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announced the firing of Tubby Smith. Tubby had a pretty good record there and is a former national championship coach. The AD said "we just thought it would be best to have a new set of eyes on the program". Minnesota beat UCLA in the first round of the tournament, and Ben Howland got fired. Then Minnesota lost in the second game and Tubby got fired. Damn. A guy has a winning record for a number of years, gets to the NCAA tournament, wins a game and gets fired. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?04-cheers
It all goes back to always wanting and striving to be better. Although I thought it was pretty chicken **** to fire Tubby, at least they are trying something else. We go right along for elven years with the coach who hasn't even gotten us in the NCAA tournament. That's been my contention right along. This school doesn't give a **** if this program is good or not. It's all about just selling tickets. It doesn't matter to them whether the tickets are used or not. The good programs make changes when things get stale. This why this program isn't good, with the exception of women's basketball.
With the coach firings, you never know what was happening off the court. Coach may not have gotten along with the AD. AD may have had to "pick up after" the coach too much.
(03-27-2013 02:51 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]announced the firing of Tubby Smith. Tubby had a pretty good record there and is a former national championship coach. The AD said "we just thought it would be best to have a new set of eyes on the program". Minnesota beat UCLA in the first round of the tournament, and Ben Howland got fired. Then Minnesota lost in the second game and Tubby got fired. Damn. A guy has a winning record for a number of years, gets to the NCAA tournament, wins a game and gets fired. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?04-cheers

Did seem strange to me as well. Minnesota has never been Kansas, UNC, or Indiana. Reportedly there were off the court issues at UCLA, may be even NCAA problems. I don't think ethical issues have ever been a concern with Tubby, but he apparently had a number of players leave and do very well elsewhere. I think Vitale has said the "posse" builds strength at most schools by about a coach's 7th season. I think Tubby was there about that long, Howland a little longer. Since Wooden, UCLA coaches are basically hired to be fired, at some point, because they are never going to fully meet expectations. With Tubby there were also rumors that he had pursued other jobs (ex. Auburn, if Barbee gets the can). AD's definitely don't like that very much- I guess this AD wanted to beat him to the punch.
If you look around, there must be a lot of D1 coaches every year who don't get along with their coach. Of course the fact they don't win as many games as the AD and fans think is sufficient or get to the postseason, might have a little to do with getting fired.
(03-27-2013 03:06 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Reportedly there were off the court issues at UCLA, may be even NCAA problems.

UCLA was spinning out of control. The wonder there is that Howland made it as long as he did.
(03-27-2013 03:06 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]I think Vitale has said the "posse" builds strength at most schools by about a coach's 7th season.


I guess posse's are only organized at schools that really give a **** about having good programs. If our fans were like that, we should have one hell of a large posse after ten years. I guess there is one positive to our program. Not much pressure to win here. If we had a good strong winning program here, a coach wouldn't still be here after ten years, with no better showing than Shields has made.
The classic case of a coach having made himself easy to fire was probably Brady at LSU. Final Four, and before years are gone, he is out. No way that was only on-court performance related, unless the AD is an idiot.
(03-27-2013 06:06 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]The classic case of a coach having made himself easy to fire was probably Brady at LSU. Final Four, and before years are gone, he is out. No way that was only on-court performance related, unless the AD is an idiot.

I'll bet that Brady would confirm that.
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