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WMU is behind GVSU and nearly everyone else, but ahead of CMU and EMU. Bad day for the directionals. Go figure, the rankings are worth a grain of salt. Got to use the state filter to find Michigan rankings.

http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/...r:Michigan



Rank Name State Cost Total Student Population

30 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Michigan $51,976 42,716

120 Kalamazoo College
Michigan $48,547 1,375

154 Michigan State University
Michigan $43,986 47,825

196 Hillsdale College
Michigan N/A N/A

214 Calvin College
Michigan $39,355 3,967

221 Albion College
Michigan $45,884 1,514

222 Hope College
Michigan $38,680 3,249

324 Michigan Technological University
Michigan $39,583 7,022

411 Alma College
Michigan $42,312 1,417

494 Wayne State University
Michigan $33,810 30,765

543 Andrews University
Michigan $34,056 3,547

555 Oakland University
Michigan $35,279 19,379

566 Grand Valley State University
Michigan $26,198 24,662

581 Western Michigan University
Michigan $35,976 25,086

604 Central Michigan University
Michigan $34,366 28,194

610 Eastern Michigan University
Michigan $34,950 23,419

Their methodology is a joke. Seriously, go look at it. Part of their metrics is average score on rate my professor...

(07-25-2013 02:06 PM)WMU_Flyboy Wrote: [ -> ]Their methodology is a joke. Seriously, go look at it. Part of their metrics is average score on rate my professor...

Seriously? Just... wow.

RMP has all the credibility of the National Enquirer.

Most ridiculous, arbitrary ranking I've ever seen.

Any ranking system that puts Hillsdale, Albion, Alma, GVSU, WSU, Oakland, Andrews, etc...above WMU in any objectively quantifiable category is an absolute joke.

K College above MSU? Michigan Tech so far down? My god, it's making my head hurt just thinking of how they could have come to these conclusions.

For a REAL ranking system, refer to U.S. News and World Report's annual list.

Theses ranking criteria are like when Michigan native David Stockman was budget director for President Reagan and he said the following:

" none of us really understand what any of these numbers mean."

(07-25-2013 02:15 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: [ -> ]For a REAL ranking system, refer to U.S. News and World Report's annual list.

Bad example. US News' rankings is as flawed as it gets. Ask George Washington alums and parents who footed the bills.

(07-26-2013 03:40 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-25-2013 02:15 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: [ -> ]For a REAL ranking system, refer to U.S. News and World Report's annual list.

Bad example. US News' rankings is as flawed as it gets. Ask George Washington alums and parents who footed the bills.

I feel that every college ranking system is going to be flawed to some extent, but USNWR at least uses actual criteria and standards in it's lists.

Harvard is #8 and MIT is #10 on that list! Really?
The U S Military Academy is #7. Though it is a fine institution that is very selective, they are not on par with most of the Ivys and MIT. Being a former soldier that served with a lot of West Pointers, I can tell you, many of a complete dumb a$$ has graduated from that place.

Of course they all rate their profs highly. That is part of culture of the military. In theory, you earn command. In other words, the instructors got their positions because they earned it by excelling in the military and therefore the Plebe gives their utmost respect.......or they do push-ups until they puke!

In contrast, partying, college kids in the civilian world often have the opposite opinion of their professors and their accomplishments. You know, he is just some "old guy that is making them write a paper this weekend while everyone is going to Waldos".

(07-26-2013 04:58 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: [ -> ]I feel that every college ranking system is going to be flawed to some extent, but USNWR at least uses actual criteria and standards in it's lists.

Unfortunately that "actual criteria and standards" is completely based on voluntarily provided info which is completely and totally manipulated by participating schools.