http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/55...acc-future
As The American keeps getting squeezed out, here is some confirmation that not only a return to the Gator was unlikely, but more confirmation that the Pinstripe is not likely to be kept either.
Plus, the ACC will slide into the B1G's slot in the Capital One Bowl when the B1G takes the open Orange Bowl slot.
Nothing much to new to see here... Amazing that the Gator hated the BE because of the weak travel of a number of teams, but they will go to the ACC now that half of the ACC are original BE members.
Of course, what all these bowls are jockeying for is Notre Dame. Mark my words: the same tensions that ND created in the old BE ("They took our bowl slot...") will happen in the ACC. The minute the Gator jumps over an 8-win VaTech or an 8-win Clemson to take a 6 or 7 win Notre Dame crew you'll hear the howls begin.
And ANY of the bowls will take a 6-win Notre Dame over a 7 or even 8 win Boston College, Pittsburgh (may they never get this many wins), Syracuse, Wake Forrest or Duke team.
Seriously... Notre Dame is a cancer for conferences. The bickering will start, Notre Dame will say "We never promised to join you in FB..." there will be calls for Notre Dame to join (which they won't until they're forced), Notre Dame will act like they're above everyone else...because they are by virtue of everyone kissing their butts...and say "We've got a strong ethic of being a FB independent..." and it'll go on and on and on.
As one UC fan, I am so relieved that we're not in the ACC. Really.
(05-02-2013 01:15 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]The American keeps getting squeezed out....
This shouldn't surprise anyone given the spread out nature and attendance figures of the conference. Bowls will be realigned more or less according to the way schools were realigned. SEC/ACC takes from us, we'll take from CUSA, CUSA takes from Slumbelch.
"Take" isn't even the right word really. These bowls are cutting deals with who they want.
This bowl lineup is going to blow big time if the league doesn't keep at least 1 of the Belk, Russell, or Pinstripe. There won't be a single east coast bowl left that doesn't completely suck.
How many damn bowls is the ACC going to have? 12? Every bowl I see they're in the mix
(05-02-2013 01:30 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: [ -> ]As one UC fan, I am so relieved that we're not in the ACC. Really.
OK?
I am ok with the AAC, but if UC had a shot at the ACC, I think the extra $20 + million/year would be worth the occasional hassle of ND possibly taking a bowl bid.
(05-02-2013 02:28 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ]How many damn bowls is the ACC going to have? 12? Every bowl I see they're in the mix
It's looking like nearly all bowls will select from a pool of teams from the 'big 5' conferences. I've said it before - you will see them try to get teams with losing records from those conferences into their games.
I think in the end the American will have the bowls available that will work for the conference. I would say that it's a foregone conclusion that the Pinstripe would end up being a B1G vs ACC affair when you consider that both conferences have more schools centered around NYC than the AAC has.
So what is this league looking at on the east coast if the Pinstripe, Belk, and Russell are gone? Only 2 I can think of are the Beef (terrible pre chirstmas bowl in a bad baseball stadium) and Military (cold weather and in a dump stadium in one of the worst neighborhoods in DC). That's just terrible.
(05-02-2013 02:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]So what is this league looking at on the east coast if the Pinstripe, Belk, and Russell are gone? Only 2 I can think of are the Beef (terrible pre chirstmas bowl in a bad baseball stadium) and Military (cold weather and in a dump stadium in one of the worst neighborhoods in DC). That's just terrible.
We are looking at whatever the BIG, ACC, and SEC does not want, in some form or manner. Maybe we get something in Texas.
Bowls are way over-rated IMO. They're nothing more than a shake down for the fans' money. 90% of them are crap and mean just about nothing. I'm probably in the minority here but I don't plan on attending any bowls unless its for our conference champ tie-in or a possible playoff bid.
(05-02-2013 02:50 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2013 02:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]So what is this league looking at on the east coast if the Pinstripe, Belk, and Russell are gone? Only 2 I can think of are the Beef (terrible pre chirstmas bowl in a bad baseball stadium) and Military (cold weather and in a dump stadium in one of the worst neighborhoods in DC). That's just terrible.
We are looking at whatever the BIG, ACC, and SEC does not want, in some form or manner. Maybe we get something in Texas.
Well I hope we get something in Texas, but I'll never go to whatever bowl we get in Texas so it's pretty useless to me.
I think we need A Bowl in Florida The Russel is crucial with UCF and USF we should be able to put pressure on them, plus keep the Beef even if we have to create one. We need the Liberty, Belk would be great. Pinstripe is not too exciting because of the cold and very expensive for anyone to travel to NYC etc. One in Texas would be ok. Keep Birmingham and tolerate the horrid neighborhood of stadium. It is too good of a location to lose.
This is what I see the AAC bowl slate looking like:
(In no particular order)
Beef O Brady's (St. Pete)
Birmingham
Armed Services (DC)
Military (Houston)
Independence (Shreveport)
With the sixth team going to the playoff...at least one-in-three years...
Maybe add the Pinstripe...
(05-02-2013 04:02 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I see the AAC bowl slate looking like:
(In no particular order)
Beef O Brady's (St. Pete)
Birmingham
Armed Services (DC)
Military (Houston)
Independence (Shreveport)
With the sixth team going to the playoff...at least one-in-three years...
I don't think the Liberty Bowl is a slam dunk like some people do, but I do believe that there is a greater than 50% chance the we'll have a Liberty Bowl tie in.
When does the new bowl line ups start? I know all the contracts are up at the same time. Is it after the '14 or '15 season?
(05-02-2013 01:30 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: [ -> ]As one UC fan, I am so relieved that we're not in the ACC. Really.
Umm ok...enjoy the Beef O'Brady Bowl...at least St. Pete>>Jacksonville.
(05-02-2013 01:15 PM)CommuterBob Wrote: [ -> ]http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/55...acc-future
As The American keeps getting squeezed out, here is some confirmation that not only a return to the Gator was unlikely, but more confirmation that the Pinstripe is not likely to be kept either.
Plus, the ACC will slide into the B1G's slot in the Capital One Bowl when the B1G takes the open Orange Bowl slot.
lol. I was all excited for all of 4 or 5 seconds.... I thought the title said
"Pinstripe, Gator Bowls likely for AAC". We really need to get crackin on this stuff. If we just sit back and wait for the crumbs to fall--nobody is going to be very happy with the results. We need to be innovative and leave no stone unturned---starting our own bowl should be a legitimate option. CUSA has already obtained thier #1 bowl and the MW is busy working towards a Bowl/OOC partnership with Pac-12. Lol...Meanwhile, we are busy touring basketball arenas. Hopefully, theres some multi-tasking going on in Providence.
(05-02-2013 04:02 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I see the AAC bowl slate looking like:
(In no particular order)
Beef O Brady's (St. Pete)
Birmingham
Armed Services (DC)
Military (Houston)
Independence (Shreveport)
With the sixth team going to the playoff...at least one-in-three years...
The Mineke Car Care Bowl is in Houston. The Military Bowl is in Washington DC. The Armed Forces Bowl is in Fort Worth. If the Meineke Car Care Bowl really is part of the Big-12/B1G/SEC/ACC bowl sharing agreement, then we are not getting that one. I was thinking we had a good shot at the Houston based bowl until I heard they could be part of the bowl sharing deal.
I don't understand why anybody thinks we will get better bowls by being aggressive, or asking before a power conference asks. It makes no difference. As someone else said, we'll get whatever the power conferences don't want. All the bowls will take their worst teams over our best ones.