http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...holarships
Quote:Due to Penn State University’s continued progress toward ensuring athletics integrity, the NCAA Executive Committee is gradually restoring football scholarships the university lost because of sanctions more than a year ago.
Quote:Beginning next academic year (2014-15), five additional initial scholarships will be restored to the university’s football team. This amount will continue to increase.
PSU will have 20 initial and 75 overall scholarships for 2014-2015, 25 initial and 80 overall scholarships in 2015-2016, and then the full complement of 25 initial and 85 overall starting in 2016-2017. I guess they were successful in starting the clock on the initial limits of 65 this season, as O'Brien noted prior to the UCF game that he only had 62 on scholarship. Not sure how they go from 65 to 75 with there only being an increase of 5, though.
They could also consider potential mitigation of the postseason ban in the future as well.
(09-24-2013 10:29 AM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/publ...holarships
Quote:Due to Penn State University’s continued progress toward ensuring athletics integrity, the NCAA Executive Committee is gradually restoring football scholarships the university lost because of sanctions more than a year ago.
Quote:Beginning next academic year (2014-15), five additional initial scholarships will be restored to the university’s football team. This amount will continue to increase.
PSU will have 20 initial and 75 overall scholarships for 2014-2015, 25 initial and 80 overall scholarships in 2015-2016, and then the full complement of 25 initial and 85 overall starting in 2016-2017. I guess they were successful in starting the clock on the initial limits of 65 this season, as O'Brien noted prior to the UCF game that he only had 62 on scholarship. Not sure how they go from 65 to 75 with there only being an increase of 5, though.
They could also consider potential mitigation of the postseason ban in the future as well.
maybe walkons would be allowed to be given scholarships.
(09-24-2013 10:37 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]maybe walkons would be allowed to be given scholarships.
They already did that for a few kids this year.
None of this is O'Brien's fault. That's an important thing to note here. He and his players are innocent in this matter - but unfortunately they're taking all of the punishment.
However, I would like to see PSU under severe punishment until the ENTIRE administration that allowed this to happen is removed. Once that happens, the university (and the football program) should be back on level footing again. The suits are wholly responsible for the PSU tragedy (which it is) - not the kids putting their bodies on the line each Saturday. I honestly wish that state/federal government authorities would have stepped in and forcefully handled this matter the moment it happened.
I've read a few PSU forums, and it seems as if parts of the administration haven't learned a thing, and that's disheartening...
I expect OSU and UCF to be getting some scholarships back for good behavior, too. It's not like their violations weren't total BS either, espcially in light of more recent cases.
The administrators who are being tried for perjury (and are implied to be complicit in the alleged cover-up) are all gone. Gone.
The only "higher ups" that PSU hasn't removed are the Board of Trustees. They are such a large group though that's it's impossible to remove all of them. Although, if you ask PSU fans, we think they are just as guilty in all of this as anyone else who has been implicated in this. They threw the administrators and football team under the bus (and then paid Louis Freeh 8 million dollars to make it official)...when they should be held accountable as well.
Still glad that the NCAA has started to rectify punishment which they had no jurisdiction to make. This is a legal matter. Let the courts sort out everyone who deserves punishment and then throw the book at them. The NCAA is not a body that enforces United States laws. Sandusky got his...the three administrators are getting the legal process as well.
(09-24-2013 11:33 AM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]I expect OSU and UCF to be getting some scholarships back for good behavior, too. It's not like their violations weren't total BS either, espcially in light of more recent cases.
You must be shitting me in regards to Ohio State.
(09-24-2013 12:15 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2013 11:33 AM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]I expect OSU and UCF to be getting some scholarships back for good behavior, too. It's not like their violations weren't total BS either, espcially in light of more recent cases.
You must be shitting me in regards to Ohio State.
Yeah, I know Tressel lied and all, but then again, so did the PSU staff.
OSU staff lied about actual NCAA violations. Huge difference there.
(09-24-2013 12:31 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]OSU staff lied about actual NCAA violations. Huge difference there.
Who lied at OSU? The athletic director, a senior vice president, the president of the school? You mean such people as those people at PSU waiting for trial on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice?
The NCAA has abandoned any last shreds of moral authority and integrity with this.
(09-24-2013 10:40 AM)oliveandblue Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly wish that state/federal government authorities would have stepped in and forcefully handled this matter the moment it happened.
I wish this state's investigative arm wasn't akin to Hee Haw.
I wonder if the NCAA is goihg to reduce the penalties for that WCC school whose female athlete used a university hose and university water to wash her car? Now that I think about it I am surprised if they don't receive further sanctions.
It has become apparent to me that if an athletic department/coaches ares playing by the rules and acting ethically then they are negligent in their duties.
I always felt that the NCAA rushed to sanction PSU. And now they're restoring schollies way too early. What a clusterf*ck the NCAA has created. People don't know what can, or will, develop over the course of the perjury/obstruction of justice trials, or the DOE investigation.
What the NCAA should've done was let everything from the criminal trials and DOE investigation to conclude. Piece together a stronger case against PSU and then sanction PSU in a joint presser alongside the DOE.
Now the NCAA is losing even more credibility. And it's their own fault for rushing to sanctions because the court of public opinion wanted sanctions.
Good decision by the NCAA. So a few throw away kids got raped and the school's leadership actively or inactively covered up said rapes to protect their pristine image and keep the money train rolling? Big deal! This is big time college football we're talking about here and everyone knows that if enough money is involved, there are no real consequences for even the most egregious behavior.
Who knows, maybe next time the next crop of 12 year-old boy groupies won't dress so slutty when they are around the coaches?
At least now the real victims, the Penn State football fans, can have some measure of peace.
the psu sanctions were wrong and ticked me off for a number of reasons
but this was by far the worst. you limit a school to FCS type depth then have them play a full p5 schedule??????
thats a wreck waiting to happen. the problem was evident even during PSU's opener with syracuse when they had guys going down far more often than they should.
and thats why emmert should go to hell. because hes the reason so many of those student athletes are getting injured.
they NCAA didnt do this because psu is doing so well, but because the injury issue is very obvious and is making them look bad. i see this as emmer trying to save face
(09-24-2013 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if the NCAA is goihg to reduce the penalties for that WCC school whose female athlete used a university hose and university water to wash her car? Now that I think about it I am surprised if they don't receive further sanctions.
It has become apparent to me that if an athletic department/coaches ares playing by the rules and acting ethically then they are negligent in their duties.
The (self-imposed) penalty in that case was that she had to pay the school $20. It was a secondary violation and didn't amount to squat as far as sanctions.
(09-24-2013 01:03 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: [ -> ]What the NCAA should've done was let everything from the criminal trials and DOE investigation to conclude. Piece together a stronger case against PSU and then sanction PSU in a joint presser alongside the DOE.
The NCAA owed it to everyone to do their own investigative report, rather than slacking off and hitching the wagon to Freeh, which was written with a broader scope than just a few athletic personalities.
The NCAA really had the opportunity to go after virtually every coach, assistant, and maybe student athlete who passed through those parts from 98-11, and could have gotten a much better glimpse of how much was known, or tossed around the water cooler. I've said it for so long: PSU was lucky this was not its entire athletic department that didn't get gutted. Had the NCAA done its proper due diligence, per the scope of its authority, there could have been something far more effective accomplished.
NCAA derps it again.
(09-24-2013 01:39 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: [ -> ] (09-24-2013 01:03 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: [ -> ]What the NCAA should've done was let everything from the criminal trials and DOE investigation to conclude. Piece together a stronger case against PSU and then sanction PSU in a joint presser alongside the DOE.
The NCAA owed it to everyone to do their own investigative report, rather than slacking off and hitching the wagon to Freeh, which was written with a broader scope than just a few athletic personalities.
The NCAA really had the opportunity to go after virtually every coach, assistant, and maybe student athlete who passed through those parts from 98-11, and could have gotten a much better glimpse of how much was known, or tossed around the water cooler. I've said it for so long: PSU was lucky this was not its entire athletic department that didn't get gutted. Had the NCAA done its proper due diligence, per the scope of its authority, there could have been something far more effective accomplished.
NCAA derps it again.
Absolutely... Using the Freeh Report was the NCAA's biggest mistake. But on the other hand, working w/ the Department of Education is a different story. I don't see why the NCAA and DOE couldn't have worked together to punish PSU. If the DOE would've suggested to the NCAA that PSU deserves a 4 year Death Penalty in all sports, I would've felt it was fair.