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Since we don't have Football, I am thinking, why would our AD be pushing for a bowl game here in LR? In what way would it benefit UALR even if the idea develops into being successful? You know hog fans would not be supportive, especially if ASU was involved. I even have doubts that ASU would be particularly interested in playing in LR. ASU has tried playing a game in LR and for the most part didn't get enough media or fan support. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of those who use this Board and some ASU supporters.

(06-19-2013 03:48 PM)DollarBill Wrote: [ -> ]Since we don't have Football, I am thinking, why would our AD be pushing for a bowl game here in LR? In what way would it benefit UALR even if the idea develops into being successful? You know hog fans would not be supportive, especially if ASU was involved. I even have doubts that ASU would be particularly interested in playing in LR. ASU has tried playing a game in LR and for the most part didn't get enough media or fan support. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of those who use this Board and some ASU supporters.

I think you raise some very interesting questions. It would be great seeing such efforts going into the promotion of UALR sports wouldn't it?

(06-19-2013 03:57 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2013 03:48 PM)DollarBill Wrote: [ -> ]Since we don't have Football, I am thinking, why would our AD be pushing for a bowl game here in LR? In what way would it benefit UALR even if the idea develops into being successful? You know hog fans would not be supportive, especially if ASU was involved. I even have doubts that ASU would be particularly interested in playing in LR. ASU has tried playing a game in LR and for the most part didn't get enough media or fan support. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of those who use this Board and some ASU supporters.

I think you raise some very interesting questions. It would be great seeing such efforts going into the promotion of UALR sports wouldn't it?

It really would. The energy, time, money, and effort being put into this could get Little Rock a really nice annual Christmas Basketball tournament at Verizon Arena which could bring in a BCS school or 2 to play UALR and possibly even ASU. I'd certainly be more likely to buy tickets for a game inside Verizon rather than sitting on the cold metal bleachers at War Memorial in mid to late December. Other than if ASU is involved, what Sun Belt vs. MAC matchup would put more than 10,000 people in the stands at War Memorial? Even 10K may be wishful thinking.

Chris said A State vs La Tech.

We all know that would pack them in. A State has huge fan support state wide and in little rock and La Tech is hated by everyone, so sell out *******!

(06-19-2013 03:57 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2013 03:48 PM)DollarBill Wrote: [ -> ]Since we don't have Football, I am thinking, why would our AD be pushing for a bowl game here in LR? In what way would it benefit UALR even if the idea develops into being successful? You know hog fans would not be supportive, especially if ASU was involved. I even have doubts that ASU would be particularly interested in playing in LR. ASU has tried playing a game in LR and for the most part didn't get enough media or fan support. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of those who use this Board and some ASU supporters.

I think you raise some very interesting questions. It would be great seeing such efforts going into the promotion of UALR sports wouldn't it?

I wholeheartedly agree with both Gene and Peter that our AD should spend his time promoting UALR and not a football bowl game that would not have anything to do with us since we don't play football. I would guess that whoever took on that gigantic task of ramrodding a bowl game, and especially a new bowl game, would spend literally thousands of hours at this job.

I also doubt that a bowl game with ASU would draw much over 20,000 or so, and if another Sun Belt other than ASU was the host team, I doubt that it would draw flies. It's pretty much a proven fact that the city of Little Rock isn't going to support anything that doesn't have the name Hogs or Clinton attached to it.

When Chris Peterson gets the UALR program to the point that it is once again respected in the state, then he might think about something like the bowl game if he wants to do some volunteer charitable work. Right now I think he's got a lot of work to do to get our program to that point, and doesn't have time for charitable work.

I'll let LR fans sort out whether you want your ad involved in the bowl. That's your issue.

Having gone to Mobile for the GoDaddy Bowl the last two years, I can offer the following:

1. I would estimate that stAte took 8,000 plus two years ago maybe a few less last year.

2. The MAC schools brought 2 to 3 thousand. (These are my observations and not based on official numbers).

3. The games each drew north of 30,000 in a 40,000 seat venue. Very good local support.

4. While you can knock 10,000 to 12,000 guess during the first weekend in January, in Mobile, Alabama, that in enough to fill every hotel and the better places to eat and drink. In Mobile to Sun Belt team gets downtown and the MAC gets the airport hotels. stAte "painted the town red" both years.

5. This cn be very good if there is local support.


6. Several years ago Memphis went to Mobile. My relatives that went told me what to expect and they were right.

7. A minor bowl game can be a good thing for LR, if it is supported locally.

8. From the Sun Belt stAte, the Cajuns and ULM would all bring good crowds. Texas State, Troy and USA would be decent as well. I am sure the idea would be for a bowl in LR to get a team from the west (or Alabama).

9. Getting cusa or the conference formerly known as th big east would be better thn the Mac as that would bring LaTech and USM and unt or Memphis, Tulsa and SMU into play.

In summary, this can be as good as LR makes it.

(06-19-2013 07:44 PM)hb8 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll let LR fans sort out whether you want your ad involved in the bowl. That's your issue.

Having gone to Mobile for the GoDaddy Bowl the last two years, I can offer the following:

1. I would estimate that stAte took 8,000 plus two years ago maybe a few less last year.

2. The MAC schools brought 2 to 3 thousand. (These are my observations and not based on official numbers.

3. The games each drew north of 30,000 in a 40,000 seat venue. Very good local support.

4. While you can knock 10,000 to 12,000 guess during the first weekend in January, in Mobile, Alabama, that in enough to fill every hotel and the better places to eat and drink. In Mobile to Sun Belt team gets downtown and the MAC gets the aiort hotels. stAte "painted the town red" both years.

5. Mobile supports its bowl. Signage welcome the fans, waiters and sales persons know why their guests are there. No smart aleck "big timing" by Bama or Auburn fans. We were treated very graciously.

6. Several years ago Memphis went to Mobile. My relatives that went told me what to expect and they were right.

7. A minor bowl game can be a good thing for LR, if it is supported locally.

8. From the Sun Belt stAte, the Cajuns and ULM would all bring good crowds. Texas State, Troy and USA would be decent as well. I am sure the idea would be for a bel in LR to get a team fom the west (or Alabama).

9. Getting cusa or the conference formerly known as th big east would be better thn the Mac as that would bring LaTech and USM and unt or Memphis, Tulsa and SMU into play.

In summary, this can be as good as LR makes it.

Yes, getting ConUSA or the Conference Formerly Known as the Big East would make a lot more sense than the MAC. Just don't know if you can get either of those. Certainly a Memphis/ASU or LaTech/ASU would bring quiet a few folks to LR.

This thing will fail without stAte.

I know ulm has drawn really well at its home games at WM, it seemed there were more visitor fans than ulm fans at those games.

In short, I don't think Monroe can draw jack **** in little rock and the mac team would out draw them, so there would be 500 real cold people at WM for this.

God help them, I hope it works.

(06-19-2013 08:15 PM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]This thing will fail without stAte.

I know ulm has drawn really well at its home games at WM, it seemed there were more visitor fans than ulm fans at those games.

In short, I don't think Monroe can draw jack **** in little rock and the mac team would out draw them, so there would be 500 real cold people at WM for this.

God help them, I hope it works.

UL would bring many thousands. ULM would bring some. ASU many thousands. I suspect Texas State would bring a lot. App State would bring a lot and Georgia Southern would bring some. Troy would bring some as well. NMSU and Idaho would be nightmares. USA and GaState would be weak.

ASU and UALR fans would have to come out and support the conference/state/city.

If it can be created it should be created.

(06-19-2013 07:44 PM)hb8 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll let LR fans sort out whether you want your ad involved in the bowl. That's your issue.

Having gone to Mobile for the GoDaddy Bowl the last two years, I can offer the following:

1. I would estimate that stAte took 8,000 plus two years ago maybe a few less last year.

2. The MAC schools brought 2 to 3 thousand. (These are my observations and not based on official numbers).

3. The games each drew north of 30,000 in a 40,000 seat venue. Very good local support.

4. While you can knock 10,000 to 12,000 guess during the first weekend in January, in Mobile, Alabama, that in enough to fill every hotel and the better places to eat and drink. In Mobile to Sun Belt team gets downtown and the MAC gets the airport hotels. stAte "painted the town red" both years.

5. This cn be very good if there is local support.


6. Several years ago Memphis went to Mobile. My relatives that went told me what to expect and they were right.

7. A minor bowl game can be a good thing for LR, if it is supported locally.

8. From the Sun Belt stAte, the Cajuns and ULM would all bring good crowds. Texas State, Troy and USA would be decent as well. I am sure the idea would be for a bowl in LR to get a team from the west (or Alabama).

9. Getting cusa or the conference formerly known as th big east would be better thn the Mac as that would bring LaTech and USM and unt or Memphis, Tulsa and SMU into play.

In summary, this can be as good as LR makes it.

Everything you said makes sense. Your summary says it best, "this can be as good as LR makes it." True. The problem is that LR ain't worth a **** at supporting anything except hogs. I believe as you said, that it could be a very good thing for the city of LR, you know, hotels and restaurants and so forth. I'd like to see it come to fruition, but I don't want our AD to be the one leading it. Let the LR mayor(I see where he's going to get a humongous raise this year), and I don't see where he does much of anything else, or maybe the Chamber of Commerce do the work. Peterson needs to be firing and hiring coaches that can move this program forward. I'd probably come out to watch ASU play in a bowl game. Probably wouldn't for any other Sun Belt team.

(06-19-2013 08:33 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2013 07:44 PM)hb8 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll let LR fans sort out whether you want your ad involved in the bowl. That's your issue.

Having gone to Mobile for the GoDaddy Bowl the last two years, I can offer the following:

1. I would estimate that stAte took 8,000 plus two years ago maybe a few less last year.

2. The MAC schools brought 2 to 3 thousand. (These are my observations and not based on official numbers).

3. The games each drew north of 30,000 in a 40,000 seat venue. Very good local support.

4. While you can knock 10,000 to 12,000 guess during the first weekend in January, in Mobile, Alabama, that in enough to fill every hotel and the better places to eat and drink. In Mobile to Sun Belt team gets downtown and the MAC gets the airport hotels. stAte "painted the town red" both years.

5. This cn be very good if there is local support.


6. Several years ago Memphis went to Mobile. My relatives that went told me what to expect and they were right.

7. A minor bowl game can be a good thing for LR, if it is supported locally.

8. From the Sun Belt stAte, the Cajuns and ULM would all bring good crowds. Texas State, Troy and USA would be decent as well. I am sure the idea would be for a bowl in LR to get a team from the west (or Alabama).

9. Getting cusa or the conference formerly known as th big east would be better thn the Mac as that would bring LaTech and USM and unt or Memphis, Tulsa and SMU into play.

In summary, this can be as good as LR makes it.

Everything you said makes sense. Your summary says it best, "this can be as good as LR makes it." True. The problem is that LR ain't worth a **** at supporting anything except hogs. I believe as you said, that it could be a very good thing for the city of LR, you know, hotels and restaurants and so forth. I'd like to see it come to fruition, but I don't want our AD to be the one leading it. Let the LR mayor(I see where he's going to get a humongous raise this year), and I don't see where he does much of anything else, or maybe the Chamber of Commerce do the work. Peterson needs to be firing and hiring coaches that can move this program forward. I'd probably come out to watch ASU play in a bowl game. Probably wouldn't for any other Sun Belt team.

Little Rock needs to learn how to be a sports town that appreciates sports in addition to just teams. It would do a world of good in attracting big events.

I'll be at a LR Sun Belt game rooting for the Sun Belt team even if it's one of the teams I can't stand.

(06-19-2013 08:47 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2013 08:33 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2013 07:44 PM)hb8 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll let LR fans sort out whether you want your ad involved in the bowl. That's your issue.

Having gone to Mobile for the GoDaddy Bowl the last two years, I can offer the following:

1. I would estimate that stAte took 8,000 plus two years ago maybe a few less last year.

2. The MAC schools brought 2 to 3 thousand. (These are my observations and not based on official numbers).

3. The games each drew north of 30,000 in a 40,000 seat venue. Very good local support.

4. While you can knock 10,000 to 12,000 guess during the first weekend in January, in Mobile, Alabama, that in enough to fill every hotel and the better places to eat and drink. In Mobile to Sun Belt team gets downtown and the MAC gets the airport hotels. stAte "painted the town red" both years.

5. This cn be very good if there is local support.


6. Several years ago Memphis went to Mobile. My relatives that went told me what to expect and they were right.

7. A minor bowl game can be a good thing for LR, if it is supported locally.

8. From the Sun Belt stAte, the Cajuns and ULM would all bring good crowds. Texas State, Troy and USA would be decent as well. I am sure the idea would be for a bowl in LR to get a team from the west (or Alabama).

9. Getting cusa or the conference formerly known as th big east would be better thn the Mac as that would bring LaTech and USM and unt or Memphis, Tulsa and SMU into play.

In summary, this can be as good as LR makes it.

Everything you said makes sense. Your summary says it best, "this can be as good as LR makes it." True. The problem is that LR ain't worth a **** at supporting anything except hogs. I believe as you said, that it could be a very good thing for the city of LR, you know, hotels and restaurants and so forth. I'd like to see it come to fruition, but I don't want our AD to be the one leading it. Let the LR mayor(I see where he's going to get a humongous raise this year), and I don't see where he does much of anything else, or maybe the Chamber of Commerce do the work. Peterson needs to be firing and hiring coaches that can move this program forward. I'd probably come out to watch ASU play in a bowl game. Probably wouldn't for any other Sun Belt team.

Little Rock needs to learn how to be a sports town that appreciates sports in addition to just teams. It would do a world of good in attracting big events.

I'll be at a LR Sun Belt game rooting for the Sun Belt team even if it's one of the teams I can't stand.

I've pretty much given up on the vast majority in our provential State being real sports fans. They are Hog fans and are totally my myoptic about anything else. Just try talking to most fans of the Hogs about the NCAA basketball tournament when their team isn't in it. They act like it doesn't even exist for the most part. Sad but true.

ULM drew a good crowd this year to the Indy Bowl in Shreveport. I think they would draw decently to LR. Not the numbers stAte and the Cajuns would bring but good nonetheless.

Mobile supports its bowl. Shreveport supports its bowl. LR has comparable resourses. It can work. We'll see if it does.

(06-19-2013 09:56 PM)hb8 Wrote: [ -> ]ULM drew a good crowd this year to the Indy Bowl in Shreveport. I think they would draw decently to LR. Not the numbers stAte and the Cajuns would bring but good nonetheless.

Mobile supports its bowl. Shreveport supports its bowl. LR has comparable resourses. It can work. We'll see if it does.

Little Rock won't support a bowl unless the pigs are involved. So the only way it will have a half-decent crowd is if you get teams that will bring thousands of fans. I doubt any MAC school would bring a huge number of fans. ASU would. Not sure any other Belt team would. ULL brought a ton down the road in New Orleans. Would they come to Little Rock? I wouldn't bet on it. AppSt and Ga.Southern have good fans. Just not sure they would drive half-way across the country to watch their school play a MAC team they never heard of. You can't always control who ends up in your bowl. You end up with Buffalo/Akron/UMass, etc. vs. USA/GaState etc. on a cold December day in LR, you might not have 1000 people there. Is that a risk Little Rock and the folks who will financially back the game want to take?

(06-19-2013 11:16 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2013 09:56 PM)hb8 Wrote: [ -> ]ULM drew a good crowd this year to the Indy Bowl in Shreveport. I think they would draw decently to LR. Not the numbers stAte and the Cajuns would bring but good nonetheless.

Mobile supports its bowl. Shreveport supports its bowl. LR has comparable resourses. It can work. We'll see if it does.

Little Rock won't support a bowl unless the pigs are involved. So the only way it will have a half-decent crowd is if you get teams that will bring thousands of fans. I doubt any MAC school would bring a huge number of fans. ASU would. Not sure any other Belt team would. ULL brought a ton down the road in New Orleans. Would they come to Little Rock? I wouldn't bet on it. AppSt and Ga.Southern have good fans. Just not sure they would drive half-way across the country to watch their school play a MAC team they never heard of. You can't always control who ends up in your bowl. You end up with Buffalo/Akron/UMass, etc. vs. USA/GaState etc. on a cold December day in LR, you might not have 1000 people there. Is that a risk Little Rock and the folks who will financially back the game want to take?

Despite my negativity, I am always in favor of seeing Little Rock do something sportswise and thus hope the bowl gets done. However, based on my experience in this town I have a hard time believing local folks will support it. Oh ya, as we know, some folks will support it with their money- I just don't think they'll be many Little Rock folks in the seats.

I hope it works.

I took this pic of "local" at the sbc tournament this year



Just hope we can get about 10k of these fans there.


Throw in 10k from the schools and you got a half full stadium.

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