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.... Because you really trust people like California who can't keep potholes that devour tires out of basic asphalt to keep meticulously cambered, banked, and parallel tracks in earthquake country.

1) trains in europe are allowed to go twice as fast as any US train

2) this was most likely caused by the driver not paying attention rather than a mechanical issue

(07-25-2013 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]1) trains in europe are allowed to go twice as fast as any US train

2) this was most likely caused by the driver not paying attention rather than a mechanical issue

Maybe - but from what I saw in that video it looked like one of the cars was tilting over before the turn started. I'm interested to see what the investigation will determine actually happened! At least these crashes don't happen with any frequency - not to be said for airplanes, ships, and - even more so - cars.

(07-25-2013 08:11 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]1) trains in europe are allowed to go twice as fast as any US train

2) this was most likely caused by the driver not paying attention rather than a mechanical issue

Maybe - but from what I saw in that video it looked like one of the cars was tilting over before the turn started. I'm interested to see what the investigation will determine actually happened! At least these crashes don't happen with any frequency - not to be said for airplanes, ships, and - even more so - cars.

every expert that has been interviewed on a major tv network has said the train appears to be going at twice the speed it should have

(07-25-2013 08:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 08:11 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]1) trains in europe are allowed to go twice as fast as any US train

2) this was most likely caused by the driver not paying attention rather than a mechanical issue

Maybe - but from what I saw in that video it looked like one of the cars was tilting over before the turn started. I'm interested to see what the investigation will determine actually happened! At least these crashes don't happen with any frequency - not to be said for airplanes, ships, and - even more so - cars.

every expert that has been interviewed on a major tv network has said the train appears to be going at twice the speed it should have

I think I heard that. That's all very interesting... surely there have got to be safety measures or something in place so it doesn't do that?? IDK. I'm just glad the Miami METRO only goes at like 70 mph LOL, it's pretty safe.

Yeah, because rockets never crashed. Conservatives are so negative about everything.

(07-25-2013 08:14 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 08:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 08:11 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]1) trains in europe are allowed to go twice as fast as any US train

2) this was most likely caused by the driver not paying attention rather than a mechanical issue

Maybe - but from what I saw in that video it looked like one of the cars was tilting over before the turn started. I'm interested to see what the investigation will determine actually happened! At least these crashes don't happen with any frequency - not to be said for airplanes, ships, and - even more so - cars.

every expert that has been interviewed on a major tv network has said the train appears to be going at twice the speed it should have

I think I heard that. That's all very interesting... surely there have got to be safety measures or something in place so it doesn't do that?? IDK. I'm just glad the Miami METRO only goes at like 70 mph LOL, it's pretty safe.

i come from a family from engineers and they were saying the same thing. these trains are supposed to have emergency shut offs/emergency brakes if they are going too fast. clearly whatever happened thats something to be looked at. but it does seem that without a doubt that speed was the number one cause

(07-25-2013 08:11 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 07:29 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]1) trains in europe are allowed to go twice as fast as any US train

2) this was most likely caused by the driver not paying attention rather than a mechanical issue

Maybe - but from what I saw in that video it looked like one of the cars was tilting over before the turn started. I'm interested to see what the investigation will determine actually happened! At least these crashes don't happen with any frequency - not to be said for airplanes, ships, and - even more so - cars.

Here is a list of some of the most deadly train crashes and rail accidents in Europe in the past 25 years:

December 1988 - BRITAIN - Thirty-five people die in a crash involving three trains at Clapham Junction in London. Slack safety measures are blamed.

October 1999 - BRITAIN - Two trains collide near London's Paddington station, killing 31 people. One of the trains had gone through a red signal.

November 2000 - AUSTRIA - A fire in a tunnel engulfs a funicular train packed with skiers killing 155 people.

May 2003 - HUNGARY - Thirty-four people are killed when the Budapest-Nagykanizsa train hits a coach full of mainly elderly German holidaymakers at a level crossing near Siofok.

June 2003 - SPAIN - A passenger train travelling to Cartagena from Madrid crashes into the path of an oncoming goods train at Chinchilla, killing 19.

January 2005 - ITALY - Seventeen people are killed when a passenger train and a freight train crash north of Bologna.

January 2006 - MONTENEGRO - Up to 46 people are killed and 198 injured when a packed train derails and plunges into a ravine outside the capital Podgorica.

July 2006 - SPAIN - Forty-one people are killed when an underground train derails and overturns in a tunnel just before entering the Jesus metro station in Valencia.

September 2006 - GERMANY - The Transrapid magnetic levitation train, which floats on a magnetic cushion, hits a maintenance vehicle on a test track in the Emsland area, killing 23 people.

June 2009 - ITALY - An explosion on a passing freight train sets fire to nearby homes and burns families while they sleep in the seaside town of Viareggio, killing around 22 people.

February 2010 - BELGIUM - Two trains crash head-on in snowy conditions at the village of Buizingen, near Halle, southwest of Brussels, killing 18 people.

March 2012 - POLAND - Two passenger trains derail in a head-on collision near Szczekociny. Sixteen people die and 58 are injured.

July 24, 2013 - SPAIN - Up to 45 people are killed and around 70 injured when a train derails on the outskirts of Santiago de Compostela on the eve of the city's main Christian festival.

(07-25-2013 09:57 PM)Paul M Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, train crashes don't happen often

Leftists don't like facts. That's why they just make stuff up to "prove" their points.

From what I've heard, this crash was probably due to the train going to fast through the curve. The limit was like 40 kph and the train was going like double or triple that speed. The conductor even bragged about it on FB one time. So, this could be human error/ignorance and not something inherently wrong with the train, etc.

Why even speculate? Let the investigation show the facts, then discuss.

(07-26-2013 09:13 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]Why even speculate? Let the investigation show the facts, then discuss.

%#@&!, we don't want to wait.

Rails do not capture the train. Load shifts, speed, rail condition, high winds, obstructions, and more can lift a rail car.

Maglevs are contained by the track and go 200-300 mph, so track damage is your only variable. Who cancelled all of the technology grants & programs for welfare programs?

The Oconomy is great, isn't it?

It's unfortunate that the United States does not have high speed trains throughout the nation.

I would love to do the Wolverine on one of those babies.

(07-26-2013 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]It's unfortunate that the United States does not have high speed trains throughout the nation.

There is nothing unfortunate about it.

Passenger trains are a waste of money and harm the environment.

(07-26-2013 02:37 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2013 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]It's unfortunate that the United States does not have high speed trains throughout the nation.

There is nothing unfortunate about it.

Passenger trains are a waste of money and harm the environment.

Even in Europe?

(07-26-2013 02:37 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2013 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]It's unfortunate that the United States does not have high speed trains throughout the nation.

There is nothing unfortunate about it.

Passenger trains are a waste of money and harm the environment.

So are cars but that doesn't stop people from using them all the time.

(07-26-2013 03:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2013 02:37 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2013 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]It's unfortunate that the United States does not have high speed trains throughout the nation.

There is nothing unfortunate about it.

Passenger trains are a waste of money and harm the environment.

So are cars but that doesn't stop people from using them all the time.

Teleportation is the only answer.

(07-26-2013 03:11 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2013 02:37 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-26-2013 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]It's unfortunate that the United States does not have high speed trains throughout the nation.

There is nothing unfortunate about it.

Passenger trains are a waste of money and harm the environment.

Even in Europe?

please explain that one.......