04-10-2017, 03:04 PM
(04-10-2017 02:38 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: [ -> ](04-10-2017 02:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Since February we have some new information on conference statistics. The financial information is as current as we have but is still for the 2015-6 season. The attendance figures are for Fall of 2016.
Conference MEAN Gross Revenue:
1. SEC: $121,240,504
2. B1G: $108,269,417 ($12,971,087 behind the SEC)
3. B12: $102,170,537 ( $6,098,880 behind the B1G & $19,069,967 behind the SEC)
4. PAC: $ 89,239,736 ($12,930,801 behind the B12 & $32,000,768 behind the SEC)
5. ACC: $ 87,034,205 ( $2,205,531 behind the PAC & $34,206,299 behind the SEC)
Conference MEAN Attendance for Football:
1. SEC: 77,565
2. B1G: 66,162 (11,403 behind the SEC)
3. B12: 57,238 ( 8,924 behind the B1G & 20,327 behind the SEC)
4. PAC: 50,112 ( 7,126 behind the B12 & 27,453 behind the SEC)
5. ACC: 49,827 ( 285 behind the PAC & 27,738 behind the SEC)
Of all of the Big 12 Schools only Texas and Oklahoma add to the SEC MEAN Gross Revenue and the SEC MEAN Attendance figures. But they add enough that they could cover 2 other additions if required and still show an increase in the SEC MEAN Gross Revenue and only a slight decline in the SEC MEAN Attendance figures.
So this means that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State is viable.
Or, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia is viable
Or, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, West Virginia may be viable. But, for the latter the SEC Mean Attendance would take a large hit. Kansas State only averaged 25,000 in attendance for football last season. This will be a major albatross around their necks should they seek a conference home in either the B1G or SEC.
Would a move to the SEC increase Kansas attendance though? Bringing in OK gives us OK-Alabama, OK-Texas A&M, OK-Auburn, OK-LSU, etc, which I would think would be huge games, but Kansas-Alabama, Kansas-Texas A&M, etc, doesn't exactly scream much-watch. On the other hand, Kansas-Missouri would.
Also, just like other schools, how much of this is winning related?
Taking their Orange Bowl season, I see:
vs. Central Michigan 46,815
vs. SE Louisiana 43,914
vs. Toledo 48,112
vs. Baylor 43,556
vs. Nebraska 51,910
vs. Iowa State 51,050
vs. Missouri 80,537 (Arrowhead)
Similar numbers in 2008, 2009, and only slightly lower numbers in 2010, 2011, 2012, then another dip in 2013 and a heavier dip in 2014. The painful numbers hit in 2015 (25,910 vs. 3 Baylor and 26,677 vs. 14 OK).
Of course the school had to fire Mangino, and Kansas isn't a destination school, but seems like they are only a good coaching hire away from having solid attendance, if not spectacular or SEC level. A decent G5 coach might want a chance and take the first P5 job, or perhaps someone who doesn't mind being the number 2 guy behind Self and who can thrive outside of the limelight?
Even in the 40's Kansas (who 81st nationally in attendance last year) would only climb into 70's. I just don't see that getting her done. Those empty seats are a revenue drain on a conference that frequently sells out visiting allotments. As a basketball brand they are terrific! But basketball is only 15% of the Gross Revenue.