 Oregon vs 3 Florida St
Sugar- 1 Alabama vs 4 Ohio St
Orange- Clemson vs Missouri
other 3 games:
Peach- Auburn vs Oklahoma
Cotton- Texas A&M vs Baylor
Fiesta- Stanford vs Fresno
I think these are spot on except I can see the Peach taking Miami over Oklahoma
As of right now, I see the Orange having to take Miami which would push Clemson to the Peach.
Will likely change by the time the season is over though. But this week, the Orange would be boxed in with Miami vs Mizzou.
Cheers,
Neil
Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
(10-28-2013 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
If Miami finishes with 3 losses they would be out entirely, unless of course Clemson loses two more. But as of this week, I believe the Orange would have to take Miami over Clemson since the Hurricanes haven't loss yet, that makes them the second best team in the conference.
Cheers,
Neil
(10-28-2013 10:36 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
If Miami finishes with 3 losses they would be out entirely, unless of course Clemson loses two more. But as of this week, I believe the Orange would have to take Miami over Clemson since the Hurricanes haven't loss yet, that makes them the second best team in the conference.
Cheers,
Neil
The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
(10-28-2013 10:39 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:36 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
If Miami finishes with 3 losses they would be out entirely, unless of course Clemson loses two more. But as of this week, I believe the Orange would have to take Miami over Clemson since the Hurricanes haven't loss yet, that makes them the second best team in the conference.
Cheers,
Neil
The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
(10-28-2013 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
I believe the OB is required to take the next highest ACC team so if Clemson is ranked higher they get the invite.
(10-28-2013 10:45 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:39 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:36 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
If Miami finishes with 3 losses they would be out entirely, unless of course Clemson loses two more. But as of this week, I believe the Orange would have to take Miami over Clemson since the Hurricanes haven't loss yet, that makes them the second best team in the conference.
Cheers,
Neil
The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
I was just saying for discussions sake. Could easily see Miami higher than 12 at 11-2. It'll be interesting to see if the replacement for FSU has to be the highest ranked team, as it could easily impact whether ACC gets 3 teams in(or other conferences in other seasons).
(10-28-2013 10:48 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:45 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:39 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:36 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of an interesting thought....
For the games like Orange in this scenario- are they allowed to take a school like a Miami over a Clemson- even though Clemson is ranked higher than Miami(in this scenario, Miami would have at least 2 losses to FSU, if not a 3rd) and ranked outside the top 15 even. Could be a loophole that has to get closed up.
If Clemson goes to the Orange, than Oklahoma likely will be ranked higher than Miami. Given that it's merit based, Oklahoma would go over Miami.
If Miami finishes with 3 losses they would be out entirely, unless of course Clemson loses two more. But as of this week, I believe the Orange would have to take Miami over Clemson since the Hurricanes haven't loss yet, that makes them the second best team in the conference.
Cheers,
Neil
The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
I was just saying for discussions sake. Could easily see Miami higher than 12 at 11-2. It'll be interesting to see if the replacement for FSU has to be the highest ranked team, as it could easily impact whether ACC gets 3 teams in(or other conferences in other seasons).
From this article
here
In years when the ACC champion or another ACC team qualifies for the four-team national semifinals, then the next highest-ranked ACC team would play in the Orange Bowl.
Looks like it's no choice.
Only choice they appear to have is this:
The ACC representative will play the highest available ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or the Big Ten. However, if the ACC's highest-ranked opponent would create a regular-season rematch, the Orange Bowl has the flexibility to avoid that rematch by taking the next highest-ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or Big Ten.
So, if Clemson were the ACC representative and the highest ranked available from the SEC, BiG, and ND were South Carolina, it looks like the Orange could skip over USCe and take the next eligible team.
Cheers,
Neil
(10-28-2013 10:57 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:48 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:45 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:39 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:36 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ]If Miami finishes with 3 losses they would be out entirely, unless of course Clemson loses two more. But as of this week, I believe the Orange would have to take Miami over Clemson since the Hurricanes haven't loss yet, that makes them the second best team in the conference.
Cheers,
Neil
The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
I was just saying for discussions sake. Could easily see Miami higher than 12 at 11-2. It'll be interesting to see if the replacement for FSU has to be the highest ranked team, as it could easily impact whether ACC gets 3 teams in(or other conferences in other seasons).
From this article here
In years when the ACC champion or another ACC team qualifies for the four-team national semifinals, then the next highest-ranked ACC team would play in the Orange Bowl.
Looks like it's no choice.
Only choice they appear to have is this:
The ACC representative will play the highest available ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or the Big Ten. However, if the ACC's highest-ranked opponent would create a regular-season rematch, the Orange Bowl has the flexibility to avoid that rematch by taking the next highest-ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or Big Ten.
So, if Clemson were the ACC representative and the highest ranked available from the SEC, BiG, and ND were South Carolina, it looks like the Orange could skip over USCe and take the next eligible team.
Cheers,
Neil
cool- that's how it should be..
of course I like this-
lets say Miami beats FSU in ACC title game, but FSU is ranked higher than they are..
Clemson makes final 4.
according to how the rule is written, FSU would go to the Orange bowl over Miami.
(10-28-2013 11:01 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:57 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:48 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:45 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:39 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
I was just saying for discussions sake. Could easily see Miami higher than 12 at 11-2. It'll be interesting to see if the replacement for FSU has to be the highest ranked team, as it could easily impact whether ACC gets 3 teams in(or other conferences in other seasons).
From this article here
In years when the ACC champion or another ACC team qualifies for the four-team national semifinals, then the next highest-ranked ACC team would play in the Orange Bowl.
Looks like it's no choice.
Only choice they appear to have is this:
The ACC representative will play the highest available ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or the Big Ten. However, if the ACC's highest-ranked opponent would create a regular-season rematch, the Orange Bowl has the flexibility to avoid that rematch by taking the next highest-ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or Big Ten.
So, if Clemson were the ACC representative and the highest ranked available from the SEC, BiG, and ND were South Carolina, it looks like the Orange could skip over USCe and take the next eligible team.
Cheers,
Neil
cool- that's how it should be..
of course I like this-
lets say Miami beats FSU in ACC title game, but FSU is ranked higher than they are..
Clemson makes final 4.
according to how the rule is written, FSU would go to the Orange bowl over Miami.
I think not because the ACC Champion is automatic to the Orange Bowl unless they go to the playoff. Miami would be the champ, not Clemson so the OB would have to take Miami (at least that is how I interpret it.)
(10-28-2013 11:01 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:57 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:48 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:45 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:39 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]The question I have is this- Say Clemson finishes 11-1 # 6 and Miami is 11-2- ranked for arguement sakes #14. Would the Orange be forced to take Clemson? Or could the ACC pull strings and have them take Miami, thus getting 3 teams in? I could see this "loophole" being one that gets closed up fairly quickly quite frankly.
I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
I was just saying for discussions sake. Could easily see Miami higher than 12 at 11-2. It'll be interesting to see if the replacement for FSU has to be the highest ranked team, as it could easily impact whether ACC gets 3 teams in(or other conferences in other seasons).
From this article here
In years when the ACC champion or another ACC team qualifies for the four-team national semifinals, then the next highest-ranked ACC team would play in the Orange Bowl.
Looks like it's no choice.
Only choice they appear to have is this:
The ACC representative will play the highest available ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or the Big Ten. However, if the ACC's highest-ranked opponent would create a regular-season rematch, the Orange Bowl has the flexibility to avoid that rematch by taking the next highest-ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or Big Ten.
So, if Clemson were the ACC representative and the highest ranked available from the SEC, BiG, and ND were South Carolina, it looks like the Orange could skip over USCe and take the next eligible team.
Cheers,
Neil
cool- that's how it should be..
of course I like this-
lets say Miami beats FSU in ACC title game, but FSU is ranked higher than they are..
Clemson makes final 4.
according to how the rule is written, FSU would go to the Orange bowl over Miami.
I see where you're getting that from the strict wording of the article, but I don't believe the article is reflecting the rule quite correctly (or at least it's not addressing that aspect). The ACC champ (if it's not in the playoff) would still trump all for the Orange Bowl slot, even if it was somehow ranked lower than another ACC team. It would be the same for the non-playoff Rose Bowl or Sugar Bowl. All of the contract bowls are tied into the respective conference champs, but they are only replaced if such champs are in the playoff.
(10-28-2013 11:12 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 11:01 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:57 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:48 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-28-2013 10:45 AM)omniorange Wrote: [ -> ]I believe if the ACC champion is part of the playoffs (in this scenario, that would be true with FSU), then the second best team in the conference goes to the Orange. Don't see how the Orange could justify the lower ranked Miami team over Clemson in that particular scenario.
But I highly doubt an 11-2 Miami would be rated as low as #14 considering those two losses would be to FSU, at worse the #3 team in the country in this scenario. So, Miami would still likely make an Event Bowl in that case. Now a 10-3 Miami team could be rated as low as #14 which is where I thought your original scenario was going.
Cheers,
Neil
I was just saying for discussions sake. Could easily see Miami higher than 12 at 11-2. It'll be interesting to see if the replacement for FSU has to be the highest ranked team, as it could easily impact whether ACC gets 3 teams in(or other conferences in other seasons).
From this article here
In years when the ACC champion or another ACC team qualifies for the four-team national semifinals, then the next highest-ranked ACC team would play in the Orange Bowl.
Looks like it's no choice.
Only choice they appear to have is this:
The ACC representative will play the highest available ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or the Big Ten. However, if the ACC's highest-ranked opponent would create a regular-season rematch, the Orange Bowl has the flexibility to avoid that rematch by taking the next highest-ranked team from Notre Dame, the SEC or Big Ten.
So, if Clemson were the ACC representative and the highest ranked available from the SEC, BiG, and ND were South Carolina, it looks like the Orange could skip over USCe and take the next eligible team.
Cheers,
Neil
cool- that's how it should be..
of course I like this-
lets say Miami beats FSU in ACC title game, but FSU is ranked higher than they are..
Clemson makes final 4.
according to how the rule is written, FSU would go to the Orange bowl over Miami.
I see where you're getting that from the strict wording of the article, but I don't believe the article is reflecting the rule quite correctly (or at least it's not addressing that aspect). The ACC champ (if it's not in the playoff) would still trump all for the Orange Bowl slot, even if it was somehow ranked lower than another ACC team. It would be the same for the non-playoff Rose Bowl or Sugar Bowl. All of the contract bowls are tied into the respective conference champs, but they are only replaced if such champs are in the playoff.
lol- they need to adjust the wording of it...