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Glamour Features Lisa's Story: ''Forgiven and Set Free''!

Glamour magazine in its March 2009 issue featured the stories of women who have experienced an abortion. Some of them shared about the emotional trauma they have gone through ever since. Only one of the women featured, Lisa Gaylord, found true healing after she participated in a post-abortion bible study, “Forgiven and Set Free” at a Care Net pregnancy center. She now leads that same bible study at the Hopeline Pregnancy Resource Center, another Care Net center in Danbury, CT. Read Lisa’s full story below…

Lisa’s Story

My first abortion was when I was 19 years old in Westchester, NY. I was living with my boyfriend, and he felt strongly that I should abort when we learned I was pregnant. He had gotten a girl pregnant prior to our relationship, and when she refused to abort, he left her. I knew he would do the same to me, and I was too scared to be a single mother.

My actual abortion experience itself was horrible, as they couldn’t get an IV in due to uncooperative veins. The doctor reminded me that there were other methods, but I insisted on general anesthesia. I wanted as little recollection as possible. I believed I could just go on with my life and forget the whole thing.

After hours of trying to get a good vein (they tried my wrists, arms, hands, legs, and even my neck), nothing worked. I was sent home and told they would bring in a specialist from New York City the following week. I wrestled with the thought that it wasn’t meant to happen, but my fear won out, and I was back. This time it was successful, and I awoke, initially relieved. The nurses were not aware that I was awake, until I saw one of them carrying a glass jar to a room down the hall. I started to realize that the contents were the remains and became very emotional. One of the other nurses rushed her away and tried to calm me down. I left that day a changed woman.

I became very depressed and withdrawn, and cried everyday. I felt empty and dead inside. A couple of close friends reassured me it was the right decision, but the price was that I couldn’t live with myself. I resented my boyfriend and avoided my family, who were Christians, for fear of them ever finding out. I bled for months, but was terrified to get checked out. I thought God was punishing me.

I eventually left my boyfriend, and got back together with my boyfriend from high school. He helped me escape my guilt through drugs. Pretty soon, I was smoking angel dust-laced joints on a daily basis, along with coke, acid, and just about anything I could get my hands on. I found myself pregnant again, exactly a year after my first abortion. We made the decision together to terminate and went back to the same clinic. There were no complications with my veins this time, and I went to the clinic that day high as a kite.

I did not experience any emotional feelings of regret until I got clean. I joined Narcotics Anonymous, started going to church, and married my husband. When I went to my son’s first ultrasound, I was amazed by the whole thing. He looked like a baby and I heard the heartbeat. He was only a week or so older than the two I had aborted. That was very difficult to deal with. I had already asked God to forgive me, but couldn’t forgive myself, because I was raised a Christian and felt I should have known better. I found out about Care Net and the abortion recovery bible study they do for women who regret their decision. I needed closure, so I went through the study and came to a place of acceptance.

I would give anything to go back and make two different choices, but I can’t. I will not live in the past. Instead, I choose to forgive myself and move forward. Today, I lead that same study, showing women the same compassion and understanding I was shown. Some women make the choice to abort, unprepared for the emotional turmoil that often follows. I am so thankful to God for healing me from the pain of abortion and giving me the wonderful life I have now. I am a proud mother of two boys today, and look forward to the day I will see my other two children in heaven.

To find a local post-abortion support group near you or to learn more, call 1-800-395-HELP or visit http://www.optionline.org and click on “After Abortion”.

https://www.care-net.org/custom/glamour-...t-free.php

What would you say to this woman (not to me) about her choice?
This woman was her own worst enemy and she made some really bad decisions. That she regained control of her life is nice ending.
This is what I would have told her after her first abortion.

Honey...I am sorry you went through that experience. I hope know you will make sure you never have to go through that again. Your local Health Department will be glad to assist you with your contraception needs. As I have told my daughter since she was 15...you must protect yourself from your own stupidity.

It still amazes me in a world as technologically advanced as we now have that folks can not figure out how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It is virtually impossible that someone does not know about contraception.

Im glad she got her schit together..but..damn. This all could have been avoided by having just a tiny bit of responsibility.
(03-27-2013 06:41 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I would have told her after her first abortion.

Honey...I am sorry you went through that experience. I hope know you will make sure you never have to go through that again. Your local Health Department will be glad to assist you with your contraception needs. As I have told my daughter since she was 15...you must protect yourself from your own stupidity.

It still amazes me in a world as technologically advanced as we now have that folks can not figure out how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It is virtually impossible that someone does not know about contraception.

Im glad she got her schit together..but..damn. This all could have been avoided by having just a tiny bit of responsibility.

Well...when one side preaches the ineffectual 'abstinence only' program...
(03-28-2013 08:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2013 06:41 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I would have told her after her first abortion.

Honey...I am sorry you went through that experience. I hope know you will make sure you never have to go through that again. Your local Health Department will be glad to assist you with your contraception needs. As I have told my daughter since she was 15...you must protect yourself from your own stupidity.

It still amazes me in a world as technologically advanced as we now have that folks can not figure out how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It is virtually impossible that someone does not know about contraception.

Im glad she got her schit together..but..damn. This all could have been avoided by having just a tiny bit of responsibility.

Well...when one side preaches the ineffectual 'abstinence only' program...

Right Tom, *all* pro lifers are abstinence only education backers...

Wow you you complain when people paitn the left with a broad brush..
(03-28-2013 08:48 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 08:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2013 06:41 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I would have told her after her first abortion.

Honey...I am sorry you went through that experience. I hope know you will make sure you never have to go through that again. Your local Health Department will be glad to assist you with your contraception needs. As I have told my daughter since she was 15...you must protect yourself from your own stupidity.

It still amazes me in a world as technologically advanced as we now have that folks can not figure out how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It is virtually impossible that someone does not know about contraception.

Im glad she got her schit together..but..damn. This all could have been avoided by having just a tiny bit of responsibility.

Well...when one side preaches the ineffectual 'abstinence only' program...

Right Tom, *all* pro lifers are abstinence only education backers...

Wow you you complain when people paitn the left with a broad brush..

Sorry...probably a poor choice of words...I didn't mean to imply they all did. I was thinking mainly of the Catholics that are opposed to birth control.
(03-27-2013 11:40 AM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]This woman was her own worst enemy and she made some really bad decisions. That she regained control of her life is nice ending.

That she didn't mother any children while her life was such a mess also seems a positive.
(03-28-2013 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry...probably a poor choice of words...I didn't mean to imply they all did. I was thinking mainly of the Catholics that are opposed to birth control.

Just FYI: Do you know how most birth control works?

With the exception of "barrier methods" like condoms, most all birth control works by preventing an already fertilized and developing human from implanting in the womb. The cells have already been dividing and differentiating numerous times as they travel down the fallopian tubes towards the womb. Therefore, most birth control methods do so by aborting the child. It's just small so it doesn't count, right Horton?
(03-28-2013 03:25 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry...probably a poor choice of words...I didn't mean to imply they all did. I was thinking mainly of the Catholics that are opposed to birth control.

Just FYI: Do you know how most birth control works?

With the exception of "barrier methods" like condoms, most all birth control works by preventing an already fertilized and developing human from implanting in the womb. The cells have already been dividing and differentiating numerous times as they travel down the fallopian tubes towards the womb. Therefore, most birth control methods do so by aborting the child. It's just small so it doesn't count, right Horton?

O good Lord.

Please tell me you never kill a mosquito, swat a fly, or step on a spider or an ant.

01-wingedeagle
(03-28-2013 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 03:25 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry...probably a poor choice of words...I didn't mean to imply they all did. I was thinking mainly of the Catholics that are opposed to birth control.

Just FYI: Do you know how most birth control works?

With the exception of "barrier methods" like condoms, most all birth control works by preventing an already fertilized and developing human from implanting in the womb. The cells have already been dividing and differentiating numerous times as they travel down the fallopian tubes towards the womb. Therefore, most birth control methods do so by aborting the child. It's just small so it doesn't count, right Horton?

O good Lord.

Please tell me you never kill a mosquito, swat a fly, or step on a spider or an ant.

01-wingedeagle

Don't really want to admit this, but I avoid killing every that I can. Spider gets in the house, catch it and put it outside. Ants are on the sidewalk, I walk around them to avoid needlessly squashing them. Every life is precious to its owner.
(03-28-2013 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Please tell me you never kill a mosquito, swat a fly, or step on a spider or an ant.

I didn't know those bugs were relatives of yours. Most of the rest of us developed from sperm and eggs in our mother's wombs.
01-wingedeagle

From your post, it follows this is your driver's license photo:
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and your cousin perhaps is:
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(03-28-2013 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Please tell me you never kill a mosquito, swat a fly, or step on a spider or an ant.

And the quote is "A PERSON's a PERSON no matter how small"

Not "A Cockroach is a cockroach no matter how small."

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other possible relatives of yours?
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(03-28-2013 03:53 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Please tell me you never kill a mosquito, swat a fly, or step on a spider or an ant.

And the quote is "A PERSON's a PERSON no matter how small"

Not "A Cockroach is a cockroach no matter how small."

[Image: th?id=H.4513457534730242&pid=15.1]

eta: image format

other possible relatives of yours?
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Life is life.

So, you are against the death penalty in all cases then I presume?
Ummm...you know the difference between life and cartoons don't you? 03-wink
(03-28-2013 03:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Life is life.

So, you are against the death penalty in all cases then I presume?

Tom, there are two different issues at play here, the taking of an innocent life, be it human or otherwise, and some evil scumbag forfeiting theirs. Personally, I can't kill a poisonous snake just because its a poisonous snake, that's what it was born to be. But I would feel absolutely no sympathy seeing a guy get fried for murdering an innocent person.
(03-28-2013 03:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]So, you are against the death penalty in all cases then I presume?

There were times in the historical past when certain of the most heinous criminals might have had to be executed in order to ensure the safety of the local populace, since they were not able to be adequately secured. In our current modern society, we are pretty much able to ensure that someone who is sentenced to life without parole can be put away securely, so the need for the death penalty becomes negated.

Now, if we were a small crew on an inter-planetary or inter-stellar spaceship and a situation arose, the option of the death penalty might once again be necessary. So I wouldn't categorically say never, but as you see, the instances would be extremely unusual and rare.

And the question might need to be modified or revisited again when dealing with an alien (non-earthly) life form and culture when we finally encounter one, which I believe we will someday if we don't destroy ourselves first.
(03-28-2013 04:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Ummm...you know the difference between life and cartoons don't you? 03-wink

Yeah, sure. I just want to let you know I'm somewhat reasonable and can still maintain a sense of humor even when dealing with difficult topics. Helps break the tension, right? (and the fly was real, just the little guy's head grafted on in the original 1958 movie, remember?)
(03-28-2013 04:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 03:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Life is life.

So, you are against the death penalty in all cases then I presume?

Tom, there are two different issues at play here, the taking of an innocent life, be it human or otherwise, and some evil scumbag forfeiting theirs. Personally, I can't kill a poisonous snake just because its a poisonous snake, that's what it was born to be. But I would feel absolutely no sympathy seeing a guy get fried for murdering an innocent person.

good way to put that, smn. Goes to the point of the thread which is: What was the innocent child's crime? We know the rapist is at fault. Why must the child pay with their life for the crime of the rapist? Oops, mixed it with the other thread on the rape survivor.

So ok, still- what crime did the child commit? The crime of being conceived? Whose responsible for that? The mother and the father. So why do they get a get out of jail free card for their irresponsibility and the child gets to die through no fault of their own?

Now we're starting to get to the heart of the matter: sex comes with responsibility which is the very thing people have been trying to avoid.

It is the ATTITUDE towards sex that is the problem! And that has NOTHING to do with religion, friend.

Even Atheists should be responsible for their actions, or do you believe otherwise?
(03-28-2013 03:25 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry...probably a poor choice of words...I didn't mean to imply they all did. I was thinking mainly of the Catholics that are opposed to birth control.

Just FYI: Do you know how most birth control works?

With the exception of "barrier methods" like condoms, most all birth control works by preventing an already fertilized and developing human from implanting in the womb. The cells have already been dividing and differentiating numerous times as they travel down the fallopian tubes towards the womb. Therefore, most birth control methods do so by aborting the child. It's just small so it doesn't count, right Horton?

No, "most all birth control" (?) outside of condoms prevents ovulation and egg release.
(03-28-2013 03:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 03:53 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-28-2013 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Please tell me you never kill a mosquito, swat a fly, or step on a spider or an ant.

And the quote is "A PERSON's a PERSON no matter how small"

Not "A Cockroach is a cockroach no matter how small."

[Image: th?id=H.4513457534730242&pid=15.1]

eta: image format

other possible relatives of yours?
[Image: th?id=H.4918077814669678&pid=15.1][Image: th?id=H.4885019434550116&pid=15.1][Image: th?id=H.4712370358452372&pid=15.1][Image: th?id=H.4841386880139927&pid=15.1]

Life is life.

So, you are against the death penalty in all cases then I presume?

False equivalency... Life is not life, we eat animals. All humans have the same rights so once again the conversation should be when does it become *human* life..
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