It sounds like the SEC is going to hold steadfast to most of its tie-ins but I expect the Independence Bowl and Birmingham Bowl to be out because of all the CFP bowl slots.
It makes sense for the SEC to be no deeper than 8 non-CFP bowls, IMO.
Sounds like the ACC had to give up something in order to get the Capital One slot when the BIG plays in the OB. Thus you have the shared Gator and Music City Bowl between the ACC and BIG. I also wonder how this will affect the Belk since they wanted an SEC team as well. Does this also mean the Russell will get a Big 12 opponent?
So the No. 2 team will be playing in the Citrus Bowl no matter what, right? Either way, the No. 2 team will play in Orlando - in the Capital One Bowl or the Russell Athletic Bowl? I don't see the controversy here at all. Seems like a logical move to me.
the author of this article made it seem as if the acc was giving up the gator bowl....the acc lost the gator bowl a couple of years ago so really they are gaining a 1/2 slot in the gator bowl and the capital one bowl while giving up a 1/2 slot in the music city bowl and the russell athletic bowl. sounds like a good deal for the acc.
Liking the Bowl Lineup...have some access points to the Gator Bowl, Capitol One Bowl and Russell Athletic Bowl...also appears that the ACC/SEC/B1G are working on together to get the best matchup possible.
Also find it interesting that most of these discussions have been between the BIG, SEC, and ACC without the Pac12 or Big12
(05-13-2013 08:57 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]Also find it interesting that most of these discussions have been between the BIG, SEC, and ACC without the Pac12 or Big12
I like that !
Make the most sense since those Bowls are in the Eastern part of the Country where most fans of those conferences live.
If you look @ it from the Orange Bowl, Capitol One Bowl, Gator Bowl & Music City Bowl you see the ACC, B1G & SEC working together...that a very good thing.
So ACC will have:
Orange vs SEC/B1G/ND
Capital One vs SEC (in years when B1G is OB opponent)
Russell vs XII (likely)
Belk vs SEC (likely)
Gator/Music City vs SEC
Pinstripe vs B1G (likely)
And three others
(05-13-2013 07:57 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: [ -> ]It sounds like the SEC is going to hold steadfast to most of its tie-ins but I expect the Independence Bowl and Birmingham Bowl to be out because of all the CFP bowl slots.
It makes sense for the SEC to be no deeper than 8 non-CFP bowls, IMO.
For whatever reason American Athletic fans scoff at the Independence Bowl. It has a high payout, and they have a legit chance of getting a tie-in there. The American needs to go hard after the Liberty and Independence Bowls. Throw in the Beef Bowl, and the American suddenly has three solid bowl destinations.
(05-13-2013 09:24 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]So ACC will have:
Orange vs SEC/B1G/ND
Capital One vs SEC (in years when B1G is OB opponent)
Russell vs XII (likely)
Belk vs SEC (likely)
Gator/Music City vs SEC
Pinstripe vs B1G (likely)
And three others
Not a bad haul
(05-13-2013 08:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like the ACC had to give up something in order to get the Capital One slot when the BIG plays in the OB. Thus you have the shared Gator and Music City Bowl between the ACC and BIG. I also wonder how this will affect the Belk since they wanted an SEC team as well. Does this also mean the Russell will get a Big 12 opponent?
I'll still believe the Capital One Bowl setup when I see it - I'd still wager that it's a strict SEC vs. Big Ten tie-in no matter what, especially if the Russell Athletic Bowl is now locked in with ACC #2. Reading between the lines of the ESPN article, the ACC bowl order changed drastically from what most people thought would be the case from a couple of weeks ago (as they didn't seem to think ACC #2 was going to Orlando). The Capital One Big Ten/ACC rotation would have made a little bit of sense if the Russell Athletic Bowl hadn't moved past the Belk/Music City/Gator combo for ACC #2. Now, it doesn't seem to make sense at all (and I didn't think it made sense in the first place, anyway).
(05-13-2013 09:24 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]So ACC will have:
Orange vs SEC/B1G/ND
Capital One vs SEC (in years when B1G is OB opponent)
Russell vs XII (likely)
Belk vs SEC (likely)
Gator/Music City vs SEC
Pinstripe vs B1G (likely)
And three others
Plus the possibility of a playoff birth. Which becomes even more likely in the possible (inevitable?) playoff expansion down the road.
What I am very interested in when it is all said & done is the final payout & match ups in the Non CFP-Orange Bowl. In the end it truly is all about being one of the 4 schools in the College Football Playoffs.
(05-13-2013 09:31 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2013 08:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like the ACC had to give up something in order to get the Capital One slot when the BIG plays in the OB. Thus you have the shared Gator and Music City Bowl between the ACC and BIG. I also wonder how this will affect the Belk since they wanted an SEC team as well. Does this also mean the Russell will get a Big 12 opponent?
I'll still believe the Capital One Bowl setup when I see it - I'd still wager that it's a strict SEC vs. Big Ten tie-in no matter what, especially if the Russell Athletic Bowl is now locked in with ACC #2. Reading between the lines of the ESPN article, the ACC bowl order changed drastically from what most people thought would be the case from a couple of weeks ago (as they didn't seem to think ACC #2 was going to Orlando). The Capital One Big Ten/ACC rotation would have made a little bit of sense if the Russell Athletic Bowl hadn't moved past the Belk/Music City/Gator combo for ACC #2. Now, it doesn't seem to make sense at all (and I didn't think it made sense in the first place, anyway).
It makes sense for the BIG because with the OB they are too heavy in FL which is something they were trying to get away from. They already play in the Outback, Gator, Capital One bowls in FL. Now they are adding the OB periodically as well. They may want to cap it at 3 Fl bowls in a given year meaning when they play in the OB, they will give up the Cap One slot.
(05-13-2013 09:31 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2013 08:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like the ACC had to give up something in order to get the Capital One slot when the BIG plays in the OB. Thus you have the shared Gator and Music City Bowl between the ACC and BIG. I also wonder how this will affect the Belk since they wanted an SEC team as well. Does this also mean the Russell will get a Big 12 opponent?
I'll still believe the Capital One Bowl setup when I see it - I'd still wager that it's a strict SEC vs. Big Ten tie-in no matter what, especially if the Russell Athletic Bowl is now locked in with ACC #2. Reading between the lines of the ESPN article, the ACC bowl order changed drastically from what most people thought would be the case from a couple of weeks ago (as they didn't seem to think ACC #2 was going to Orlando). The Capital One Big Ten/ACC rotation would have made a little bit of sense if the Russell Athletic Bowl hadn't moved past the Belk/Music City/Gator combo for ACC #2. Now, it doesn't seem to make sense at all (and I didn't think it made sense in the first place, anyway).
It was reported as such last week and now again by the mustache. Deny it all you want, but that's the deal. My guess is that it's a payback to the ACC for taking half of the OB payout in those years.
(05-13-2013 09:37 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2013 09:31 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2013 08:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like the ACC had to give up something in order to get the Capital One slot when the BIG plays in the OB. Thus you have the shared Gator and Music City Bowl between the ACC and BIG. I also wonder how this will affect the Belk since they wanted an SEC team as well. Does this also mean the Russell will get a Big 12 opponent?
I'll still believe the Capital One Bowl setup when I see it - I'd still wager that it's a strict SEC vs. Big Ten tie-in no matter what, especially if the Russell Athletic Bowl is now locked in with ACC #2. Reading between the lines of the ESPN article, the ACC bowl order changed drastically from what most people thought would be the case from a couple of weeks ago (as they didn't seem to think ACC #2 was going to Orlando). The Capital One Big Ten/ACC rotation would have made a little bit of sense if the Russell Athletic Bowl hadn't moved past the Belk/Music City/Gator combo for ACC #2. Now, it doesn't seem to make sense at all (and I didn't think it made sense in the first place, anyway).
It was reported as such last week and now again by the mustache. Deny it all you want, but that's the deal. My guess is that it's a payback to the ACC for taking half of the OB payout in those years.
I'm not denying the initial report - the Mustache just repeated today that such report came out 2 weeks ago (so it's not new) and noted specifically that the ACC lineup totally changed during that time. So, it's my semi-educated opinion that the Cap One will stay B1G vs. SEC. I could be wrong - we'll see.
If the SEC sends as many teams to the playoff host bowls as some people think (up to a theoretical max of 7 teams), I wonder if these bowls who are tying themselves to the SEC will regret it when they start getting Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Missouri and Mississippi State year after year...
(05-13-2013 09:35 PM)Maize Wrote: [ -> ]What I am very interested in when it is all said & done is the final payout & match ups in the Non CFP-Orange Bowl. In the end it truly is all about being one of the 4 schools in the College Football Playoffs.
The payouts of CFP Bowls are one one of the least interesting aspects because they are rarely accurate and reported in all different ways from different bowls.
In the bowl payout it can be anything from straight cash, cash + tickets sold, cash - tickets sold, uneven split depending on what conference is playing ect. Who knows what those numbers really mean.
For the MAC, they have a policy of giving every school 400k that participates in a bowl to cover expenses. That in fact means something every year to MAC bowl teams.