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stop with the stupid comparisons and false equivalencies?

Lets clear the air with regard to what each of us mean when we make certain comments. Using an extreme to rebut an argument makes us all look stupid.

So, here's a short list of stupid stuff people say after a statement is made they disagree with but have no facts to back up how they believe.


IMATY says: We should cut entitlement spending as part of an approach to a balanced budget.

Lefties say: So, you want kids to starve and old people to be homeless?

Sensible response(IMO): How, specifically, would you reduce entitlement spending without affecting those who need help the most?

IMATY says: I don't like how Obama spends millions on vacations and traveling around the world and I think that money could be better spent in other areas.

Lefties say: BUSH DID IT. You're a hypocrite.

Senesible response(IMO): You're probably right. All Presidents have done it and it could be curbed a little. Lets discuss what you think could be eliminated from the Presidential travel budget and why.


Lefties like to argue with people on here with the misconception that they're arguing with Republicans. More often than not this isn't the case. During the campaign when we would attack Obama lefties immediately attacked Romney. Why? Who knows. Most of us weren't Romney supporters. This is just an example of lefties arguing with someone that exists only in their minds. Its easier that way. Both sides do it. Me included.


I welcome comments from our lefties on what they say that elicits a response that is light years away from their original question.

Its time we get back to sensible discussion. I'm probably more guilty than most on here and I'll make an effort towards to those who also make an effort.
Nah, it's much more fun (and easy) to demagogue an issue than offer a sound defense of one's positions.
Far too many rocks, glass houses, tea kettles and pots around here to make change.
I guess "Hope and Change" really were just meaningless words...
(03-04-2013 11:24 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: [ -> ]I guess "Hope and Change" really were just meaningless words...
So is sensible, when talking about politics...
(03-04-2013 11:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-04-2013 11:24 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote: [ -> ]I guess "Hope and Change" really were just meaningless words...
So is sensible, when talking about politics...

Tru Dat

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.
Thought things were pretty mild. Haven't seen a posting where anyone wanted a new government in at least five minutes. Someone actually complimented President Obama the other day.
Far too many Spinners are concerned about being 100% correct, and showing that that other person is not only 100% wrong, but also stupid, uneducated, Socialist or Racist, and probably fat and ugly as well.

I hereby suggest that at minimum, AT VERY MINIMUM, we stop calling each other names.

And each and every one of us is very much aware of which posters, on each side of the spectrum, are on ignore lists for a lot of posters. I more humbly suggest that people do not quote those posters or engage them in honest conversation, on the hope that those posters sooner rather than later just decide that the Spin Room is a waste of their time and they move on to MoveOn or go spout hot air at Hot Air.
(03-04-2013 11:49 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone actually complimented President Obama the other day.

Musta been a typo.
So in the reverse, when a lefty says they want a social safety net so that everyone has health insurance, don't say we're giving all the black people free insurance so they don't have to work ever?
How about we all give each other the same love we afford ourselves? That would solve a lot of problems, and a good deal of mine.
I appreciate the sentiment. Read the thread about about the MRAP armored personnel carriers being reassigned. How conservatives will have to paint a star now on their house. It's a damn shame what the Conservative party has been reduced to.

Rebel

(03-05-2013 06:16 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]I appreciate the sentiment. Read the thread about about the MRAP armored personnel carriers being reassigned. How conservatives will have to paint a star now on their house. It's a damn shame what the Conservative party has been reduced to.

And you've yet to come up with a sensible answer as to why the D.H.S. needs everything they've purchased. We're STILL waiting on one of you fools to explain that.
(03-04-2013 11:29 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ]So in the reverse, when a lefty says they want a social safety net so that everyone has health insurance, don't say we're giving all the black people free insurance so they don't have to work ever?

You can show us where this happened?
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