"Cincinnati also has three non-conference games set for 2015. After opening against Alabama A&M, the Bearcats travel to face rival Miami (OH) on Sept. 19 and then BYU on Oct. 24.
Previously scheduled games in 2015 at home against Air Force (Sept. 12) and at Miami, FL (Oct. 3) have or are in the process of being cancelled, according to UC athletics. This also includes a game at Air Force on Sept. 2, 2017."
http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/02/cinci...schedules/
I understand we need more home games if the BE goes to 9 games, but this stinks.
I am against playing FCS team but I don't see dropping the Air Force series or the road game at Miami as bad things. The Big East isn't moving to nine conference games so my guess is that UC needs to make room for the Louisville game if want to continue the series. Hopefully the home game against Stony Brook is replaced by a road game at Louisville.
I doubt they are cancelling games due to the potential BE scheduling. Hopefully it is due to something much better than that.
We've had this Alabama A&M game on the books for a while now. We backed out of the AFA game last year and I remember a lot of people speculated at the time it was a sign they were joining the BE in the future. The Miami game I believe was canceled on their end.
Since we were supposed to go to Coral Gables for the U, I have no problem with the cancellation of that one. Tubs, Gran and company already will have plenty of Florida trips on the docket with the UCF/USF games.
If one is a conspiracy theorist, maybe the cancellation of Miami is a sign of conference movement for UC. That is, a conference that would include the Canes as an opponent.
I may be asleep. Since when did the BE decide to go to 9 league games?
(02-08-2013 03:31 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote: [ -> ]Since we were supposed to go to Coral Gables for the U, I have no problem with the cancellation of that one. Tubs, Gran and company already will have plenty of Florida trips on the docket with the UCF/USF games.
If one is a conspiracy theorist, maybe the cancellation of Miami is a sign of conference movement for UC. That is, a conference that would include the Canes as an opponent.
Did any other schools cancel or reschedule games prior to a move?
Your explanation of a conference change pending is plausible in that I don't think UC would've given up a game against a Power 5 conference team unless they had a good reason to do so.
It is clear that UC must increase there out of conference schedule not water it down. Droping Miami of Florida is a bad idea. In fact Mike Aresco even stated that Big East teams must enhance there Out of conference games. If you want to contend for BCS bowls it is a must. The 2015 schedule will be the second year of the new playoff format. If Whit thinks that playing Alabama A & M gets him close to being considered he is sadly mistaken. UC's conference schedule will be weak enough and will not need to be made weaker with games against teams like Alabama A & M or Miami of Ohio. Scheduling other BCS teams is the only way to make a statement and get a shot at the playoffs.[/i]
Hey I'm a big believer UC will have a new conference invite before the end of 2013 but I'm not reading that much into these changes. Until that's done, these moves just wouldn't be made.
Future contracts get moved all the time in college football. Who's to say which party initiated it or if it's intended to clear the decks for a TV matchup or an attractive regional rivalry for UC.
The other thing I wonder is, was it Miami that canceled due to the probation implications?
(02-08-2013 04:02 PM)kyucat Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear that UC must increase there out of conference schedule not water it down. Droping Miami of Florida is a bad idea. In fact Mike Aresco even stated that Big East teams must enhance there Out of conference games. If you want to contend for BCS bowls it is a must. The 2015 schedule will be the second year of the new playoff format. If Whit thinks that playing Alabama A & M gets him close to being considered he is sadly mistaken. UC's conference schedule will be weak enough and will not need to be made weaker with games against teams like Alabama A & M or Miami of Ohio. Scheduling other BCS teams is the only way to make a statement and get a shot at the playoffs.[/i]
Agree that Alabama A&M does nothing for UC; however, they Cats had too many road games on the schedule that season and zero home game. I keep hoping that UC will continue to play Louisville.
If you add Louisville to the schedule....
2014
Toledo
Miami
@Ohio State
@Louisville
2015
Louisville
Alabama A&M
@Miami
@BYU
2016
@Louisville
@Purdue
Miami
BYU
2017
Louisville
@Miami
2018
@Louisville
@Ohio State
Miami
Ohio
.... A long term non-conference relationship with Louisville is a must as long as Cincinnati is playing in the Big East. Adding the Cardinals would give each season a mix of local rivalry games with a mix of name opponents. For the most part those schedules will be good enough to compete for the GO5 bid and the playoff.
I will believe those Ohio State games when I see them.
(02-08-2013 04:36 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]I will believe those Ohio State games when I see them.
I'm betting they will find some "conflict" that forces them to cancel or postpone and then they'll backfill with a home game against Missouri State.
While I'd like to see the Louisville football series continue, unless we land in the ACC I'm betting it's history. They are already locked in to an annual game with UK; just don't know if they will see a compelling reason to play UC on an every year basis. My guess is it would be more likely to see basketball continue in some form given the relationship between Cronin and Pitino.
(02-08-2013 05:05 PM)indycat Wrote: [ -> ]While I'd like to see the Louisville football series continue, unless we land in the ACC I'm betting it's history. They are already locked in to an annual game with UK; just don't know if they will see a compelling reason to play UC on an every year basis. My guess is it would be more likely to see basketball continue in some form given the relationship between Cronin and Pitino.
Compelling reason as in locking up a solid non-conf game. Would make their non-conf scheduling alot easier and good for their strength of schedule.
(02-08-2013 05:27 PM)bearcatmill Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2013 05:05 PM)indycat Wrote: [ -> ]While I'd like to see the Louisville football series continue, unless we land in the ACC I'm betting it's history. They are already locked in to an annual game with UK; just don't know if they will see a compelling reason to play UC on an every year basis. My guess is it would be more likely to see basketball continue in some form given the relationship between Cronin and Pitino.
Compelling reason as in locking up a solid non-conf game. Would make their non-conf scheduling alot easier and good for their strength of schedule.
It is an easy away game for UofL fans, especially if it is played at PBS. I think Jurich has already said they want to continue the series with UC. But we need the series to continue as equals, not as UC "playing up" to an ACC opponent. UC needs to be in the ACC ASAP.
(02-08-2013 04:36 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]I will believe those Ohio State games when I see them.
Unless it looks like they'll be great and we look bad, otherwise I agree, it won't happen.
Would have been nice for MB to make them agree to playing a game in Cincy for the opportunity to play their damn sping game in Cincy.
(02-08-2013 05:34 PM)vabearcat Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2013 05:27 PM)bearcatmill Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2013 05:05 PM)indycat Wrote: [ -> ]While I'd like to see the Louisville football series continue, unless we land in the ACC I'm betting it's history. They are already locked in to an annual game with UK; just don't know if they will see a compelling reason to play UC on an every year basis. My guess is it would be more likely to see basketball continue in some form given the relationship between Cronin and Pitino.
Compelling reason as in locking up a solid non-conf game. Would make their non-conf scheduling alot easier and good for their strength of schedule.
It is an easy away game for UofL fans, especially if it is played at PBS. I think Jurich has already said they want to continue the series with UC. But we need the series to continue as equals, not as UC "playing up" to an ACC opponent. UC needs to be in the ACC ASAP.
UC wont play UofL at PBS but continuing the series would be good. Although over time if UC doesn't get a conference upgrade I would be concerned it could turn lopsided like the Victory Bell has for Miami since UC moved to the BE.
(02-08-2013 06:47 PM)BeerCat Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2013 04:36 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]I will believe those Ohio State games when I see them.
Unless it looks like they'll be great and we look bad, otherwise I agree, it won't happen.
Would have been nice for MB to make them agree to playing a game in Cincy for the opportunity to play their damn sping game in Cincy.
It is not Mike Brown's job to schedule for UC. If UC and OSU are to play I am sure that both AD's have each others number.
(02-08-2013 08:50 PM)Bearcat Otto Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2013 06:47 PM)BeerCat Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2013 04:36 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: [ -> ]I will believe those Ohio State games when I see them.
Unless it looks like they'll be great and we look bad, otherwise I agree, it won't happen.
Would have been nice for MB to make them agree to playing a game in Cincy for the opportunity to play their damn sping game in Cincy.
It is not Mike Brown's job to schedule for UC. If UC and OSU are to play I am sure that both AD's have each others number.
Right, but OSU playing a real game there would for sure sell out and Mikey would make a pretty penny. Missed opportunity for all involved.