I'd really like to see South Carolina do more home and homes with NC and VA schools. As one of the closest SEC schools to this area, playing games could start to really give as advantage recruiting that area.
Also, a once in a blue moon home and home with a Big Ten, Big 12, or Pac 12 power would be very cool as a fan.
Once before I die I'd like to see a USC/USC and Cocks/Trojans matchup
Well UT has a series with Oregon coming up. Of course I would love to see the Vols play VT and WVU. OSST and UT-Austin would also be intriguing games.
For UK, we need to keep Louisville on an annual basis, and I'd love to rotate nearby schools, like Indiana, Ohio State, WVU, and Va. Tech.
ACC: Georgia Tech, Clemson, Virginia, Florida State
Big 10: Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin
PAC: U.S.C., Arizona, Oregon, U.C.L.A., (Colorado again when they are up).
Big 12: Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Baylor
Other Regional Teams: Tulane, Southern Mississippi, Memphis, and South Florida
Big XII: Kansas. Hate that KU won't play us. Very old rivalry... over a century.
Big Ten: Illinois. Great series history. Home and home this time though.
PAC: Colorado. Old adversary as well. Not too far.
ACC: UNC. We can bring an NCAA committee with us.
(07-29-2013 09:39 PM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]Well UT has a series with Oregon coming up. Of course I would love to see the Vols play VT and WVU. OSST and UT-Austin would also be intriguing games.
I'd like to see the Vols play the Mountaineers myself. I'd get to watch WVU play within 10 miles of home. Morgantown is about an 8 hour drive, and I don't drive any longer...
(07-29-2013 09:58 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote: [ -> ]For UK, we need to keep Louisville on an annual basis, and I'd love to rotate nearby schools, like Indiana, Ohio State, WVU, and Va. Tech.
It will big for Kentucky to start recruiting the Ohio Valley area hard. They are the closest SEC school, which gives them a sales pitch to recruits who are only hearing from Big Ten teams.
(07-30-2013 12:37 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ]Big XII: Kansas. Hate that KU won't play us. Very old rivalry... over a
Yep. This is asinine on their part. Same with UT being babies about A&M leaving.
I imagine it'll get worked out in time, but theres too much ego at play here.
Oklahoma or Oklahoma st. We already have several old SWC members scheduled. Like TCU and TT. We also have Michigan scheduled. I would have rather had Kansas st. instead.
(07-30-2013 01:27 PM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ] (07-30-2013 12:37 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ]Big XII: Kansas. Hate that KU won't play us. Very old rivalry... over a
Yep. This is asinine on their part. Same with UT being babies about A&M leaving.
I imagine it'll get worked out in time, but theres too much ego at play here.
Time heals all...I hope.
For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
(08-01-2013 04:02 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ]For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
I'd love to see the vols play ECU, So. Cal and Texas. Texas for the battle of the orange UT's and So. Call for obvious reasons.
(08-01-2013 06:25 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 04:02 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ]For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
While the Arrowhead series had some positives, I do think that both sides would probably prefer to have games on their home turf. While it was good for the KC metro, certainly the local merchants in Lawrence and Columbia would rather have games in their towns. Good luck in the SEC in year 2 - now that the initial novelty isn't the primary storyline, I suspect you'll start the process of building new rivalries in earnest.
(08-02-2013 11:09 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 06:25 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 04:02 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ]For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
While the Arrowhead series had some positives, I do think that both sides would probably prefer to have games on their home turf. While it was good for the KC metro, certainly the local merchants in Lawrence and Columbia would rather have games in their towns. Good luck in the SEC in year 2 - now that the initial novelty isn't the primary storyline, I suspect you'll start the process of building new rivalries in earnest.
You know as soon as Missouri gets used to the SEC East, they will move us to the West and it will all start again... I believe KU is at least the third most desirable school in the Big XII. Academics, awesome national BB brand, and workable geographics for any new conference. We were both 10-0 six years ago when we met at the end of the year. KU will be back.
(08-02-2013 04:10 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 11:09 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 06:25 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 04:02 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ]For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
While the Arrowhead series had some positives, I do think that both sides would probably prefer to have games on their home turf. While it was good for the KC metro, certainly the local merchants in Lawrence and Columbia would rather have games in their towns. Good luck in the SEC in year 2 - now that the initial novelty isn't the primary storyline, I suspect you'll start the process of building new rivalries in earnest.
You know as soon as Missouri gets used to the SEC East, they will move us to the West and it will all start again... I believe KU is at least the third most desirable school in the Big XII. Academics, awesome national BB brand, and workable geographics for any new conference. We were both 10-0 six years ago when we met at the end of the year. KU will be back.
I think it's unlikely that we'd end up in the SEC, but I do think that being in a common conference again would be an important component to rekindling the rivalry, particularly if much time passes without the series resuming. I'm interested in seeing how the SEC shift impacts the level of Missouri fans' engagement. Things may be different in the KC area compared to St. Louis, but it's always seemed to me that there's been a lesser level of engagement by MU's fanbase than one might expect. I'm not saying it's on the level of apathy, certainly, but outside of games vs KU there just didn't seem to be a ton of energy there.
I do think that while there's still some ambivalence in this area regarding the move (I do think this area would have the strongest concentration of Big 12-centric MU fans compared to the state as a whole) the move has pumped some energy into the fanbase. Injuries and adjusting to a new league made year 1 tough, but we'll see what happens moving forward. If MU can get into the thick of it competitively in the SEC (no small task), I think that there will be a high level of fan engagement moving forward.
(08-02-2013 04:18 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 04:10 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 11:09 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 06:25 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 04:02 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ]For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
While the Arrowhead series had some positives, I do think that both sides would probably prefer to have games on their home turf. While it was good for the KC metro, certainly the local merchants in Lawrence and Columbia would rather have games in their towns. Good luck in the SEC in year 2 - now that the initial novelty isn't the primary storyline, I suspect you'll start the process of building new rivalries in earnest.
You know as soon as Missouri gets used to the SEC East, they will move us to the West and it will all start again... I believe KU is at least the third most desirable school in the Big XII. Academics, awesome national BB brand, and workable geographics for any new conference. We were both 10-0 six years ago when we met at the end of the year. KU will be back.
I think it's unlikely that we'd end up in the SEC, but I do think that being in a common conference again would be an important component to rekindling the rivalry, particularly if much time passes without the series resuming. I'm interested in seeing how the SEC shift impacts the level of Missouri fans' engagement. Things may be different in the KC area compared to St. Louis, but it's always seemed to me that there's been a lesser level of engagement by MU's fanbase than one might expect. I'm not saying it's on the level of apathy, certainly, but outside of games vs KU there just didn't seem to be a ton of energy there.
I do think that while there's still some ambivalence in this area regarding the move (I do think this area would have the strongest concentration of Big 12-centric MU fans compared to the state as a whole) the move has pumped some energy into the fanbase. Injuries and adjusting to a new league made year 1 tough, but we'll see what happens moving forward. If MU can get into the thick of it competitively in the SEC (no small task), I think that there will be a high level of fan engagement moving forward.
There was last year at least. Ticket sales went up. Mizzou fans traveled to the SEC schools in good numbers. I think the Big 8 going to the Big XII and splitting the conference into divisions didn't help. I think we lost a lot of unity.
(08-02-2013 04:18 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 04:10 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 11:09 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 06:25 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 04:02 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ]For all of the speculation about hurt feelings, I think that a bigger obstacle to ever resuming the KU/MU series will prove to be apathy. For a significant portion of our fanbase, we simply don't care about playing Missouri now. We have a keen in-state rivalry with KSU that has only picked up in intensity since the realignment change. If the Big 12 remains viable we'll be primarily focused on our conference mates, and if it does not we'll be looking at establishing bonds in a new home.
Meanwhile over in Columbia, Missouri is about to dive into year 2 of being in the SEC. I'd imagine their fanbase is a lot more focused on improving their standing in their new home than they are about playing KU in the non-conference schedule.
Even if one were to subscribe to the snit theory, I think that while every day that passes could reduce those hurt feelings, it also reduces any passion (on both sides) for resuming the series.
I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
While the Arrowhead series had some positives, I do think that both sides would probably prefer to have games on their home turf. While it was good for the KC metro, certainly the local merchants in Lawrence and Columbia would rather have games in their towns. Good luck in the SEC in year 2 - now that the initial novelty isn't the primary storyline, I suspect you'll start the process of building new rivalries in earnest.
You know as soon as Missouri gets used to the SEC East, they will move us to the West and it will all start again... I believe KU is at least the third most desirable school in the Big XII. Academics, awesome national BB brand, and workable geographics for any new conference. We were both 10-0 six years ago when we met at the end of the year. KU will be back.
I think it's unlikely that we'd end up in the SEC, but I do think that being in a common conference again would be an important component to rekindling the rivalry, particularly if much time passes without the series resuming. I'm interested in seeing how the SEC shift impacts the level of Missouri fans' engagement. Things may be different in the KC area compared to St. Louis, but it's always seemed to me that there's been a lesser level of engagement by MU's fanbase than one might expect. I'm not saying it's on the level of apathy, certainly, but outside of games vs KU there just didn't seem to be a ton of energy there.
I do think that while there's still some ambivalence in this area regarding the move (I do think this area would have the strongest concentration of Big 12-centric MU fans compared to the state as a whole) the move has pumped some energy into the fanbase. Injuries and adjusting to a new league made year 1 tough, but we'll see what happens moving forward. If MU can get into the thick of it competitively in the SEC (no small task), I think that there will be a high level of fan engagement moving forward.
I would think that the shock of leaving an organization that you helped to found and that was for decades central to your culture and world view would be very hard to assimilate in just a few years.
Heck, even if the SEC can't work out a deal with the ACC outright if we made the move to 18 by taking Iowa State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia while the ACC took Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, and Baylor it would be a danged big deal. The balance could even be shifted further if Wake Forest opts out of D4 and there is some question about that. Then either T.C.U. or Tech could be added to the ACC and with Miami a balance of six could be achieved again. The Canes have long trips everywhere it really wouldn't matter as much to them as it does to the other groupings.
By bringing in some of Mizzou's old buddies it would make their adjustment much easier.
(08-02-2013 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 04:18 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 04:10 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2013 11:09 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote: [ -> ] (08-01-2013 06:25 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote: [ -> ]I think a home and home series would be much better than the KC game.
The Arrowhead venue hurt the series. The fact that a school changes a conference for a better deal should not be a personal thing. If KU feels they can better the program by scheduling another school, That's cool. The real case for a bad KU attitude towards Mizzou, in my opinion, is the BB series which was electric. I think it will all settle down in a few years. I hope the Jayhawks end up in the B1G someday. Great fit. I bet the Big XII schools left behind will feel the same way about KU. Price of doing what's best for you. Best wishes this year.
While the Arrowhead series had some positives, I do think that both sides would probably prefer to have games on their home turf. While it was good for the KC metro, certainly the local merchants in Lawrence and Columbia would rather have games in their towns. Good luck in the SEC in year 2 - now that the initial novelty isn't the primary storyline, I suspect you'll start the process of building new rivalries in earnest.
You know as soon as Missouri gets used to the SEC East, they will move us to the West and it will all start again... I believe KU is at least the third most desirable school in the Big XII. Academics, awesome national BB brand, and workable geographics for any new conference. We were both 10-0 six years ago when we met at the end of the year. KU will be back.
I think it's unlikely that we'd end up in the SEC, but I do think that being in a common conference again would be an important component to rekindling the rivalry, particularly if much time passes without the series resuming. I'm interested in seeing how the SEC shift impacts the level of Missouri fans' engagement. Things may be different in the KC area compared to St. Louis, but it's always seemed to me that there's been a lesser level of engagement by MU's fanbase than one might expect. I'm not saying it's on the level of apathy, certainly, but outside of games vs KU there just didn't seem to be a ton of energy there.
I do think that while there's still some ambivalence in this area regarding the move (I do think this area would have the strongest concentration of Big 12-centric MU fans compared to the state as a whole) the move has pumped some energy into the fanbase. Injuries and adjusting to a new league made year 1 tough, but we'll see what happens moving forward. If MU can get into the thick of it competitively in the SEC (no small task), I think that there will be a high level of fan engagement moving forward.
I would think that the shock of leaving an organization that you helped to found and that was for decades central to your culture and world view would be very hard to assimilate in just a few years.
Heck, even if the SEC can't work out a deal with the ACC outright if we made the move to 18 by taking Iowa State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia while the ACC took Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, and Baylor it would be a danged big deal. The balance could even be shifted further if Wake Forest opts out of D4 and there is some question about that. Then either T.C.U. or Tech could be added to the ACC and with Miami a balance of six could be achieved again. The Canes have long trips everywhere it really wouldn't matter as much to them as it does to the other groupings.
By bringing in some of Mizzou's old buddies it would make their adjustment much easier.
I would like to see WVU and one other Big XII school in the SEC. Iowa State might be pushing it. Maybe flip K State with Iowa State. You then have the KU/KSU and Mizzou/KU series again.
1. Alabama vs Georgia Tech (home&home)---2:30 PM kick
2. Alabama vs Southern Cal (neutral) Pheonix, AZ or New Orleans, LA---7:00 PM kick
3. Alabama vs Nebraska (home&home)---4:30 PM kick
4. Alabama vs Oklahoma (home&home)---2:30 PM kick
5. Alabama vs Oregon (home&home)---8:00 PM kick
6. Alabama vs Ohio State (neutral) Nashville, TN or Indianapolis, IN---12:30 PM kick
7. Alabama vs Florida State (home&home)---7:00 PM kick
8. Alabama vs Miami FL (neutral) Jacksonville, FL or Atlanta, GA---2:30 PM kick
9. Alabama vs Syracuse (neutral) Charlotte, NC or Pittsburgh, PA---4:30 PM kick
10. Alabama vs Washington (home&home)---7:00 PM kick
I think all of these games would be awesome, as far as for fans around the country and for each respective team playing in these games. Also a great recruiting tool.
All time slots are Central Standard Time. These games would be insane.