The weather is fantastic! Spent some time on the lake yesterday and went to Tigers game. The Tigers won in the bottom of 9th with a homer by Cabrera. There was also a Kenny Chesney concert downtown at Ford Field. Parking was a mess but I felt safe walking the streets. Also went out to Bloomfield Hills to watch a movie.
This city has the ability to comeback. Create a safe, walkable smaller downtown, then move all of the residents between downtown and the suburbs to another part of the city. Bulldoze the part in between and make farm land. Let the millennials
invaid the downtown, create gayborhoods and build high rise condos. Elect a white mayor to convince the folks in the suburbs to discover the city again. Prosper!
Central planning is what ruined Detroit in the first place, any fix has to come from somewhere other than the government.
As an aside, I was watching the premiere of "Low Winter Sun" about Detroit cops and the cop walks into the station with a cup of Tim Horton's coffee. Now that's getting the detail right.
(08-18-2013 12:26 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: [ -> ]The weather is fantastic! Spent some time on the lake yesterday and went to Tigers game. The Tigers won in the bottom of 9th with a homer by Cabrera. There was also a Kenny Chesney concert downtown at Ford Field. Parking was a mess but I felt safe walking the streets. Also went out to Bloomfield Hills to watch a movie.
This city has the ability to comeback. Create a safe, walkable smaller downtown, then move all of the residents between downtown and the suburbs to another part of the city. Bulldoze the part in between and make farm land. Let the millennials
invaid the downtown, create gayborhoods and build high rise condos. Elect a white mayor to convince the folks in the suburbs to discover the city again. Prosper!
I was in Detroit on Friday. It was a nice day, and people were downtown as there was a Tigers game going on. That being said. Detroit looked like it had some problems.
So long as an unelected, right wing dictator is running the city, the slide is going to continue. The groups most likely to lead a renaissance in Detroit aren't going to want to live under some teabaggers thumb, especially if they can't unelect him.
(08-18-2013 12:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2013 12:26 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: [ -> ]The weather is fantastic! Spent some time on the lake yesterday and went to Tigers game. The Tigers won in the bottom of 9th with a homer by Cabrera. There was also a Kenny Chesney concert downtown at Ford Field. Parking was a mess but I felt safe walking the streets. Also went out to Bloomfield Hills to watch a movie.
This city has the ability to comeback. Create a safe, walkable smaller downtown, then move all of the residents between downtown and the suburbs to another part of the city. Bulldoze the part in between and make farm land. Let the millennials
invaid the downtown, create gayborhoods and build high rise condos. Elect a white mayor to convince the folks in the suburbs to discover the city again. Prosper!
Detroit looked like it had some problems.
i wonder why that would be?
Did you happen to see American Gold and Jewelery (Hardcore Pawn)?
If only Kid Rock could do for Detroit what Dolly did for Pigeon Forge.
While you're there buy me a neighborhood. $30 should do it.
(08-18-2013 12:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2013 12:26 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: [ -> ]The weather is fantastic! Spent some time on the lake yesterday and went to Tigers game. The Tigers won in the bottom of 9th with a homer by Cabrera. There was also a Kenny Chesney concert downtown at Ford Field. Parking was a mess but I felt safe walking the streets. Also went out to Bloomfield Hills to watch a movie.
This city has the ability to comeback. Create a safe, walkable smaller downtown, then move all of the residents between downtown and the suburbs to another part of the city. Bulldoze the part in between and make farm land. Let the millennials
invaid the downtown, create gayborhoods and build high rise condos. Elect a white mayor to convince the folks in the suburbs to discover the city again. Prosper!
I was in Detroit on Friday. It was a nice day, and people were downtown as there was a Tigers game going on. That being said. Detroit looked like it had some problems.
So long as an unelected, right wing dictator is running the city, the slide is going to continue. The groups most likely to lead a renaissance in Detroit aren't going to want to live under some teabaggers thumb, especially if they can't unelect him.
Ha ha ha ha ha.....So the governor appointed manager has wrecked the city? In the few months that he has been in charge? It didn't happen over the last 50 years of electing crooks, pimps and other idiots. I am beginning to think RobertN has a challenger for the biggest moron on this board.
Socratic, there are Tim Horton locations in downtown Detroit.
Tom, Detroit has been under leftwing leadership for years. The city is a case study of what results from decades of a cycle of dependency and the anti-ambition that goes with it.
(08-18-2013 12:59 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote: [ -> ]Socratic, there are Tim Horton locations in downtown Detroit.
Tom, Detroit has been under leftwing leadership for years. The city is a case study of what results from decades of a cycle of dependency and the anti-ambition that goes with it.
Yeah Tom's assertion is comical.
(08-18-2013 12:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]So long as an unelected, right wing dictator is running the city, the slide is going to continue. The groups most likely to lead a renaissance in Detroit aren't going to want to live under some teabaggers thumb, especially if they can't unelect him.
So you found your drug dealer, I see.
(08-18-2013 12:59 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote: [ -> ]Socratic, there are Tim Horton locations in downtown Detroit.
Tom, Detroit has been under leftwing leadership for years. The city is a case study of what results from decades of a cycle of dependency and the anti-ambition that goes with it.
Look, you aren't moving to Detroit. Who is likely to move to Detroit? Liberals. But having some far right winger overthrow the elected government there isn't going to encourage the urban pioneers to return.
Besides the Michigan GOP wants to destroy Detroit for political reasons. Too bad for Michigan. Because, Detroit's Metro (including all you Detroit-hating right wingers out in Oakland County)'s fate is tied to Detroit City.
(08-18-2013 01:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2013 12:59 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote: [ -> ]Socratic, there are Tim Horton locations in downtown Detroit.
Tom, Detroit has been under leftwing leadership for years. The city is a case study of what results from decades of a cycle of dependency and the anti-ambition that goes with it.
Look, you aren't moving to Detroit. Who is likely to move to Detroit? Liberals. But having some far right winger overthrow the elected government there isn't going to encourage the urban pioneers to return.
Besides the Michigan GOP wants to destroy Detroit for political reasons. Too bad for Michigan. Because, Detroit's Metro (including all you Detroit-hating right wingers out in Oakland County)'s fate is tied to Detroit City.
Tom, what will motivate those thousands of hipsters to flood Detroit? Businesses, commerce and a vibrant economic district in/around the neighborhoods. You've got to have that first before all of your urban pioneers trek to the city. And let's just say, with just a few exceptions here and there, these past few decades of Detroit political decision-making haven't exactly jump-started this.
Detroit's been in a steep decline under a constant stream of liberal, mostly corrupt mayors since the 1960s, from Coleman through Kwame (Dennis Archer might've been the only competent one of the bunch). Too bad for Michigan, indeed.
And how, exactly, is advocating a different governance for Detroit - after five decades of same ol' same ol' that helped take it down the tubes - considering "hating Detroit?" If I wanted to see the city fail, I'd be rooting for more Kwames, more bureaucracy, more dependency programs, more federal war on drugs, and fewer business-friendly initiatives.
(08-18-2013 01:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Look, you aren't moving to Detroit. Who is likely to move to Detroit? Liberals.
And ironically, who
doesn't buy Detroit-made vehicles? Liberals.
The Big 3 perform most poorly in the darkest "blue" areas of the country.
(08-18-2013 02:39 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2013 01:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Look, you aren't moving to Detroit. Who is likely to move to Detroit? Liberals.
And ironically, who doesn't buy Detroit-made vehicles? Liberals.
The Big 3 perform most poorly in the darkest "blue" areas of the country.
Huh? Seems like only the libs in this room buy American cars. The cons like the furrin companies.
I can't vouch for the Spin Room and its sample size of a dozen or two. But I've been to Portland, San Fran and Manhattan and found a domestic vehicle to be a rare occurrence.
Quote:[A] map of car ownership - produced by R.L. Polk & Co. - overlaid on the electoral map reveals the surprising extent to which how we vote corresponds with what we drive.
Blue-staters on each coast, from Los Angeles to Seattle and from Boston to the District, are the most likely to drive foreign cars. Domestic brands have their highest levels of market share in the mostly conservative interior of the country.
In some blue states - where a Democrat has won at least three of the last four presidential contests - foreign cars have as much as 60 percent of the market, as measured by vehicle registrations. It is mostly in red states - Republican strongholds - where domestic cars have 74 percent of the market or more.
This pattern holds in 36 states and the District.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009..._headlines
(08-18-2013 03:57 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote: [ -> ]I can't vouch for the Spin Room and its sample size of a dozen or two. But I've been to Portland, San Fran and Manhattan and found a domestic vehicle to be a rare occurrence.
Quote:[A] map of car ownership - produced by R.L. Polk & Co. - overlaid on the electoral map reveals the surprising extent to which how we vote corresponds with what we drive.
Blue-staters on each coast, from Los Angeles to Seattle and from Boston to the District, are the most likely to drive foreign cars. Domestic brands have their highest levels of market share in the mostly conservative interior of the country.
In some blue states - where a Democrat has won at least three of the last four presidential contests - foreign cars have as much as 60 percent of the market, as measured by vehicle registrations. It is mostly in red states - Republican strongholds - where domestic cars have 74 percent of the market or more.
This pattern holds in 36 states and the District.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009..._headlines
I'm sure that this is skewed by the rural Ford/Chevy purchases.