01-30-2013, 08:36 AM
01-30-2013, 10:46 AM
Well all the ruling did was reject the NCAA's motion to dismiss the case. Still haven't won a ruling that will allow them to receive money from TV revenue.
Some former players and greedy lawyers are seeking millions and in search of a short term gain, they are probably kill sports at many smaller schools. There are few college programs that are money makers. The rest of the schools use the revenues generated from football (money games) and tv revenue to fund non revenue sports (mostly women) and keep compliant with Title IX.
So, how does that revenue get split? If you played in a televised game, do you get a share? What about the guy who rides the pine? If you screw up and cost the team the game, can you have your share cut? If they are paid from TV revenue, can a school deduct money for room and board? Isn't that a form of revenue for a player?
Instead of doing something meaningful, some former players and class action lawyers and trying to kill things for future players. Instead of seeking some real reform, they want to chase $.
Players want compensation? Players want protection? Well, here are a few things that can be done:
1. Make all scholarships 4 years. No more of this 1 year renewable crap. Unless a player flunks out or is kicked off for discipline/violation of rules, then the school must honor the scholarship. That will clean up some of the recruiting as well.
2. Schools take a portion of the money generated and invest in a 401K for each player (same amount for everyone). That reverts over to the player once they graduate. It is contingent on them graduating. If they don't then that money goes back to the university.
3. Once a player has left a school (graduated/pros) then the university must pay him for and likeness/jersey/other merch sale. That would be fair.
Some former players and greedy lawyers are seeking millions and in search of a short term gain, they are probably kill sports at many smaller schools. There are few college programs that are money makers. The rest of the schools use the revenues generated from football (money games) and tv revenue to fund non revenue sports (mostly women) and keep compliant with Title IX.
So, how does that revenue get split? If you played in a televised game, do you get a share? What about the guy who rides the pine? If you screw up and cost the team the game, can you have your share cut? If they are paid from TV revenue, can a school deduct money for room and board? Isn't that a form of revenue for a player?
Instead of doing something meaningful, some former players and class action lawyers and trying to kill things for future players. Instead of seeking some real reform, they want to chase $.
Players want compensation? Players want protection? Well, here are a few things that can be done:
1. Make all scholarships 4 years. No more of this 1 year renewable crap. Unless a player flunks out or is kicked off for discipline/violation of rules, then the school must honor the scholarship. That will clean up some of the recruiting as well.
2. Schools take a portion of the money generated and invest in a 401K for each player (same amount for everyone). That reverts over to the player once they graduate. It is contingent on them graduating. If they don't then that money goes back to the university.
3. Once a player has left a school (graduated/pros) then the university must pay him for and likeness/jersey/other merch sale. That would be fair.
01-30-2013, 11:02 AM
To me, this would usher the split of the FBS. This would put huge disadvantage to the Group of Five schools because of the gap in TV money.
Lets say a player has a scholarship offer from Virginia and Western Kentucky, the player will probably choose Virginia due to recieving higher compensation/benefits or the potential to recieve higher compensation/benefits from the ACC TV contract. Where as before, he might have chosen Western Kentucky because he liked the school/coaching staff.
Lets say a player has a scholarship offer from Virginia and Western Kentucky, the player will probably choose Virginia due to recieving higher compensation/benefits or the potential to recieve higher compensation/benefits from the ACC TV contract. Where as before, he might have chosen Western Kentucky because he liked the school/coaching staff.
01-30-2013, 11:47 AM
(01-30-2013 10:46 AM)InjunJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Well all the ruling did was reject the NCAA's motion to dismiss the case. Still haven't won a ruling that will allow them to receive money from TV revenue.
Some former players and greedy lawyers are seeking millions and in search of a short term gain, they are probably kill sports at many smaller schools. There are few college programs that are money makers. The rest of the schools use the revenues generated from football (money games) and tv revenue to fund non revenue sports (mostly women) and keep compliant with Title IX.
So, how does that revenue get split? If you played in a televised game, do you get a share? What about the guy who rides the pine? If you screw up and cost the team the game, can you have your share cut? If they are paid from TV revenue, can a school deduct money for room and board? Isn't that a form of revenue for a player?
Instead of doing something meaningful, some former players and class action lawyers and trying to kill things for future players. Instead of seeking some real reform, they want to chase $.
Players want compensation? Players want protection? Well, here are a few things that can be done:
1. Make all scholarships 4 years. No more of this 1 year renewable crap. Unless a player flunks out or is kicked off for discipline/violation of rules, then the school must honor the scholarship. That will clean up some of the recruiting as well.
2. Schools take a portion of the money generated and invest in a 401K for each player (same amount for everyone). That reverts over to the player once they graduate. It is contingent on them graduating. If they don't then that money goes back to the university.
3. Once a player has left a school (graduated/pros) then the university must pay him for and likeness/jersey/other merch sale. That would be fair.
Why stop at room & board? The university lets them attend for free (no tuition costs), which is another form of revenue. Taken further, I wonder then if the universities would argue that the professional services the players receive (coaching/consulting/tutors/travel to and from games) could be construed as revenue streams as well.
01-30-2013, 11:58 AM
Since they were getting paid to play, should they be assessed taxes for those years of education? :-)
01-30-2013, 08:39 PM
(01-30-2013 11:58 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: [ -> ]Since they were getting paid to play, should they be assessed taxes for those years of education? :-)
I say that's a given! Income is income, right?
01-31-2013, 12:55 AM
The dumbing down of America.
I hope APR is somehow attached to this.
Why study much when u can make more money playing ball ? (that may very well be the mindset if it isn't already)
I hope APR is somehow attached to this.
Why study much when u can make more money playing ball ? (that may very well be the mindset if it isn't already)
01-31-2013, 09:06 AM
This is going to be a hard case to win for the plantiffs.
For one thing, universities are non-profits, that is, there may be revenue but there is no profit to distribute.
Secondly, as stated above, these student athletes, for the most part are given full rides; how would these dollars factor into the equation.
Thirdly, how do you value a particular players time on the television; what about the non-stars of the team? the punter, the special teams player, etc.
Fourthly, what about basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, etc. that get on the tube at some point in the season...good luck valuing those.
Stipends are the way to go and it's fair for all and their already doing this. Being successful in your chosen sport should be its own reward.
For one thing, universities are non-profits, that is, there may be revenue but there is no profit to distribute.
Secondly, as stated above, these student athletes, for the most part are given full rides; how would these dollars factor into the equation.
Thirdly, how do you value a particular players time on the television; what about the non-stars of the team? the punter, the special teams player, etc.
Fourthly, what about basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, etc. that get on the tube at some point in the season...good luck valuing those.
Stipends are the way to go and it's fair for all and their already doing this. Being successful in your chosen sport should be its own reward.